Which Laker fans are in a greater stage of denial?

[DrHouse]

fact: KG injury prevented Celtics from reaching the Finals - No it's highly doubtful that Boston would have beaten Cleveland without HCA. They were taken to 7 games the previous season, when they were a better team with Posey and Brown, despite having HCA against a far inferior Cleveland team.

fact: Manu injury prevented Spurs from reaching the Finals - , the Spurs just weren't that good.

fact: Yao injury prevented Rockets from beating the Lakers - Lakers actually matched up better with Yao in the game. He slowed the game down considerably, which works in LA's advantage.

fact: Lakers won an easy finals and championship because of the injuries to the 3 other contenders. - Lakers played the best EC team available and whooped them 4 -1.

[hater]

[cheguevara]

No it's highly doubtful that Boston would have beaten Cleveland without HCA. They were taken to 7 games the previous season, when they were a better team with Posey and Brown, despite having HCA against a far inferior Cleveland team.

how ing stupid can you be??? Boston played Orlando, which beat the Cavs. So Boston would not have played the Cavs. shows how much you actually know

the Spurs just weren't that good.

opinion, not fact.

Lakers actually matched up better with Yao in the game. He slowed the game down considerably, which works in LA's advantage.

so Rockets were better off without Yao? wow. just wow

Lakers played the best EC team available and whooped them 4 -1.

pathetic.

[mytespurs]

just viewing the endless back/forth, I'd say both fan bases are in stages of denial.

I wish some spurs fan will just accept the fact that the Lakers are the champs and they are currently the best team in the league.

That's no knock on our team-we have NOTHING to be ashamed or defensive about; we're still good team. We won 50 games and we won our division despite playing inconsistent and subpar basketball. Yes we lost in the first round but it's not as if we hadn't lost to this team before (when the stakes were much higher).

As for the "injury" excuse, injuries are a part of the game so teams have to deal the best way possible but losing key players impacts your team-Manu was out most of the year and Tim was not healthy did impact the Spurs play.....not an excuse but a FACT!

And another thing about excuses, that's not an exclusive of Spurs fans...Laker fans have done the same as have Mav fans, Suns fans.....so that broken record that isn't worth listening to afterwhile.

[spursfan1000]

Even if the Lakers lose Odom they are still the favorties caz the are the champions but the Spurs will give them a run for their money.

[Spurs_210]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I was right here throughout the entire Rocket series. Go back and read the game threads.

But please, don't let little things like facts get in your way.

Laker fans on here never made excuses for losing when it's clear our team wasn't good enough. We weren't good enough to beat Boston in '08, we were in '09 but never got the chance. I believe we will be in '10 assuming Odom resigns.

At least I can be honest when my team flat out isn't championship material. It was painfully obvious the Spurs weren't last season.

So you speak on behalf of all Laker fans now? You know that's bull cause once the Lakers lost there where lots of excuses on how Bynum would've made the difference.

[Spurs_210]

Even if the Lakers lose Odom they are still the favorties caz the are the champions but the Spurs will give them a run for their money.

Which is true but according to House nobody in the West is on the Lakers level.

[DrHouse]

how ing stupid can you be??? Boston played Orlando, which beat the Cavs. So Boston would not have played the Cavs. shows how much you actually know



opinion, not fact.



so Rockets were better off without Yao? wow. just wow





pathetic.

Boston with KG would have BEATEN ORLANDO and then they would have played the Cavs in the ECF. How ing stupid can YOU BE?

[carrao45]

I can't wait to play the Lakers in the regular season. The only down side is that we wont be able to fully enjoy the win for two possible reasons A) DrHouse has shown that he only shows up when he can be all "Lakers are the best, Spurs suck" hence his absence during the rocket series. And B) the Lakers fans will make excuses. "That was a lucky shot by Mason, had Kobe hit that shot at the end we would have won, it's only the regular season we won the championship.

acting like SA winning is a sure thing

[TheMACHINE]

fact: KG injury prevented Celtics from reaching the Finals
fact: Manu injury prevented Spurs from reaching the Finals
fact: Yao injury prevented Rockets from beating the Lakers

fact: Lakers won an easy finals and championship because of the injuries to the 3 other contenders.

Fact: Spurs will never be without injuries in the playoffs.

[carrao45]

fact: KG injury prevented Celtics from reaching the Finals
fact: Manu injury prevented Spurs from reaching the Finals
fact: Yao injury prevented Rockets from beating the Lakers

fact: Lakers won an easy finals and championship because of the injuries to the 3 other contenders.

Fact: The Manu injury prevented the Spurs from losing to the Lakers in the WCF's

Fact: The Rockets played better without Yao, and the only reason the Rockets won a game after Yao went out was because LA played lazy.

Fact: At some point the players who are injured EVERY YEAR (Yao, Mcgrady, Ginobili) can't be used as an excuse anymore. It is painfully obvius those players (especially Yao) can't be relied on that late in a season, so the excuse, ''Oh but Yao was injured'' becomes unusable, because everybody knows he's going to be injured by then. He can't be counted on to provide in the playoffs

[in2deep]

these laker trolls are funny. come in pairs

[carrao45]

how ing stupid can you be??? Boston played Orlando, which beat the Cavs. So Boston would not have played the Cavs. shows how much you actually know



opinion, not fact.



so Rockets were better off without Yao? wow. just wow





pathetic.

