Official Right Wing Christian Bashing Thread

[ElNono]

Yeah, I understood his exaggeration since he's not a known God/religion-hater like you are. With you, the intentions are not nearly as discernible.

Maybe if you worked harder on being less of an intolerant prick, one wouldn't be so quick to call you out on it.

BTW, for the many believers of the Bible on this site and world-wde, 'fairy tale' is more than just 'belittling'. You're purposely trolling or being an ass. Don't deny it now.

I don't hate God. I don't hate religion. I'm on the record that religion has it's place in society. Maybe for different reasons than yours, but nonetheless just as valid.
This whole anti-religion, anti-christianity bull is a creation of your own sick ing mind.
I don't go around telling anybody what they should believe in, or what they should think about the bible.
What I will do, is speak freely about what I believe. Just as much as the religious people go out there and speak their mind about what they believe in without having to apologize for it.
You don't even know what the word intolerant means.
Unless I agree with your point of view, I'm always going to be anti-religion and anti-christianity in your twisted mind. That is the definition of intolerance.

[LnGrrrR]

At last

Guess who my second bashee is going to be? Hint: he talks funny.


At least now we'll get away from the intellectual dimness of Dark Reign, a Piston Fan, flailing blindly in the dark in one of the biggest shows of sheer stupidity in the history of ST, and LGNNNR surpsassing it...with every post he makes.

Honestly whottt, you're far too humble. I could never surpass the stupidity you displayed for all to see every day leading up to the 2008 elections. That's Hall of Fame caliber stuff, right there.

[LnGrrrR]

At last

Guess who my second bashee is going to be? Hint: he talks funny.


At least now we'll get away from the intellectual dimness of Dark Reign, a Piston Fan, flailing blindly in the dark in one of the biggest shows of sheer stupidity in the history of ST, and LGNNNR surpsassing it...with every post he makes.

Bashee? Or basher?

Bashee would imply that you were going to be bashing Baseline Bum. However, since you bashed myself and DarkReign and Bartleby already, Baseline would technically be the FOURTH bashee.

You know, just trying to keep the reading comprehension at a high level.

[z0sa]

Unless I agree with your point of view, I'm always going to be anti-religion and anti-christianity in your twisted mind. That is the definition of intolerance.

More like don't insult my point of view and I don't have a problem. Believe whatever you want, you won't find a single place on this forum where I ever stated my own religious beliefs for that matter.

BTW, one who goes around calling the Bible a fairy tale and half-joking about everyone else's beliefs probably doesn't know what intolerance is, either.

[DarkReign]

Well, we all have a bar to reach for. Some just have shorter arms and more rotund stomachs making it difficult to overcome gravity.

I thought you were older than the ADD generation, whotttness?

[Extra Stout]

The last thing that can be said of a lunatic is that his actions are causeless. If any human acts may loosely be called causeless; they are the minor acts of a healthy man; whistling as he walks; slashing the grass with a stick…It is the happy man who does the useless things; the sick man is not strong enough to be idle. It is exactly such careless and causeless actions that the madman could never understand; for the madman…generally sees too much cause in everything. The madman would read a conspiratorial significance into those empty activities. He would think that the lopping of the grass was an attack on private property. He would think that the kicking of the heels was a signal to an accomplice. If the madman could for an instant become careless, he would become sane. Everyone who has had the misfortune to talk with people in the heart or on the edge of mental disorder, knows that their most sinister quality is a horrible clarity of detail; a connecting of one thing with another in a map more elaborate than a maze. If you argue with a madman, it is extremely probable that you will get the worst of it; for in many ways his mind moves all the quicker for not being delayed by the things that go with good judgment. He is not hampered by a sense of humor or by charity, or by the dumb certainties of experience. He is the more logical for losing sane affections. Indeed, the common phrase for insanity is in this respect a misleading one. The madman is not the man who has lost his reason. The madman is the man who has lost everything except his reason.

[DarkReign]

Thats an awesome quote. Apt, too.

[ElNono]

More like don't insult my point of view and I don't have a problem. Believe whatever you want, you won't find a single place on this forum where I ever stated my own religious beliefs for that matter.

So, how could I purposely insult your point of view since I don't even know what your point of view is? You even admit you haven't said what it is.
That said, you DID state you believe the bible to be a historically accurate do ent, and I don't agree with that point of view, and stated what my point of view is. Hardly an insult to you or your beliefs.

