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    Well we can debate this issue all day, and anyone on Jackson's side can be wrong if they wish, but mathematically, Ginobili is at least 4 times better than Jack.



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    Amen brother, go back and look at some of the the Gino highlights, what a stud!

    Question though, once again, is it worth it to have Manu + Jack in 2009, then only Jack and no Manu from 2010-2012, due to inability to afford Manu contract after this year?

    We would be the clear favorite with the addition of Jax for some of our lesser players. An NBA le in 2009, then Jax instead of Manu from 2010 on through 2012? Hmmm.....

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    I think I'm superior, but not because of the post count.

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    I think I'm superior, but not because of the post count.

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    large irritating pictures in my profile? I don't have any pictures in my profile..thanks though. No one thinks we're superior, bag...we just think it's ignorant to take a guy like Manu, who is a penetrator, exactly what the Spurs need, and trade him away for a guy who jacks up shots, exactly what the Spurs DON'T need. I know everybody gets a hard on for Jax, and he's a great player..but we need someone who can get in the paint..Tony can't do it all by himself. Manu is a clutch player, and is a catalyst for this team...everyone knows that with a healthy Manu, we are a contender..if he's not healthy, we're in trouble. So why would we give that player up? And for someone who's going around telling everyone to stop being rude to people, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I never said one rude thing to you, and yet you feel the need to bash my posting. If you're going to start a thread in a message board, you have to learn to expect that not EVERYONE is going to LOVE your ideas, and because it's a message board, they are going to let you know how they feel. If you're gonna be a whiney little girl about it, don't start them in the first place. You already posted this in another thread, and nobody responded to it. This should give you an idea that nobody wanted to talk about it. In turn, posting it as it's own thread turns you into a . Then you tell everyone to get off their high horse, when in reality, you telling everyone what they need to do is getting on YOUR high horse. So please...stop doing what you want everyone else to stop doing.
    I agree 100% about Manu's worth and appreciate your comments you head. Unfortunate that we have to cuss each other out to have an "intelligent" discussion but whatever it takes. All these cliches about trolls and whiny girls, that is a bit tiresome but OK. It is not rude to defend myself against an unjustified attack in my opinion. Thank you for allowing me to shame you into removing those pictures, they are clearly present in the post I quoted and damn sure were irritating. Maybe you will succeed in permanently erasing them, but I am sure others know what I am talking about. So I hope you can get them permanently erased, that is the clutter on here that is far more irritating than any duplicate threads.

    What about trading our 2010-12 future for S Jax over Manu, so that 2009 might be a "lock" for a le? To me that is a hard question.

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    Amen brother, go back and look at some of the the Gino highlights, what a stud!

    Question though, once again, is it worth it to have Manu + Jack in 2009, then only Jack and no Manu from 2010-2012, due to inability to afford Manu contract after this year?

    We would be the clear favorite with the addition of Jax for some of our lesser players. An NBA le in 2009, then Jax instead of Manu from 2010 on through 2012? Hmmm.....

    Somehow that assumes that the FO will not resign Manu, and that is asinine. The only way Manu is not re-signed is if he becomes physically unable to play, the Spurs go bankrupt or Manu comes up with a bad case of Iwanttoplayinternationalbasketballitis. If the first happens, then the Spurs will cross that bridge when they come to it, if the second happens, they can't even afford Jack, and if the third happens then something really bad happened between TimmyD, Pop and Manu, and it probably started when someone said something about Stephen Jackson coming back to the Spurs.

    I won't argue that if you can get Jackson for Finley, Bonner, et al, then you do it...but only if you can afford it long term, and only if you think that he can fit in as the 4th, 5th or 6th option. But never in lieu of Manu...

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    I think I'm superior, but not because of the post count.
    Well I don't think in those better or worse poster terms, this is not a compe ion to me, its a discussion board about our favorite NBA team.

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    WTF...is this 'every re can start their own thread' day at Spurstalk???


    Damn.......

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    I agree 100% about Manu's worth and appreciate your comments you head. Unfortunate that we have to cuss each other out to have an "intelligent" discussion but whatever it takes. All these cliches about trolls and whiny girls, that is a bit tiresome but OK. It is not rude to defend myself against an unjustified attack in my opinion. Thank you for allowing me to shame you into removing those pictures, they are clearly present in the post I quoted and damn sure were irritating. Maybe you will succeed in permanently erasing them, but I am sure others know what I am talking about. So I hope you can get them permanently erased, that is the clutter on here that is far more irritating than any duplicate threads.

