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I would be all for it, but the Thunder would never give up Sefolosha he has immense potential and he showed flashes for them last year.
What do think of this trade idea?
Michael Finley+Ian Mahinmi for Thabo Sefolosha
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
Why would OKC do it?
Sam Presti is the brain child behind Mahinmi and would have a vested interest in adding him to the team. Finley gives them some veteran swagger and replaces Sefolosha on the wing.
Why would the Spurs do it?
The Spurs are still searching for another wing player, especially one with defensive skills. They've been a fan of Sefolosha's for a while and would obviously love to have him. Ian Mahinmi would only be our 4th best big at best this season (and even that is not guaranteed) and by trading him they free up room to snag another player with the LLE (Rasho? Shelden Williams? Gooden?). This likely makes the Spurs a more complete team in the end.
I would be all for it, but the Thunder would never give up Sefolosha he has immense potential and he showed flashes for them last year.
I'd be fine including a future 2nd to sweeten the pot. But I'm not sure even a 1st means much to the Thunder at this point. They're loaded with young talent already and more draft picks just gets a bit redundant.
Thunder wouldn't do it.
Why would you trade a young big with loads of potential whos only 22?
So you can acquire a young swingman with loads of potential whos only 24 and fills an immediate need and has already proven he belongs on this level.
Even when the one thing we need is size in the paint?
If this offseason had gone down exactly the same except we acquired Thabo Sefolosha instead of Richard Jefferson we'd still probably be just as giddy as we are now. Imagine if we got both. Our wings would be the absolute best in the NBA bar none.
To acquire a talent like that you have to give up something of value. Mahinmi could very well be a great player for a long time...but I'm not sure what he can give us in the next 24 months. At this point we're all in trying to win over the next 2 or 3 years. I think Sefolosha gives you a better chance to win in the next 2 years than Mahinmi.
Thats not a condemnation of Mahinmi...thats just probably the truth. Ian has shown that he has tremendous potential. I'm just not sure if he'll realize it too late for it to matter in our championship hopes.
There's still a decent chance Mahinmi is better than Sefolosha.
I think we should keep Ian sometime into the regular season at least, it is harder to find a guy 6'11 or 7 foot with real potential than to do the same at the wing position
i will not give up Mahinmi for that
And give up on a young big, with loads of potential who's only 22, and fills an immediate need? Please! While Ian in still unproven commodity and we all know his unfortunate injury history the past 2 seasons, but he's shown amazing promise this summer. Enough promise that makes the thought of trading him away an incomprehensible one.
I like Sefolosha too, but I'd argue that Ian's upside is greater than his. Given those aspects and the fact that the Spurs would be left short on the frontline - again - this trade proposal makes absolutely no sense at all.
NO ONE yet knows what we have in Ian, so it would be stupid to give up on him this early. For those that are so ready to jettison Ian, if the Spurs ever elect NOT to pick up his option, watch how fast he'd get snapped practically every other team in the NBA. In case anyone has forgotten, young, talented bigs are in short supply in this league. Swingmen are so much easier to come by.
Bruno,
Yes, and? Ian is definitely a question mark. Hes hardly a sure thing. I stand by what I've said and I'm not changing my position. Whats your point?
So Sefolosha is just as good as RJ? Methinks you just killed your argument.
Thats not what I said at all. My point is that we've been searching for a SF forever. Getting either of Sefolosha or Jefferson was bound to excite.
So you think that Mahinmi is a scrub and you want to trade him for something good ?
It surely makes tons of sense.
And the reason why you want to trade Mahinmi isn't a logjam at PF/C, it's because you don't like him.
OK. You're right in that the Spurs HAVE been searching for a SF forever. However, your logic ends right there. if you think acquiring Sefalosha would generate the same excitement as acquiring RJ, you're way off base. o! RJ is THE better player. Therefore, MORE excitement for getting him.
Still, I don't understand why you're such a proponent of getting rid of a young, big with loads of potential, who is just starting to show promise as a contributor to your rotation. That makes no sense. You're acting as though young bigs grow on trees and the Spurs can simply pluck one out of the air next season or thereafter.
If you haven't watched any SL games, you should. Especially the last 2 games. Perhaps you'd change your tune.
Mahinmi fills an immediate need.
So you think Mason, Ginobili, Jefferson, Hairston and potentially Bruce Bowen isn't enough, you need more?!?
With what minutes?
I don't think Sefalosha plays ahead of Jefferson, Mason, nor Ginobili.
So again, this trade makes no sense.
Doesn't Oklahoma City already have a Mahinmi of their own in Ibaka? Why would they be interested in ours?
Furthermore, Sefalosha got little to no time in the playoffs.
Ian WILL be a rotation big for the Spurs next season.
And Finley.
Finley should be useful in a limited role next year (if Spurs don't trade him).
Another good point. In fact, they seem to be taking the same developmental approach with Ibaka, that the Spurs took with Ian.
Also, anybody get a look at Ibaka the other night? Led the Thunder in rebs and produced a double-double. Not too shabby.
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