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    he tends to speak pretty diligently despite knowing the facts. i guess he found it right to meddle in this situation.



    do as i say not as i do..............

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    (CNN) -- President Obama said that police in Cambridge, Massachusetts, "acted stupidly" in arresting a prominent black Harvard professor last week after a confrontation at the man's home.




    "I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played," Obama said Wednesday night while taking questions after a White House news conference.
    Cambridge authorities dropped disorderly conduct charges against Henry Louis Gates Jr. on Tuesday.
    Obama defended Gates on Wednesday night, while admitting that he may be "a little biased," because Gates is a friend.
    "But I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry; No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and, No. 3 ... that there's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."
    The incident, Obama said, shows "how race remains a factor in this society." Watch the president address the incident »
    The mayor of Cambridge said she is going to meet with the city's police chief to make sure the scenario that caused Gates' arrest does not happen again.
    "This suggests that something happened that should not have happened," Mayor E. Denise Simmons said on CNN's "American Morning." "The situation is certainly unfortunate. This can't happen again in Cambridge." Watch how the mayor plans to handle the situation »
    Gates said Simmons called him to apologize.
    He told CNN on Wednesday that although charges had been dropped, he will keep the issue alive.
    "This is not about me; this is about the vulnerability of black men in America," Gates told CNN's Soledad O'Brien. Have race relations improved since Obama's election?
    Gates said he'd be prepared to forgive the arresting officer "if he told the truth" about what the director of Harvard's W.E.B. Du Bois Ins ute for African and African American Research said were "fabrications" in the police report.


    The officer, Sgt. James Crowley, told CNN affiliate WCVB earlier Wednesday that he will not apologize.
    "There are not many certainties in life, but it is for certain that Sgt. Crowley will not be apologizing," he said.
    Gates said the mayor of Cambridge, Massachusetts, called him to apologize about the incident, in which he was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct. Watch Gates talk about his arrest »
    CNN could not confirm Wednesday night that an apology was made. Cambridge Mayor E. Denise Simmons did not respond to requests by CNN for comment.
    Crowley wrote in the Cambridge police report that Gates refused to step outside to speak with him, the police report said, and when Crowley told Gates that he was investigating a possible break-in, Gates opened the front door and exclaimed, "Why, because I'm a black man in America?" the report said. Was the professor profiled? »
    The report said Gates initially refused to show the officer identification, but eventually produced a Harvard identification card, prompting Crowley to radio for Harvard University Police.
    "While I was led to believe that Gates was lawfully in the residence, I was quite surprised and confused with the behavior he exhibited toward me," Crowley said, according to the report.
    Gates was arrested for "loud and tumultuous behavior in a public space" and was released from police custody after spending four hours at the police station.
    He said Wednesday that he and his lawyers were considering further actions, not excluding a lawsuit.




    Gates said that although the ordeal had upset him, "I would do the same thing exactly again."
    Earlier this week, a prosecutor dropped the charge against Gates and the city's police department recommended that the matter not be pursued.

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    Dude was a to a cop and got clowned on his own property.

    I had some sympathy for him until I read the police report.

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    Cop coulda certainly handled it better, but so could the Professor, but if it was a white dude, right or wrong, we wouldn't be hearing about the arrest...'

    , I have a buddy who got his motorcycle confiscated from him the other day, cause they thought it was stolen (it wasn't), and he didn't make a huge scene. The cops wouldn't even give him a ride home...

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    yeah, I first thought the cops were in the wrong completely... but now it seems like they actually went by the book...

    gates just wants to further his agenda

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    Apparently those cops don’t watch the same Home Security commercials that I see. It’s always a white guy in a watch cap breaking into peoples homes.

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    I would like to know why none of the articles I've read have contained any quotes from Ms. Lucia Whalen, who was the witness to the whole escapade. It seems fishy to me that no one would attempt to get her quote on the situation, unless perhaps it turns out that the media is unbiased, and wants to make this look worse towards the police than it is.

    By the way, the police report is located here (http://www.samefacts.com/archives/Po...s%20arrest.PDF). Its interesting reading.

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    I think they have policies where only a female officer can search/frisk a female suspect (because of possible sexual assault allegations).


    I wonder if there will come a day when the police have to call on a black officer to question, search, etc. a black suspect.

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    I think they have policies where only a female officer can search/frisk a female suspect (because of possible sexual assault allegations).


    I wonder if there will come a day when the police have to call on a black officer to question, search, etc. a black suspect.
    truth is stranger than fiction

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    I don't know about this. If somebody arrests me at my home, they better have a DAMN good reason too. Not too mention, it is the law he had to step out of his house to get arrested for something like that. I really doubt the validity of the police report. It sounds like a cop acting on pure emotions.

    Did you read the statement of fellow officer, Carlos Figeroa?

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    I think they have policies where only a female officer can search/frisk a female suspect (because of possible sexual assault allegations).


    I wonder if there will come a day when the police have to call on a black officer to question, search, etc. a black suspect.
    From there, they are going to have to ask permission from the suspect to actually arrest them.

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    I think Obama should had remained neutral on the matter until he found out the REAL facts. Like "I don't know the full details yet or something" He also shouldn't had bought up the race card imo either.

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    I think Obama should had remained neutral on the matter until he found out the REAL facts. Like "I don't know the full details yet or something" He also shouldn't had bought up the race card imo either.

    And was this story even important enough to be discussed in a presidential press conference? I thought the whole thing was a bit odd.