You are an idiot. Boston played Orlando first, and if they won, they would have played Cleveland in the ECF's.

And you can't use the Yao and Ginobili excuse every year, because it's becoming obvious that counting on them is a risk

[carrao45]

So you speak on behalf of all Laker fans now? You know that's bull cause once the Lakers lost there where lots of excuses on how Bynum would've made the difference.

Laker Fans made excuses then. The Spur Fans are doing the same now.

Every year fanbases make excuses

[Showtime24 LAKERS]

LOL..I still remember..not only the heavy excuses about Bynum and Ariza, but also heavy complaining about the officiating in game 2..everybody knows what it means when Laker fans complain about officials though, it means that the game was officiated fairly on both sides..

[Man In Black]

And you can't use the Yao and Ginobili excuse every year, because it's becoming obvious that counting on them is a risk

Don't be like Nurse head and avoid the question. Does Bynum get an instant free pass that says he's injury proof because he's a Laker?

I can say that when it comes to Manu, this is what the EXECUTIVE VICE-PRESIDENT OF BASKETBALL OPERATIONS SAYS,"
-Tim Duncan is not running up hills and doing the things he usually does in the summer. The Spurs are holding him off. Manu Ginobili is healthy again. Pop hopes that adding Richard Jefferson and Antonio McDyess puts the Spurs back in the ballgame. "

Yet Andrew "Clutch My Knee In Pain", gets a free pass that says DOMINANCE.

I'd say based on his limited skills and weak mental toughness, I think his pass really says,"Mediocrity, at least I'm better than Sasha".

[TheMACHINE]

Don't be like Nurse head and avoid the question. Does Bynum get an instant free pass that says he's injury proof because he's a Laker?

I can say that when it comes to Manu, this is what the EXECUTIVE VICE-PRESIDENT OF BASKETBALL OPERATIONS SAYS,"
-Tim Duncan is not running up hills and doing the things he usually does in the summer. The Spurs are holding him off. Manu Ginobili is healthy again. Pop hopes that adding Richard Jefferson and Antonio McDyess puts the Spurs back in the ballgame. "

Yet Andrew "Clutch My Knee In Pain", gets a free pass that says DOMINANCE.

I'd say based on his limited skills and weak mental toughness, I think his pass really says,"Mediocrity, at least I'm better than Sasha".

Lakers beat you without Bynum 2 yrs ago...then you lose in the first round 4-1 this year...Rj MIGHT get you out of the first round this yr but thats probably with an injured manu again. lol

[Spurs_210]

Laker Fans made excuses then. The Spur Fans are doing the same now.

Every year fanbases make excuses

Which is true... Just pointing that out to House since he seems to speak on behalf Laker fans.

[Spurs_210]

Fact: Spurs will never be without injuries in the playoffs.

You know this for fact?

[TimDunkem]

Lakers beat you without Bynum 2 yrs ago...then you lose in the first round 4-1 this year...Rj MIGHT get you out of the first round this yr but thats probably with an injured manu again. lol

Your sig is sick. I bet Kobe has to hold those s like a slice of pizza.

[carrao45]

Which is true... Just pointing that out to House since he seems to speak on behalf Laker fans.

No we all hate House

[carrao45]

Don't be like Nurse head and avoid the question. Does Bynum get an instant free pass that says he's injury proof because he's a Laker?

I can say that when it comes to Manu, this is what the EXECUTIVE VICE-PRESIDENT OF BASKETBALL OPERATIONS SAYS,"
-Tim Duncan is not running up hills and doing the things he usually does in the summer. The Spurs are holding him off. Manu Ginobili is healthy again. Pop hopes that adding Richard Jefferson and Antonio McDyess puts the Spurs back in the ballgame. "

Yet Andrew "Clutch My Knee In Pain", gets a free pass that says DOMINANCE.

I'd say based on his limited skills and weak mental toughness, I think his pass really says,"Mediocrity, at least I'm better than Sasha".

I was talking about previous year, not this coming year. I hope Manu is healthy this upcoming season.

I was just saying that the ''Oh Yao was injured, so the Lakers just got lucky'' excuse is bull . Counting on Yao was a risk, because he is so injury-prone, the Rockets took that risk and they payed for it. Using the injury excuse for Yao or Mcgrady or Ginobili when they are so frequently injured is just idiotic.

[mystargtr34]

So its normal when Yao gets injured, yet Bynum doesnt. Sometimes its just about luck - and you have to admit the Lakers were good, and lucky.

Kevin Garnett
Yao Ming
Manu
Jameer Nelson

Even Okur was injured for the Jazz.

[carrao45]

So its normal when Yao gets injured, yet Bynum doesnt. Sometimes its just about luck - and you have to admit the Lakers were good, and lucky.

Kevin Garnett
Yao Ming
Manu
Jameer Nelson

Even Okur was injured for the Jazz.

I never used the Bynum excuse. not once. I dont believe in using injury as an excuse. I never have, and I don't believe others should