BTW, one who goes around calling the Bible a fairy tale and half-joking about everyone else's beliefs probably doesn't know what intolerance is, either.

Excuse me, but you are the one that came out of the left field making baseless accusations and telling me what I should believe the bible to be while I was replying with a joke to a self admitted agnostic.
You are all worked up because *I* don't respect your god or your bible, and you automatically assumed that I also don't respect those that do believe in your god and your bible. That's simply not true. But you had to pass judgement anyways, because you're an intolerant hypocrite.

[clambake]

michigan is a hole because of people like you.

[z0sa]

So, how could I purposely insult your point of view since I don't even know what your point of view is?

What is intolerance? Disregarding everyone's point of view except yours. I never said you "purposely" insulted my specific point of view, I said you are anti-religion. You're the one who's trying to deny your remarks were ever snide.

That said, you DID state you believe the bible to be a historically accurate do ent,

I implied it, yes. Except for the angry non-believers, most agree that if you omit the religious incantations, you have a surprisingly accurate historical do ent.

and I don't agree with that point of view,

Then your grip on the facts is less than stellar.

and stated what my point of view is.

By calling it a fairy tale, with no other explanation until multiple posters called you out on it.

Hardly an insult to you or your beliefs.

True that its not much an insult, though it be one. How does that change the idea that one is an anti-religious poster?

Excuse me, but you are the one that came out of the left field

Clearly not the case, I rarely read your comments but yeah, broad insults about religions hit home with believers. Hence the trolling/you're being an ass comment I made to you.

making baseless accusations and telling me what I should believe the bible to be

Fairy tale does not accurately describe the Bible .. which means the facts don't go along with your story. Regardless of whether or not you believe its a fairy tale, those who study it and other ancient do ents have found it to be historically accurate in a broad range of different cases.

while I was replying with a joke to a self admitted agnostic.

I guess you could call it a political joke. It still reveals much about your position on the issue when combined with your other posts ...

You are all worked up

Incorrect.

because *I* don't respect your god or your bible,

So you are anti-religion? Or you generally disrespect ideals while still supporting them?

and you automatically assumed

There is some that I presume, based off your others posts. 'Tis only Human nature.

that I also don't respect those that do believe in your god and your bible.

Which God? My Bible? You don't know my beliefs, so don' act like you do.

Second, you've been disrespectful before.

simply not true. But you had to pass judgement anyways, because you're an intolerant hypocrite.

Can you name off what exactly I'm intolerant of? I made no such general specifications about you - I clearly denoted exactly what you are intolerant of, religion as a whole. And like I said earlier, I presume judgment, not pass it, based off your previous posts. Your beliefs are of little concern to me. It is your seemingly incessant anti-religious at ude which got you labeled.

[ElNono]

What is intolerance? Disregarding everyone's point of view except yours.I never said you "purposely" insulted my specific point of view, I said you are anti-religion. You're the one who's trying to deny your remarks were ever snide.

See, you STILL DON'T KNOW what the word intolerance means.
Go grab a dictionary and come back once you figure out what it is.

And you did say I insulted your point of view and implied I was doing it on purpose:

More like don't insult my point of view and I don't have a problem.

No need to backpedal now. And if I would be anti-religion, why the would I ever want to deny my comments were snide?????

I implied it, yes. Except for the angry non-believers, most agree that if you omit the religious incantations, you have a surprisingly accurate historical do ent.

I'm not an angry non-believer and I'm not 'most' of everyone else. Can you actually accept that? Does it fit in your head I fall in that category?

Then your grip on the facts is less than stellar.

I disagree. Then again, I respect your opinion.

By calling it a fairy tale, with no other explanation until multiple posters called you out on it.

What other explanation do I need? I said I believe it to be a fairly tale. Anything else I should add? Does it bother you what my beliefs are, or that I express them freely?

True that its not much an insult, though it be one. How does that change the idea that one is an anti-religious poster?

I see an anti-religious poster as one that preaches his lack of belief in God to other posters. I do none of that. Do I tell you that you're a religious zealot? I don't. Because I have no interest to know or a problem with what your beliefs are.

Clearly not the case, I rarely read your comments but yeah, broad insults about religions hit home with believers. Hence the trolling/you're being an ass comment I made to you.