    What about trading our 2010-12 future for S Jax over Manu, so that 2009 might be a "lock" for a le? To me that is a hard question.
    OK..here we go again..I didn't insult you..and I refuse to stoop to your level to do so. I didn't remove any pictures...if you're talking about the pictures on my sig, they will remain, just like everyone else's. They don't show up on every post in a thread...I will not delete them. If you have a problem with a picture of me and my wife in Jamaica, Roy Williams, The Spurs, and The Cowboys, don't read my posts...period. Your sig is supposed to be something that means something to you. If you don't want pictures in your sig, that's fine...but what you're doing is exactly what you're getting on other people for doing. You don't want people to bash your posts, yet you're bashing a sig? Come on dude...wake up and stop being hypocritical. No one has ever had a problem with my sig until you...and if you have a problem with people having opinions about threads you start, you don't need to be on a message board. Simple fact. If you put yourself out there and start a thread, people who disagree are going to let you know...that's part of being on a message board. If you want a bunch of yes men, you're on the wrong forum. And if you think SJax is going to be a better player after 2009 than Manu, that's fine..think that way..but it's still not what the Spurs need. We need a slasher...not a chucker.

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    Well I don't think in those better or worse poster terms, this is not a compe ion to me, its a discussion board about our favorite NBA team.
    Then maybe you should stop insulting people for having opinions or what pictures they have on their sig and start talking about said team.

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    WTF...is this 'every re can start their own thread' day at Spurstalk???


    Damn.......
    I know, right? Dude starts a thread displaying basketball ignorance, and then bashes everyone for bashing it. Hmm...then he says we shouldn't be bashing each other.....wait a minute.....KBP?!?!

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    OK..here we go again..I didn't insult you..and I refuse to stoop to your level to do so. I didn't remove any pictures...if you're talking about the pictures on my sig, they will remain, just like everyone else's. They don't show up on every post in a thread...I will not delete them. If you have a problem with a picture of me and my wife in Jamaica, Roy Williams, The Spurs, and The Cowboys, don't read my posts...period. Your sig is supposed to be something that means something to you. If you don't want pictures in your sig, that's fine...but what you're doing is exactly what you're getting on other people for doing. You don't want people to bash your posts, yet you're bashing a sig? Come on dude...wake up and stop being hypocritical. No one has ever had a problem with my sig until you...and if you have a problem with people having opinions about threads you start, you don't need to be on a message board. Simple fact. If you put yourself out there and start a thread, people who disagree are going to let you know...that's part of being on a message board. If you want a bunch of yes men, you're on the wrong forum. And if you think SJax is going to be a better player after 2009 than Manu, that's fine..think that way..but it's still not what the Spurs need. We need a slasher...not a chucker.
    You guys waste a lot of energy just to express a few good comments, sheesh. No I don't want to see your pictures, I'm not interested in your personal life at all. What is clutter is a matter of opinion. Bottom line is it is allowed though (pics), just like starting a thread is. I would never have even brought the pics up until you came after me, and don't deny it. Now get rid of those pictures, they suck!

    As far as debate and differing opinions, that is 200% fine with me, but the attacks for starting a thread are not, and we can spin this "hypocrite" allegation either direction.

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    S-Jax was cool, but Manu all the way.

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    Then maybe you should stop insulting people for having opinions or what pictures they have on their sig and start talking about said team.
    I didn't start this, I was attacked just for having the audacity to start a thread. That ain't right. There has been some decent discussion on here, despite the carnival side show.

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    No I don't want to see your pictures, I'm not interested in your personal life at all.
    You can turn of signatures in your control panel.

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    You guys waste a lot of energy just to express a few good comments, sheesh. No I don't want to see your pictures, I'm not interested in your personal life at all. What is clutter is a matter of opinion. Bottom line is it is allowed though (pics), just like starting a thread is. I would never have even brought the pics up until you came after me, and don't deny it. Now get rid of those pictures, they suck!

    As far as debate and differing opinions, that is 200% fine with me, but the attacks for starting a thread are not, and we can spin this "hypocrite" allegation either direction.
    I'll say it again..if you don't want to see the pictures..don't look. If you're anal about sigs, then once more, you're in the wrong place. People have a lot larger sigs than I do, and one person's shallow opinion isn't going to make me remove them. You're the first person in all the time I've had this sig that has a problem with it. I never attacked you...I said it was a stupid thread...you attacked me personally...I'm not the one getting up on my high horse telling everyone they need to stop bashing each other's posts, and then telling someone they need to take the pictures out of their sig because they suck. That's hypocritical. Now...go ahead and explain how I was hypocritical..can't wait to hear it.

