The Orlando Magic Are Stacked

[G-Nob]

Gortat is going to the Rockets. Foregone conclusion.

[Red Hawk #21]

if they were willing to spend so much why didnt they just pay turk o glue instead of bass, gortat.

Because their management are morons.

[Spursfan092120]

For you it all rests on "The Lethal One" Manu. Him & Pop drive that franchise to it's heights. If Manu comes back compromised & pedestrian you can't get there. He must come back whole.

I agree with that 100%...Manu has to be healthy...unless RJ does his 20+ point average...even then, we need a more healthy than normal Manu.

[Soul]

RAFER?

Are you kidding me?

LOL!!

There is no gurantee we'll even make it back to the ECF, but most Magic fans including myself are happy about the roster (Besides from trading Lee)... we still need to round it out with maybe one more MLE/vet signing. Some people are just straight hating and bringing up bit pieces we've lost.. but YOU LOST BATTIE AND ALSTON!11.

[HeyIt'sMe]

The West will come down to the Lakers and Spurs. Expect it to be a much tougher series than the last time we met.

The East on the other hand could be extremely exciting. Boston will come in as the favorite. The Cavs just added a load of muscle with Shaq, and a much better shooter in Parker.

This guy claims the Magic got better, but miserably failed at mentioning Rafer not being there. Bass and Gortat will not cut it against the likes of Sheed and KG. Shaq will make Howard look small, weak, and very amateurish.

Carter will continue his career of not having the heart to step up against equal talent. Infact, thats what they lost most when they let Hedo go. He was the heart of that team, and thats something Carter will never have.

Shaq has never embarrassed Howard. Stop making stuff up. He still can't guard the pick and roll and Howard is still 100 times more athletic and agile at this point in their careers. The Magic will milk that play to death while playing the Cavs, and Mike Brown will be too dumb to counteract it.

[sook]

Turk and Lee for Carter is a lateral move.

I agree.

Stupid ing team even though i hated turkgolu anyways

[Culburn369]

Shaq has never embarrassed Howard. Stop making stuff up. He still can't guard the pick and roll and Howard is still 100 times more athletic and agile at this point in their careers. The Magic will milk that play to death while playing the Cavs, and Mike Brown will be too dumb to counteract it.

...& ESPN/Media will be complicite by refusing to castigate Daddy for his chronic inability to guard it.

Hey, with the goods.

[HeyIt'sMe]

Ahem...

Of course it happens in an All-Star game of all places. I'm talking one-on-one in games that actually matter. Shaq has done an adequate job in the past stopping Howard, but he sure as doesn't shut him down or dominate him.

I'm telling you, Mike Brown is a complete imbecile and won't adjust to anything Orlando does. SVG will run pick and rolls all game and Shaq will be befuddled as to what to do, much like he has been his entire career in defending that play.

[Cry Havoc]

Good to see Orlando fans joining Spurstalk.

Shaq is nearly worthless on D these days.

[angelbelow]

If they kept Turk I think the season would be over. Just give them all rings.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Shaq is nearly worthless on D these days.

At pick and roll D, his post D is still good, some Spurs fans like you just search for reasons to hate Shaq.

[LnGrrrR]

Ahem...

That's pretty f'ing embarassing.

[peskypesky]

I think the Magic got worse, not better.

[Dunc n Dave]

At pick and roll D, his post D is still good, some Spurs fans like you just search for reasons to hate Shaq.

I agree, Shaq is still one of the best post defenders. He gave Duncan problems even when he was with Phoenix. He gives Cleveland someone that can play Howard straight up without having to double and leave shooters open.

Howard has nowhere NEAR the post moves that Duncan has, and Shaq's muscle (or fat) will make it hard for Howard to get to the rim for dunks.

[HeyIt'sMe]

The Spurs use to kill us with the pick and roll when Shaq was young. You fail to realize that its a two way street. Howard cant guard Shaq on the block, Shaq can guard Howard.

I never said it wasn't.

[jag]

The Spurs use to kill us with the pick and roll when Shaq was young. You fail to realize that its a two way street. Howard cant guard Shaq on the block, Shaq can guard Howard.

Howard has a laughable post game. His offense consists of elevating, catching lobs and putting back rebounds.

[ginobili's bald spot]

I think the Magic got worse, not better.

I agree. Lee and Turk for carter is a downgrade IMO.

[HeyIt'sMe]

Howard has a laughable post game. His offense consists of elevating, catching lobs and putting back rebounds.

Yet, he somehow managed to post two 40 point games last season and a myriad of 30 point games. What's laughable is how people think Howard has no offensive game.

It's also funny how overrated Turkoglu and Lee are starting to become, but that's a story for another time.

[KidCongo]

At least Howard will have to guard someone now. Probably foul out within 25 minutes. All he does is hack.

[jag]

Yet, he somehow managed to post two 40 point games last season and a myriad of 30 point games. What's laughable is how people think Howard has no offensive game.

Shooting 15+ free throws and getting 15pts worth of putbacks does not conflict with the belief that he has a laughable post game.

If someone will put a body on him and box him out (shaq), then his post game is painful to watch.

Stop being such a sensitive homer.

[jag]

Here are some games with Howard against teams with solid Bigs. The first one was with him and Shaq head to head. Like the other poster said, Howards post moves are very limited. He didnt look good against Boston either.

reference me better, ho

[KidCongo]

Shaq had a pretty firm msg to the media at his press coference. Something like 'we won't be doubling anyone'. He had the fire in his eyes.

[HeyIt'sMe]

Shooting 15+ free throws and getting 15pts worth of putbacks does not conflict with the belief that he has a laughable post game.

If someone will put a body on him and box him out (shaq), then his post game is painful to watch.

Stop being such a sensitive homer.

Howard scored 21 points on Shaq in less than 30 minutes. Man, he struggled.

Stop exaggerating on stuff.

[HeyIt'sMe]

Here are some games with Howard against teams with solid Bigs. The first one was with him and Shaq head to head. Like Jag said, "Howard has a laughable post game. His offense consists of elevating, catching lobs and putting back rebounds."


http://www.nba.com/games/20090303/PHXORL/boxscore.html

http://www.nba.com/games/20081122/HOUORL/boxscore.html

http://www.nba.com/games/20081201/ORLBOS/boxscore.html

http://www.nba.com/games/20081114/ORLDAL/boxscore.html

http://www.nba.com/games/20081116/ORLCHA/boxscore.html

http://www.nba.com/games/20081218/SASORL/boxscore.html

http://www.nba.com/games/20090122/BOSORL/boxscore.html

http://www.nba.com/games/20090317/ORLCLE/boxscore.html

lol, eight games the entire season. Every post player has bad games throughout an 82 game season. Why didn't you post the boxscore to the other San Antonio game, the one where Howard wasn't coming off of two missed games and a missed second half? Also funny is showing a Cleveland game in which he got no touches. As we saw in the playoffs, he had no trouble abusing the Cavs' front line.

This belief that Howard has no post game is asinine and needs to stop. What a shock, better defense slows down his stats. Amazing concept.

[KidCongo]

He has two moves that are very suspect on the block. His touch around the rim is shaky, which is why he never takes many shots.

That spin move that ends up with a dunk and that ugly running hook.