Well, you did reply to a post I made to another poster. That's CLEARLY the case. And it was no insult, simply a joke that you're too prideful to admit flew right over your head.

Fairy tale does not accurately describe the Bible .. which means the facts don't go along with your story. Regardless of whether or not you believe its a fairy tale, those who study it and other ancient do ents have found it to be historically accurate in a broad range of different cases.

Opinion. Respectable, but opinion nonetheless. I don't agree with your view at all.

I guess you could call it a political joke. It still reveals much about your position on the issue when combined with your other posts ...

It was a joke. The guy I was replying to got it. You didn't. Move on.

So you are anti-religion? Or you generally disrespect ideals while still supporting them?

I respect other people's choice to believe whatever they want to believe in.

There is some that I presume, based off your others posts. 'Tis only Human nature.

You presume to know what other people think. Gotcha.

Which God? My Bible? You don't know my beliefs, so don' act like you do.

But you did just tell me:

Clearly not the case, I rarely read your comments but yeah, broad insults about religions hit home with believers. Hence the trolling/you're being an ass comment I made to you.

Can you name off what exactly I'm intolerant of? I made no such general specifications about you - I clearly denoted exactly what you are intolerant of, religion as a whole. And like I said earlier, I presume judgment, not pass it, based off your previous posts. Your beliefs are of little concern to me. It is your seemingly incessant anti-religious at ude which got you labeled.

in⋅tol⋅er⋅ance  [in-tol-er-uhns] Show IPA
–noun
1. lack of toleration; unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect contrary opinions or beliefs, persons of different races or backgrounds, etc.

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You don't tolerate my belief of the bible being a fairly tale, because it's contrary to your beliefs. You don't respect my belief either. You, sir, are an intolerant d-bag.

[z0sa]

Fairy tale does not accurately describe the Bible .. which means the facts don't go along with your story. Regardless of whether or not you believe its a fairy tale, those who study it and other ancient do ents have found it to be historically accurate in a broad range of different cases.

Calling the Bible a fairy tale, especially in the context you did (after Extra_Stout related much interesting info about its history), qualifies as a broad insult to any religion considering the historical accuracies of the Bible.

In other words, its clearly inferred you think all holy articles are fairy tales since the most well-preserved of them all is in that category.

You're not a 3rd grader. Stop playing stupid and admit you're being a facetious . we're not that different, after all.

[ElNono]

Calling the Bible a fairy tale, especially in the context you did (after Extra_Stout related much interesting info about its history), qualifies as a broad insult to any religion considering the historical accuracies of the Bible.

In other words, its clearly inferred you think all holy articles are fairy tales since the most well-preserved of them all is in that category.

You're not a 3rd grader. Stop playing stupid and admit you're being a facetious . we're not all that different, after all.

We get it, you're an intolerant prick.

[z0sa]

See, you STILL DON'T KNOW what the word intolerance means.
Go grab a dictionary and come back once you figure out what it is.

That is the exact definition, in laman terms.

And you did say I insulted your point of view and implied I was doing it on purpose:

It was a minor insult, like i related, but a broad one - you didn't specifically attack mine. Everything one does is on purpose, the "joy" of being human.

And if I would be anti-religion, why the would I ever want to deny my comments were snide?????

because you're being facetious, or just don't want appear that way. I'm not overly concerned with the reasoning behind WHY you don't believe and hate the system others adopted, just like you aren't concerned with the WHYs behind my computer screen.

I'm not an angry non-believer and I'm not 'most' of everyone else. Can you actually accept that? Does it fit in your head I fall in that category?

I left that opening there to see if you'd take that route, which you sadly did. This implies I created an option where you had none. Since I must clarify, by 'most' I meant those who know what the they're talking about. Since you profess you're no expert or even have a passing interest on the Bible, step aside from judging its historicity.

I disagree. Then again, I respect your opinion.

I appreciate that. Its mutual, which is why i called you out. I generally believe everything you have to say, so when you call the bible a fairy tale, I concluded you have some plausible reasoning.

What other explanation do I need?

The sky will be red tomorrow. What? You want to me to do some explaining to the meteorologists? I can't just unequivocally state my opinion as fact and take offense when others call me hateful or ignorant for it?

/elNono

I said I believe it to be a fairly tale.

See above.