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    I didn't start this, I was attacked just for having the audacity to start a thread. That ain't right. There has been some decent discussion on here, despite the carnival side show.
    You say this is supposed to be a forum about our favorite team, but the only thing you've discussed with me is my sig...that shows that you had no intentions of discussing our team. Your "feel sorry for me" routine isn't going to work. Some people on here have actual conversations with each other. THOSE people care about their personal lives. If you're not a part of it, that's fine. You can very simply turn sigs off and not have to see them, instead of bashing people for wanting to show what's important to them to people who they enjoy talking to.

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    its pretty easy to be a spurs fan longer than an argentine if youre older than 14
    That's the second time you try to goad urunobili by trying to insult Argies, which would work... if it wasn't for the fact that he is from ing URUGUAY!! Not that you'd know the difference, what with you being an ignorant and all.

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    URINEOBILI: I have an alternative suggestion. Anyone with more than 2000 posts should be banned & have to take 3 months off in rehab. URINEOBILE has posted an average of 200 times a day for 30 months. Get a life, wife, ho, full time 12 hour job, significant other or a dog. Instead of 1000 posts as the standard, why don't we all submit our SAT scores and sexual orientation. Thank God for the First Amendment!

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    The first amendment doesn't apply to the moderation of private message boards.

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    Manu over Jax any day of the week and twice on Sunday

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    You can turn of signatures in your control panel.
    Thanks. The ones that suck are the ones that cause the scroll wheel not to work because they are too big to fit in the frame. So I am scrolling down and then have to click and drag on account of some BS I don't care about. Right up there with the pop up ad to me.

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    You say this is supposed to be a forum about our favorite team, but the only thing you've discussed with me is my sig...that shows that you had no intentions of discussing our team. Your "feel sorry for me" routine isn't going to work. Some people on here have actual conversations with each other. THOSE people care about their personal lives. If you're not a part of it, that's fine. You can very simply turn sigs off and not have to see them, instead of bashing people for wanting to show what's important to them to people who they enjoy talking to.
    I don't want or need any sympathy. Simply stating a fact, start a thread and attacks came. I was in no mood and wasted no time firing back. All I ever wanted to do was talk about the topic, but I don't like being dissed either, who does? I do feel a little sorry for you being that sensitive about your signature line, so I'll apologize about that. I think you came in highly sarcastic at about the wrong time though, and my response was in line with that, nothing more. If you think my response was unwarranted than sorry about that, again I felt it about an even exchange and we have to be able to give and take to survive on here! I am not about denigrating you as a human being, or anyone else (other than perhaps uruginobili).

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    URINEOBILI: I have an alternative suggestion. Anyone with more than 2000 posts should be banned & have to take 3 months off in rehab. URINEOBILE has posted an average of 200 times a day for 30 months. Get a life, wife, ho, full time 12 hour job, significant other or a dog. Instead of 1000 posts as the standard, why don't we all submit our SAT scores and sexual orientation. Thank God for the First Amendment!
    Right on. Sometimes thousands of posts is a sign of trouble! This reminds me of the old Doctor Seuss story of the Sneetches, can't we all just get along? (no)

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    Why is there 20 million threads on Stephen Jackson? And why are threads like this allowed?

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    I don't want or need any sympathy. Simply stating a fact, start a thread and attacks came. I was in no mood and wasted no time firing back. All I ever wanted to do was talk about the topic, but I don't like being dissed either, who does? I do feel a little sorry for you being that sensitive about your signature line, so I'll apologize about that. I think you came in highly sarcastic at about the wrong time though, and my response was in line with that, nothing more. If you think my response was unwarranted than sorry about that, again I felt it about an even exchange and we have to be able to give and take to survive on here! I am not about denigrating you as a human being, or anyone else (other than perhaps uruginobili).
    lol...not about denigrating me...calling me a head? What is that? I'm not sensitive about my signature..just don't think anyone has the right to tell me what I can and cannot do, when I am allowed to put what I want in it. Once more, if you don't like them, you can always select to disable them. Apology accepted....and if you're upset, I apologize as well.

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