^ mad
lakerfan trying to ignore the $100+ million plus payroll they will be taking on for years to come. like the celtics, magic, spurs, and cavs, it will be all or nothing the next two years.
^ mad
lmao spur fans can't argue about how good the lakers are
so now they argue about how much they cost.
Personally, I dont give a if Buss pays 200 million dollars, I want a ing championship team. I know you guys are really concerned, but I am not.
I just compared the lakers to the rest of the championship contenders. Don't worry I gave them their props, I know how insecure lakerfan can be.
LMAO spurfan mad.
ROFLZLOLZ you mad.
lol i dont htink the lakes are winning with this team ... rest of nba has totally closed the gap this season. celts, cavs, magic, spurs are looking stronger than they have the past two years. But im glad odom has resigned, it would have been a shame to have the lakers go to lottery all over again circa 2005-2007 ..
The Lakers still might be favourites, but they wont be winning it by default again, unless teams cant stay healthy again. All of the major contenders have improved.
Actually, I agree with you even though I'm Spurs fan.
There is no one way to being a successful sports franchise. The Spurs have made it their way and the Lakers have made it their way.
All I wanted is both teams to be fully healthy this upcoming season and go at each other...because the West is coming down either one of them.
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I am not going to argue that it is not 100% sure that the Lakers got better because nobody knows until the games are played.
But It seems like you are only weighing Artest's negatives with Ariza's positives. Which is okay. But it's not going to make me forget how injury prone (concussion this yr, broken foot last) and inconsistent Ariza was during the season in large part due to his style of play that we all covet. And he is not a great transition defender, Odom is our best transition defender by far. He is a top notch perimeter defender though, trust me. But I won't go on.
If we don't sign odom then yes I agree with your back up bigs point. But if we do then I feel its a moot point. If you want to compare the Lakers with the Spurs then you can also say the Lakers 100% have enough to get to the finals, and you can't say the same about the Spurs yet. There is still Denver. The spurs have a lot to prove this year and the Lakers just need to meet status quo.
Spurs are massively overrated right now.
John Ireland (Laker sideline reporter) says on local LA radio that this report is absolutely false. He says he has three sources within the Lakers that deny it completely.
For what it's worth.
As solid of a player Ariza was, Artest>>>>>>>Ariza and it isnt even close. Ariza thrived in the system and having open 3's due to the attention Gasol/Bryant got. Artest can guard the stronger players which is huge. He adds more toughness to the team. He can also create his O much better than Trevor could. Yeah he may have his times when he is off but the Lakers can live with that. Ron isnt going to ball hog and kill the O. I dont see Phil letting Ron doing that.
Someone needs to edit the misleading thread le and put a ? at the end.
How so.
Yeah life is rough for the Lakers and Laker fans All the Odom talks... teams interested or not... should Miami get him... should Portland take a shot... etc etc
...all for our 6th man!![]()
6th man....3rd best player.
Spurs are massively overrated because people are assuming Duncan and Ginobili will play like they did 3-4 years ago. They are older and more injury prone than they once were and that will have an effect on them in the '10 season. Furthermore, they simply aren't capable of dominating the way they did in their primes.
The Lakers are still entirely in their primes. The team they have, assuming Odom resigns, is definitely good enough to contend for the next 3-4 seasons. You give me a healthy Bynum and a more experienced Shannon Brown and I love our chances next season. The Lakers have never had any issue taking down the Spurs, and now that the talent levels are lopsided in the Laker's favor I really am not worried about the Spurs. Not anymore so than I would compared to the Nuggets.
The only teams I legitimately am worried about are Boston and Cleveland.
That's what I meant, I sense its a foregone conclusion that they're the 2nd best team in the WEst. but I think the jurys still out on that, and pends on those "wild cards"
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Well i think hes questions the Spurs status as a contender. To me, adding Jefferson, Manu and McDyess to a 55 win team, while losing nothing, takes that team to contender status.
I just wanted to hear the Mav fan reasoning.
Bowen, Kurt Thomas.
Weren't Spur fans arguing just this year that Bowen is still a lock down defender?
Not arguing. I am just saying.
So the Lakers core will not slip at all over the next 3-4 years? Kobe will have the same athleticism 4 years from now?
Also, where is this slippage from Ginobili? You can say injury prone, but not that his production has slipped. Look at the numbers per minute. Last year when he played, he was as good as the season before which happened to be his best statistically.
Buss has the money. Unlike a lot of owners, hes willing to poney up to win. With those wins come multiple years deep in the playoffs and millions in revenue. If Dr. Buss is willy to pay the luxury tax... I am most willing to let him. Those years to come you speak of will be spent garnering championships.
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...s_with_lakers/Lamar Odom will re-sign with the Los Angeles Lakers, coming to terms on a $40 million contract over four years, according to sources close to the forward.
The deal will likely be consummated when owner Dr. Jerry Buss returns from vacation in Hawaii.
Can't argue with you on that Phila. Lamar produced enough this season to justify all this fanfare for him. It wasn't long ago (umm, '08)) that a huge chunk of my beloved Laker fan base wanted Lamar O-U-T. And when I say OUT, I MEAN get him on the next train out of here. Archived threads at LG.net will substantiate this.
With that said, as a owner you always want to win NOW.
Hopefully we see the fruits of this next year.![]()
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