Anything else I should add? Does it bother you what my beliefs are, or that I express them freely?

No, they don't bother me, though I would be lying if I said I didn't come here to hear what others have to say.

I see an anti-religious poster as one that preaches his lack of belief in God to other posters. I do none of that.

Well, calling the basis of religion, our articles which were passed down for many generations, as 'fairy tale', is anti-religious. Doing so without even so much as an explanation during a Bible authenticity thread, is REALLY anti-religious. My opinion, obviously as all this has been.

Do I tell you that you're a religious zealot? I don't.

Religious zealot and anti-religious zealot are not polar opposites.

Well, you did reply to a post I made to another poster. That's CLEARLY the case. And it was no insult, simply a joke that you're too prideful to admit flew right over your head.

Considering I would not understand the context you used it in, and still really don't because I don't pay much attention to any forum section below the top2, no I am not being too prideful.

Opinion. Respectable, but opinion nonetheless. I don't agree with your view at all.

Then it is not merely opinion to state you are ignorant to all the facts. The Bible is an authentic historical do ent whether you choose to accept it or not.

BTW, the many non-Christian/Jewish historians and scientists who have studied the Bible's authenticity for decades would probably laugh you out of their sight. Just saying. The educated populace (that 'most' I was speaking of earlier) doesn't just disregard facts for no reason other than they were in the Bible or some other religious do ent.

It was a joke. The guy I was replying to got it. You didn't. Move on.

But we are in the christian/right wing thread, are we not? Then the comment was perfectly placed.

I respect other people's choice to believe whatever they want to believe in.

I disagree, which is why i made the comment in the first place.

You presume to know what other people think. Gotcha.

Prediction: humanity's greatest ability. We all do it, all day, at least those of us who want results.

in⋅tol⋅er⋅ance  [in-tol-er-uhns] Show IPA
–noun
1. lack of toleration; unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect contrary opinions or beliefs, persons of different races or backgrounds, etc.

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I'm unaware where my definition did not coincide with this one.

[ElNono]

That is the exact definition, in laman terms.

Your definition:
Disregarding everyone's point of view except yours

The actual definition:
unwillingness or refusal to tolerate or respect contrary opinions or beliefs

You still don't see the difference? I'm not a 3rd grader, are you?

More like don't insult my point of view and I don't have a problem

I never said you "purposely" insulted my specific point of view

It was a minor insult, like i related, but a broad one - you didn't specifically attack mine. Everything one does is on purpose, the "joy" of being human.

Make up your mind.

because you're being facetious, or just don't want appear that way. I'm not overly concerned with the reasoning behind WHY you don't believe and hate the system others adopted, just like you aren't concerned with the WHYs behind my computer screen.

I don't hate the system, but all I can do is state it clearly, which I believe I've done numerous times already. So, wether you believe what I say or not is really irrelevant.

I left that opening there to see if you'd take that route, which you sadly did. This implies I created an option where you had none. Since I must clarify, by 'most' I meant those who know what the they're talking about. Since you profess you're no expert or even have a passing interest on the Bible, step aside from judging its historicity.

Link... Quote?
This is wrong on many levels. First of all, you're correct in that I don't claim to be an expert. However, you have absolutely ZERO clue of my religious past. If you would actually do a search, I think I posted that a while back.
And I do have a passing interest on it. I find interesting the actual history of the text, and stated so in Extra Stout's post.
Last, but not least, even if I didn't have a clue of what I was talking about, you're free to tell me you disagree, but you're certainly unable to stop me from expressing my opinion. Does that bother you? Tell us how you really feel...

I appreciate that. Its mutual, which is why i called you out. I generally believe everything you have to say, so when you call the bible a fairy tale, I concluded you have some plausible reasoning.

I already explained why I believe it's a fairy tale. Obviously not to your satisfaction, but that's certainly not my problem now, is it?

The sky will be red tomorrow. What? You want to me to do some explaining to the meteorologists? I can't just unequivocally state my opinion as fact and take offense when others call me hateful or ignorant for it?

/elNono

Did I state my belief was a fact? Link? Quote?

Well, calling the basis of religion, our articles which were passed down for many generations, as 'fairy tale', is anti-religious. Doing so without even so much as an explanation during a Bible authenticity thread, is REALLY anti-religious. My opinion, obviously as all this has been.

