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    It was simply a trade idea. Nothing more.

    But I'm getting tired of people putting words in my mouth. Take the idea for what it is...an idea. If you think it's then fine. If you like it then fine. I was simply voicing an idea that came to me.

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    Any of the suggested trades would be too premature right now. Spurs FO would be wise to wait it out and see if Mahimni/ Blair/ Haislip sink or swim even at the expense of some of the Red Rockets PT.

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    why would you trade a young big with loads of potential whos only 22?
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    i know this is just a trade idea.....but NO! Ian is a big who is still young and has potential which he has not had much of a chance to show....no way bigs are hard as to find

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    I can never understand all the hate on Ian. He has done everything that the Spurs have asked of him & he has never questioned them. He got hurt. MRI's, xrays, catscans, none of them picked up the floating bone fragment. How is that Ian's fault? Let the kid play at least full season on the Spurs before making judgment on whether he is a "bust" or not.

    As for the trade idea. I like Thabo. I think he would be a good fit here. You never really trade a big for a small unless, you are getting the best player in the deal. At this point, I dont know how anyone can say Thabo is better than Ian, or vice versa. They dont play the same position, you cant teach heigth, big men are definitly harder to come by than swingman. We now have RJ, so unless they would give Thabo up for Fin & a future pick, I think it would be idiotic to trade potential for potential. Ian has a higher ceiling than Thabo, no pun intended.

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    I think Sefolosha is a pretty good player, and I agree that sometimes it's wise to trade potential to fill an immediate need. However, given where the Spurs typically draft, I think having a young center with real potential is too valuable to give up. An athletic 5 is a much more difficult position to find than a defensive 3.

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    It seems that for many people, Mahinmi has risen in the last week from an always-injured underachieving Big back up to a beloved untouchable prospect. James Gist has dropped from the mythic heights of best summer league player '08 and inspiration for long laudatory threads down to a guy who ain't gonna cut it in the USA.

    It'd be funny if Marcus Williams turns out to be better than either one of them.

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    It seems that for many people, Mahinmi has risen in the last week from an always-injured underachieving Big back up to a beloved untouchable prospect. James Gist has dropped from the mythic heights of best summer league player '08 and inspiration for long laudatory threads down to a guy who ain't gonna cut it in the USA.

    It'd be funny if Marcus Williams turns out to be better than either one of them.

    No kidding. You'd think I said to trade Duncan.

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    Ian will get limited chances this year to prove himself. If he proves himself like we know Blair will, then He could possilby crack the rotation...(long shot).

    As far as the team is concerned, I like the amoount of vets and youngsters. All the best spurs teams had a nice combination of vets and athletes.

    Vets like Fin and Dice will be important for the team to lean on.

    I kinda think our Team is fine as it is. Give up the Trades already ,,,with out a major injury, the Spurs are set.

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    No kidding. You'd think I said to trade Duncan.
    internet sports forum junkies are very sensitive people... you don't want to upset their delicate fickle balance.

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    I'd love to see how hairston does playing some decent minutes at the SF spot, so no.

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    Holy , this thread turned into the Inquisition v 2.0... burn Darkwaters, burn!

    Seriously, if there's a reason why I wouldn't jump at this trade, it's because after events unfolded in the past few months, I think at the moment the Spurs need a bigman more than they need a swingman, and Oklahoma needs a seasoned guard more than they need a raw bigman, so likely neither would pull the trigger. But other than that, this isn't half bad an idea.

    We all know the Spurs window of opportunity is closing. And since it isn't Christmas every day, to get something we'd likely have to part with something of value, namely the rights to Splitter, Gist, or Mahinmi himself. GMs love youth and potential, and those they have.

    And considering Ian may live up to his promise, or he may not, and even if he does, he may not do so within the next 2/3 years (which is where the Spurs should commit all their resources), if a trade came through that would favour the Spurs in the short term, then you have to do it... even if we end up losing in the long term.