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    And was this story even important enough to be discussed in a presidential press conference? I thought the whole thing was a bit odd.


    Yeah I thought he was supposed to had been fielding questions on health care?

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    And was this story even important enough to be discussed in a presidential press conference? I thought the whole thing was a bit odd.
    It seemed awfully rehearsed to me. He even nearly passed over another reporter to get to her . . . then realized his mistake, let the passed over reporter ask his question, and answered it in, like, fifteen seconds . . . and then moved on because he wanted time to answer her question about Gates.

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    Dude was a to a cop and got clowned on his own property.

    I had some sympathy for him until I read the police report.
    keywords: POLICE report

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    Oh, obviously the police are the most evil, lying people ever. A man could never get mad and yell and scream at them for an extended period of time.

    They have a witness to the entire event in Ms. Lucia Mahen, don't you think that if it happened differently, she would have stepped forward in the media by now?

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    Officer says he'll 'never apologize' for Harvard professor arrest
    (CNN) -- A Cambridge, Massachusetts, police officer said Thursday he will "never apologize" about how he handled the arrest of prominent black Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr.


    Sgt. Jim Crowley said he has nothing to apologize for in regards to the arrest of Henry Louis Gates Jr.
    "That apology will never come from me as Jim Crowley, it won't come from me as sergeant in the Cambridge Police Department," Sgt. James Crowley told Boston radio station WEEI. "Whatever anybody else chooses to do in the name of the city of Cambridge or the Cambridge Police Department which are beyond my control, I don't worry about that. I know what I did was right. I have nothing to apologize for."

    Crowley also said he was exercising caution and is clearly not a racist based on his previous actions.

    Those actions, Crowley told the Boston Herald, include giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation to former Boston Celtics star Reggie Lewis, who suffered a fatal heart attack in 1993 at Brandeis University when Crowley was a campus cop.

    "I wasn't working on Reggie Lewis the basketball star. I wasn't working on a black man," Crowley told the Boston Herald. "I was working on another human being."

    Gates was arrested last week at his home after a confrontation with Crowley. Cambridge authorities on Tuesday dropped disorderly conduct charges against Gates.

    Crowley also told WEEI that when he asked Gates to come out of his home, he thought a break-in had occurred or was still happening.

    "I didn't know who [Gates] was. I was by myself. I was the only police officer standing there, and I got a report of people breaking into a house," Crowley told WEEI. "That was for my safety first and foremost. I have to go home at night, I have three beautiful children and a wife who depend on me. So I had no other motive than to ensure my safety."

    Responding to a reporter's question on Gates' arrest, President Obama said Wednesday night that the Cambridge police "acted stupidly."

    Obama defended Gates while admitting that he may be "a little biased" because the professor is his friend.

    "But I think it's fair to say, No. 1, any of us would be pretty angry; No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and, No. 3 ... that there's a long history in this country of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."

    The incident shows "how race remains a factor in this society," Obama said.


    Crowley told WEEI that he was "disappointed" that Obama interjected himself into the situation.

    "He's the president of the United States, and I support the president to a point," Crowley told WEEI. "I think it's disappointing that he waded into what should be a local issue and something that is -- really that plays out here. As he himself had said at the beginning of that press conference, he didn't know all the facts. He certainly doesn't based on those comments. I just think it was very disappointing."

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    lol yes, but still...I'm more inclined to take the word of a policeman over an enraged race baiting gentleman.

    Homeboy needs some balls to lie on a police report that might be taken into court against a Harvard Law prof. friends with the president.

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    The plot thickens!

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

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    On the plus side, at least we have a post-racial president.

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    Dude, I gotta say, if a cop comes to arrest me in my house, I'd be pretty pissed off too. Especially if it's for being drunk and disorderly in a public place... when I'm in my home.

    I mean, if I tell the officer that I'm the owner of the house, and he doesn't believe me and he's worried about a break-in, I'd get my ID. But does the cop REALLY think the robber has the cojones to break in, and then act like he's the owner of the place?

    If you're in your house, I think you should be allowed to be disorderly

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    President Al Sharpton
    Never happen. Too many people hate race-baiters.

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    thing is, according to the police report, he didn't do that. decided to be an ass instead. bravo for the cop standing his ground. if he gets fired i can guarantee he will have plenty of other offers. stupid thing for the president to say despite knowing all the facts. no wonder he "decided" not to pursue law after he got his degree.

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    thing is, according to the police report, he didn't do that. decided to be an ass instead. bravo for the cop standing his ground. if he gets fired i can guarantee he will have plenty of other offers. stupid thing for the president to say despite knowing all the facts. no wonder he "decided" not to pursue law after he got his degree.


    I think the officer is right. And I'm not just saying that because I am one. But the officers reluctance to give an apology just tells me in my gut that the guy must had done something to get himself arrested.

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    thing is, according to the police report, he didn't do that. decided to be an ass instead. bravo for the cop standing his ground. if he gets fired i can guarantee he will have plenty of other offers. stupid thing for the president to say despite knowing all the facts. no wonder he "decided" not to pursue law after he got his degree.
    That is if the police report is accurate. Like I said, without being there, hard to make a valid assessment.

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    I think the officer is right. And I'm not just saying that because I am one. But the officers reluctance to give an apology just tells me in my gut that the guy must had done something to get himself arrested.
    I would tend to believe that myself. It seems that the friend of Obama are instigators of racial actions anyway. I just wouldn't bet anything of value on it.

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