LOL Suns
Not in the past two years they haven't. Idk why you'd expect it to change.
It's 2009, not 2006. I doubt Shaq is going to average 30 and 13 again like he did back in 2000.
The dollar value doesn't bother me at all. Killing the future cap flexibility of the team in the long term just to be barely good enough to make the playoffs in the short term is what bothers me. The Suns need to be in rebuilding mode, not "maintain mediocrity" mode.
da_suns_fan struggles with this concept.
Id take Nash's number from 08 or 07.
BTW - Congrats on replacing Monos with DOK. Who knew that you could find an even BIGGER to idolize you?!!
You guys can bash Nash and the Suns all you want. I have better things to do today besides read your tired, unoriginal "opinions".
for 35 M he can live with that
You have serious issues, man. You troll around on a board all day screaming to no one in particular how much you hate the Suns.
Get a ing life, loser.
What about his defense?
I seriously doubt any team in the league would consider trading away young players on top of offering 10+ to Dallas for Kidd.After receiving an improved offer last week and taking a few more days to deliberate, two-time NBA Most Valuable Player Steve Nash notified the Phoenix Suns over the weekend that he is accepting the Suns' two-year extension offer worth an estimated $22 million, according to team sources.
Sources told ESPN.com that Nash is expected to formally announce his decision via his Twitter feed later Monday.
The Suns offered Nash a two-year, $20 million extension two weeks ago in addition to the $13.1 million he's owed next season, then bumped it higher in a meeting in Las Vegas last Wednesday attended by Suns owner Robert Sarver, president of basketball operations Steve Kerr and Nash's agent Bill Duffy.
Although signals had been getting stronger in recent days that Nash would inevitably accept an improved proposal from Sarver -- including a Twitter message in the early hours of last Thursday from teammate Jared Dudley that Nash would be "signin that ext anyday" -- it has been a nervy wait this month for the Suns, who have made no secret that securing Nash's long-term future was their No. 1 priority this offseason.
One team official confirmed that the Suns were aware that Nash strongly considered the idea of playing out his contract next season, which would have enabled him to join the ballyhooed free-agent class of 2010 and possibly move to the New York Knicks to reunite with former coach Mike D'Antoni. Nash, though, ultimately opted for security with the franchise that drafted him out of Santa Clara in 1996 and gave him the platform to earn the nickname "Two-Time" from teammates with his back-to-back MVP seasons in 2005 and 2006 after leaving the Dallas Mavericks to rejoin the Suns in the summer of 2004.
"This is one of the hardest-working and most resilient athletes to have ever played in the NBA," Duffy said of Nash, who has hushed fears about his durability by playing in an average of 77 games over the five seasons of his second stint with the Suns. "He earns every penny."
Nash's public comments this month on negotiations generally gave Phoenix hope that he was prepared to spend the next three seasons in the desert -- which would take him to age 38 -- in spite of the Suns' recent slide in the West. During the recent opening of his latest Steve Nash Sports Club in his native Canada, Nash said: "I still believe in everybody there and still think we can build a winner."
In the same interview, though, Nash also mentioned the "financial constraints" that prompted the Suns to trade Shaquille O'Neal to Cleveland (for the expiring contracts of Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic) after O'Neal's first and only full season as a Sun resulted in a 46-36 record that featured the midseason firing of coach Terry Porter and a failure to make the playoffs.
"We maybe don't have the deep pockets of some of the other teams," Nash said, hinting at what sources close to the process described as his concerns about the Suns' ability to reload roster-wise during the span of his new deal to return Phoenix to the Western Conference elite.
The Suns, though, made it clear to Nash that they would refuse any outside trade interest, even if he insisted on playing out his current contract to have the right to shop himself in the summer of 2010, when D'Antoni undoubtedly would have made a hard push to try to lure Nash to the Knicks in free agency.
Sources say Portland never got close in recent weeks with its determined push to convince Phoenix to part with a package of young players for Nash, who then would have received a contract richer than the deal he ultimately accepted from the Suns.
In addition to re-signing Nash, Phoenix has drafted Earl Clark, signed free-agent forward Channing Frye, re-signed Nash's close friend Grant Hill and bought out Wallace this offseason. It remains to be seen how the future of Suns forward Amare Stoudemire plays out from here, with sources indicating that the club has not ruled out trading Stoudemire after exploring the possibility in February before the league's annual trading deadline and again in June in conjunction with the draft.
That says it all as to who is better. I know its tough for Mavs fans to swallow, but theyre just still so bitter about Cuban's decision to let go of Nash so they could sign Eric ing Dampier.
pulls the I have a life card since he's losing the argument.
And if I hated the Suns, I'd be rejoicing the Nash extension.
I'm not bashing Nash. I like the guy. He's one of my all-time favorite Mavs. I appreciate his game and don't understand DoK's hate. I simply responded to your assertion that at this point he's a better player than Kidd. I don't think that he is and would be willing to have a civil debate about it. I haven't called you names or insulted you in this thread. The choice is up to you.
DoK now argues with more people and more often than I do
I only get into it with a few Laker fans now and then that deserve it. DoK bringin' hate to a new level with all comers![]()
I'd hate my team too if I had to deal with the garbage Suns fans have had to deal with. Enjoy Nash keeping PHX just out of the lottery for the next two years.
My only wish is that he had signed with an Eastern team, and the Mavs had been able to get Damp for MLE money instead of franchise player money. You tell me who's better equipped to guard Tim Duncan, Steve Nash or Erick Dampier. Is it a coincidence that the Mavs couldn't get past San Antonio with Nash at PG, started beating the Spurs and came within an inch of a le after he left...whereas Nash brought his struggles against San Antonio with him to the desert?
Perhaps Dallas should've found another big instead of Dampier to throw all that money on, but the concept was a good one and almost worked. With Nash, we would've continued to lose in the 2nd round to the Spurs every year.
I apologized to you for that comment I made awhile ago saying I was wrong and the people you were arguing with were re ed.
Fair enough. I respect your opinion.
I don't idolize anyone. I'm a Maverick like John McCain.
I'd rather have Jason Terry at PG and Erick Dampier at C than Steve Nash at PG and Shawn Bradley at C. And the on-court results bear that out.
No, I pull the "get a life card" when you resort to personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with you.
I wasn't making any personal attacks.
Uh, uh, DUNCAN, you personally attacked me last nite when I caught ya tiptoeing thru the tulips unawares of the Sun's parade in the aftermath of Paxson's three pointer in '93.
I was messing with you.
They did this to appease the "average" fan and keep butts in the seats. If they trade Amare to open up cap space, they will be right around 41M for next year even with the Nash extension. It does not take them out of the running for 2010. But it does not let you fully rebuild until Nash is retired now.
I think Nash getting back to back MVP was bad for PHX as he basically has PHX FO by their balls, and apparently still does now.
PHX FO don't seem to know the first thing to do when it comes to rebuilding at all.
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