    So call me crazy, but I don't think pondering a trade of one of the young prospects on Spurs cons utes any kind of heresy, it's simply the reflection of what our needs are and how to get there, nothing more, nothing less...

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    internet sports forum junkies are very sensitive people... you don't want to upset their delicate fickle balance.
    Or the trade proposed makes no sense at the moment. Either or.

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    The Spurs are still searching for another wing player, especially one with defensive skills.
    Are they?

    Or is SpursTalk searching for one?

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    Are they?

    Or is SpursTalk searching for one?
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    (3)Thunder traded a 1st round pick for Thabo not even a year ago knowing his contract is up in two years. Thunder would not trade Thabo for an unproven commodity in Mahimni right now ( even though he was Presti's pick. At the same time, Spurs don't have the minutes for Thabo and are thin at the C/ PF position. Those two scenarios don't match up.
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    Besides...any trade that does not include unloading Bonner is not worth discussing.

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    Very true... but how would spurstalk have reacted two weeks ago to a thread suggesting Marcus Williams is a better prospect than James Gist, which now seems to be the case?

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    [/thread]

    Besides...any trade that does not include unloading Bonner is not worth discussing.
    Why? Bonner had one of the best 3 point shooting percentages in the entire league last year. His weakness lay in the fact that he was asked to do too much last season. If you make him the 4th big then hes pretty stellar actually.

    Plus hes relatively cheap and expiring.

    Why the Bonner hate? He'll be gone in 12 months if nothing else if not before the deadline.

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    Are they?

    Or is SpursTalk searching for one?
    SpursTalk of course. Nobody ever really knows what the Spurs are doing which is why speculative threads like this thrive so much in this forum. Thats the fun in being a Spurs fan!

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    Why? Bonner had one of the best 3 point shooting percentages in the entire league last year. His weakness lay in the fact that he was asked to do too much last season. If you make him the 4th big then hes pretty stellar actually.

    Plus hes relatively cheap and expiring.

    Why the Bonner hate? He'll be gone in 12 months if nothing else if not before the deadline.
    We agree he has some value then.

    The Spurs are seemingly moving towards more athletic players off the bench. As MB said, they are beginning to look past the Duncan era and into the Parker era with the players they are acquiring. Bonner just doesn't seem to fit anymore.

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    Are they?

    Or is SpursTalk searching for one?
    Timvp said the exact same thing about the spurs looking for another defensive minded wing a week ago. But he's infallible on spurstalk, so nobody dares to disagree.

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    Timvp said the exact same thing about the spurs looking for another defensive minded wing a week ago. But he's infallible on spurstalk, so nobody dares to disagree.
    He may have sources, but I haven't seen any other indications.

    I'm actually thinking they are ready to roll into the season with the 14 players they currently have under contract barring some LLE bargain or SL/training camp revelation.

    But that is sheer speculation on my part.

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    We agree he has some value then.

    The Spurs are seemingly moving towards more athletic players off the bench. As MB said, they are beginning to look past the Duncan era and into the Parker era with the players they are acquiring. Bonner just doesn't seem to fit anymore.
    Absolutely. Haislip looks like Bonner's athletic replacement. We'll see if he can unseat him or if he does the Oberto routine for a season.

    Still, Bonner is a guy with knowledge of the system that played a big role last year. He still has a lot to give this season...though it will probably be his last in the silver and black.

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    He may have sources, but I haven't seen any other indications.

    I'm actually thinking they are ready to roll into the season with the 14 players they currently have under contract barring some LLE bargain or SL/training camp revelation.

    But that is sheer speculation on my part.
    I agree. Though I think the point Darkwaters was trying to make-- that people had over-reacted to a simple proposal is true, too.

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    I agree. Though I think the point Darkwaters was trying to make-- that people had over-reacted to a simple proposal is true, too.
    It wouldn't be SpursTalk if we didn't.

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