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Very much looking forward to the preseason. We may get to see Marcus Williams in action and more of Blair, Ian, Hill, Hairston, and even Haislip.
That fact stuck out to me too.
Very much looking forward to the preseason. We may get to see Marcus Williams in action and more of Blair, Ian, Hill, Hairston, and even Haislip.
Dang that's a lot of new guys, not to mention Jefferson and McDyess. This year's going to be very interesting.
So Mahinmi beat down a very highly ranked draft pick. Awesome. I hope he can contribute and seriously becomes a great player in this league. But you act like this is the sign of the second coming. Get over yourself.
Besides, it wasn't a "dump Mahinmi" thread. Sometimes you have to give up talent to get talent. But I'm sure you think we could move Bonner+Finley and get Dwight Howard, right? Getting Sefolosha would have given us one of the best SF rotations in the league. Just because you don't follow enough basketball to know his name doesn't mean hes a scrub. It was a worthy consideration, albeit probably unrealistic in the end.
And in light of the fact that Mahinmi is finally both healthy and developed to the point that he might contribute consistently it would probably be foolhardy to part ways before we looked at him closer against good compe ion anyways. I'm not really sure what beating up on a raw prospect like Thabeet means, but it's obviously a good sign considering his natural gifts. But lets get Ian in some real games now and hope he continues playing well.
So to make a long story shot: STFU.
You're a bit harsh with him (the poster). Indeed Thabo is a nice asset to have in the rotation but so will be Ian. We certainly could use an 22 athletic center don't you think? I'm not saying he's the second coming of Wilt but he obviously could be a shot alterer/defensive presence that can run the floor.
Good signs.
i can see Darkwaters point in that Ian is a couple years away and it may be worthwhile trading him for a ready made player that can help the next 2 seasons.
When eveluating Ian the closest comparison i can find is Amir Johnson
Amir also tore up the D-League and some think he has star potential.
The problem is he needs time to learn the NBA game and ground himself defensively. He simply was not ready to contribute to a contending Detroit team and was buried at the end of the bench in favor of the more experienced guys.
In the end Detroit salary dumped him but im pretty sure they could have landed something valuable if they used him as bait 2 years ago and we have the same option right now with Ian.
Dont get me wrong... a Bigman that potentially has lottery type talent is great but i dont think he's untradable like some suggest.
For Mahimni's contract +age + ceiling it would be premature to get rid of Mahimni for a wing that won't even play more than 12 minutes a game. (Manu +RJ = 60-65 mpg + Mason 20 mpg= 85 mpg at the 2/3. Which leaves only 11 minutes for Finley/ Hairston. Only way I'd trade him right now is to include him in a deal to bring over a big that splits time with McDyess and is the clear cut 2nd or 3rd best bigman.
I guess it depends on the wing...
I would seriously consider Finley/Mason + Bonner + Ian if it could land us Cap Jack or a 3/4 like Nocioni
If we were to do that and if Blair would get hurt then we would be left with just Haislip as our only big off the bench. Not smart.
well if one of those trades somehow went down then the LLE would be used to get the insurance bigman.
That wouldn't be an " insurance" big man considering Haislip hasn't proved to be a NBA player and how Blair hasn't proved anything either and is playing on no ACL's. Trading Mahimni plus Bonner for a wing would be really dumb and premature on the Spurs behalf right now.
Your assuming Ian can give meaningful minutes on championship contender.
Bonner is the only known quan y here and 90% of the board want him traded.
Its simple really. If its a good trade like
Mason/Finley + Bonner & Ian for Cap Jack or Nocioni + scrub
Then you use the LLE for the last Bigman.. Rasho / Wallace etc and bring in Gist
Or you can do the logical thing and hold onto the trade fodder, so you wouldn't be put the situation you presented above. Which would be obtaining a roster with a frail front-line.
Wait out with our current roster as of now and see which of our prospective big's sinks or swims the first 2 months of the year. If they swim then we would possibly package up Mason/ Bonner for a wing. But if they sink then we can use that trade bait for a big. Either or.
I'm just happy to see him healthly and happy to play, the kid has spent almost 2 ty years, props to him.
Finally I might be able to get rid of the thing under picnroll.
Nice to see Ian having a good SL. The true test that will determine his future as a Spurs is the training camp.
OT: A question for non-French posters on ST:
French NT campaign (with De Colo and Parker) has started one week ago, are you interested in a thread with infos about it?
I am not french but i am interested in anything related to the french NT as i support them. IMO an official thread for it would rock
It sure looke like if Ian can stay on the floor (health and PFs), he will make a significant contribution.
And his confidence and aggressiveness should grow as he learns the system better and his teammates start to count on him.
Yes, I am, but how would you define "non-French"?
Ian will hopefully be able to prove himself this year. I can't wait to watch!
This is really good to hear. I hope his game translates into the NBA though. But it's good to see he has made strides, gives me something to look forward to in the season. And this might be the year we'll have a real center alongside Duncan, has been a while.
Ian showed a lot of nice things, but I cannot believe how people are acting like Thabeet completely sucks? Even though Ian outplayed Thabeet overall, I thought Thabeet's "highs" looked better than Ian's, at least from a defensive stand point.
But very, very good game from Ian and I really hope he continues to be hungry/aggressive. I do not care about mistakes as long as they are aggressive mistakes. Same goes for Hill.
With this trade we would get smaller in the frontcourt, if Rasho doesn't sign. Also,what if Ian becomes a solid or very good big man. The first thing fans will say "How can the Spurs FO be so stupid".
I'm glad to see Ian with 4 blocked shots. Ian as active big man could be a big help.
That is part of the deal if you are in win-now mode. You might have to give up future contributors in order to do so. If the Spurs could get a proven/productive player for Ian I think they would do it.
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