Certainly your opinion, which I disagree with.
Furthermore, the concept of religion predates your scriptures. You need to read more.

Considering I would not understand the context you used it in, and still really don't because I don't pay much attention to any forum section below the top2, no I am not being too prideful.

It went over your head. I'm moving on.

Then it is not merely opinion to state you are ignorant to all the facts.

It's entirely an opinion, because you don't know at all whatsoever what my religious background is.

The Bible is an authentic historical do ent whether you choose to accept it or not.

There you go preaching opinion as fact again.

BTW, the many non-Christian/Jewish historians and scientists who have studied the Bible's authenticity for decades would probably laugh you out of their sight. Just saying. The educated populace (that 'most' I was speaking of earlier) doesn't just disregard facts for no reason other than they were in the Bible or some other religious do ent.

I was educated in religion. I don't think it's a entirely historically accurate do ent. It's my opinion, and it is shared by many other people. We might not be the majority, but I don't really care.

Prediction: humanity's greatest ability. We all do it, all day, at least those of us who want results.

Presume and Predict are two different words, with different meanings. We really need to get you a dictionary.

[z0sa]

I never said its an entirelyhistorical do ent. You have to sever the religious aspects from it.

We're only butting heads, I won't go on.

[LnGrrrR]

I was wondering when you'd give up z0sa. Doesn't the Bible say something about charity or whatnot? Just accept that you can't change some people.

[ElNono]

I never said its an entirelyhistorical do ent. You have to sever the religious aspects from it.

Well, if you sever the religious aspects, then my opinion is that it wouldn't have had anywhere near the same impact it historically had. I already went over this in the other thread.

We're only butting heads, I won't go on.

Fair enough. Listen, my parents are churchgoers, and I know religion works for them. I respect their beliefs, because it's what makes them happy. I was raised a roman catholic, had baptism, communion and confirmation. I used to go to church every Sunday. I attended catechism for years. Does it makes me an expert on religion or the bible? No. But it did give me enough of a background of what all that was about.
I took a different path for a number of different reasons, which are beyond this thread, some of which I touched on some other threads when this subject came around.
I'm a happy individual that way. It's what works for me.

[Marcus Bryant]

"Tolerance" means accepting accepting that another has a right to live their life as they see fit and express whatever opinions they like, so far as you don't have to accept the right to express anything which could be construed as Christian, capitalist, individualistic, or patriotic.

[whottt]

Bashee? Or basher?

Bashee, as in the second name mentioned by myself to be bashed by religious bigots for being a Right Wing Christian in the "Official Right Wing Christian Bashing Thread"...with David Robinson being the first.

See how ing stupid you are?

Seriously dude get off the internet and go find something that is the right speed for you like a Big Chief Notebook.

Bashee would imply that you were going to be bashing Baseline Bum.

It implies nothing of the kind....you are just ing stupid.

However, since you bashed myself and DarkReign and Bartleby already, Baseline would technically be the FOURTH bashee.

No, even according to your own ed logic, baseline bum would be the 5th.

You left out Bush Dynasty.

Nice job Einstein.

You know, just trying to keep the reading comprehension at a high level.

By all means, keep trying. Please.

[Winehole23]

"Tolerance" means accepting accepting that another has a right to live their life as they see fit and express whatever opinions they like, so far as you don't have to accept the right to express anything which could be construed as Christian, capitalist, individualistic, or patriotic.

An MB original? No cribbing?

[Winehole23]

...whatever opinions they like, so far as you don't have to accept the right to express anything which could be construed as Christian, capitalist, individualistic, or patriotic.

I would add the proviso:

but only so long as it is expedient *not* to express these.

The instant it does becomes politically expedient to seize one of these themes, the participation is practically instantaneous.

[Winehole23]

Well, we all have a bar to reach for. Some just have shorter arms and more rotund stomachs making it difficult to overcome gravity.

*Try* sometimes clutches the bar successfully.

I thought you were older than the ADD generation, whotttness?

This locution is wh23-approved.

[Winehole23]

for in many ways his mind moves all the quicker for not being delayed by the things that go with good judgment

"Echols one time told me that tryin' to get the best of a wolf is like tryin' to get the best of a kid. It ain't that they're smarter. It's just that they ain't got all that much else to think about."

[Winehole23]

"There is no such joy in the tavern as upon the road thereto."