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    it is always easier to be perfect when one is not in a situation that someone else had to endure.

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    When all the information has come forward and if it appears that Mr. Gates is at fault, don't you think he has done a serious misservice to minorities who have legitimate cases against the police?


    Kinda like the whole Duke lacrosse fiasco?
    Absolutely. You hear REAL stories of racial profiling all the time. The only thing Gates and Obama did was cause resentment. Its political dynamite for Obama and, mark my words, we will see him apologize for it.

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    Says who? I think Gates' punishment was fair. Let the guy chill out and think about what a clown he's being.
    So, says you.

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    Now that's racism.
    as an old white man, i can say that would not have happened to me in that neighborhood.

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    Absolutely. You hear REAL stories of racial profiling all the time. The only thing Gates and Obama did was cause resentment. Its political dynamite for Obama and, mark my words, we will see him apologize for it.
    Obama never said there was any racial motivation.

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    I can blame him.

    Just leave. Your job is done. Staying won't help anything.

    Just leave.

    He showed ID. Nothing else was necessary for the investigation.

    They were done with the investigation.

    Just leave.

    He showed a Harvard ID with no address etc. So he called Harvard police. He was leaving but Gates decided he wanted to mouth off some more and the cop decided "enough was enough".

    You leave.

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    here is something we can all agree with.

    in these cir stances, it pays to be white.

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    Obama never said there was any racial motivation.
    He certainly implied it. He said that the cops acted stupidly since they arrested a guy after proving he lived there (he, like you , obviously didnt read the police report....its in the first post of this thread) and then proceeded to talk about the history of racial profiling in the US.

    Obama implied that the cops couldnt arrest Gates for burglary, so they arrested him for disorderly conduct since he was black.

    He'll apologize. Mark. My. Words. This is the same thing as the Wright situation. He'll tip-toe around it (see third video in original post), but eventually he'll apologize to make it finally go away.

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    this really comes down to an educated harvard man stating a "you do not know who i am" (the same thing that any number of black or white professors would have done) and a cop saying " f you... i can still arrest you" and doing just that. add to that a strong mix of cultural tension and you have this current mess.

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    At some point, Gates crossed a line. Im not sure if it was "I'll see your momma on the porch" line or something else, but officer determined he was being disorderly
    you can beat the "rap" but not the ride.

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    He certainly implied it.
    Actually, he did not.
    He said that the cops acted stupidly since they arrested a guy after proving he lived there (he, like you , obviously didnt read the police report....its in the first post of this thread) and then proceeded to talk about the history of racial profiling in the US.
    They did act stupidly.

    Obama implied that the cops couldnt arrest Gates for burglary, so they arrested him for disorderly conduct since he was black.
    You inferred that because, well, you aren't that smart.

    He'll apologize. Mark. My. Words. This is the same thing as the Wright situation. He'll tip-toe around it (see third video in original post), but eventually he'll apologize to make it finally go away.
    Such drama.

    He doesn't really have anything to apologize for except making an less than artful connection, but people like you like to latch onto these things to distract from any real issues facing this country. I see him going down the clarification route and perhaps giving the nonapology-apology.

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    where's radio raheem when you need him?

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    On the subject of what Obama said, as much as I think he's right its a ing ridiculously stupid thing to say. Why the are you even addressing a local issue like that? Just because he's your friend? Probably one of the least presidential moments he's had in office so far and incredibly bad timing for it. That being said, no one expected him to go four years without saying stupid things from time to time. I hope he learns from this.

    truth


    In Obama's defense though, why the was he even asked about it?

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    where's radio raheem when you need him?
    the cops killed him.

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    Everyone: stop saying he was arrested for being rude to a police officer in his house.

    Please read the police report and think about the fact that there were many witnesses to Gates being disorderly outside his house.
    Did any of them complain, or did police just decide to arrest Gates for being too loud in his own front yard?

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    Did any of them complain, or did police just decide to arrest Gates for being too loud in his own front yard?
    sound like it. disorderly conduct in your own yard.

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    Did any of them complain, or did police just decide to arrest Gates for being too loud in his own front yard?
    How long until the cop is running for Congress or making repeat guest appearances on Fox News?

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    How long until the cop is running for Congress or making repeat guest appearances on Fox News?

    A police officer pissed off a good friend of the most powerful man on Earth. I'd say the police officer is ed.

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    I've been involved in numerous knock down drag out fights with ex wives that have resulted in the cops being called. Had parties some with legal substances and some parties that weren't so legal where the cops have shown up. Never been arrested. However I'm not black.

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    I've been involved in numerous knock down drag out fights with ex wives that have resulted in the cops being called. Had parties some with legal substances and some parties that weren't so legal where the cops have shown up. Never been arrested. However I'm not black.
    were you an ass to the cop or did you do what the cop said?

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    This is a perfect example of why conservatism is headed towards permanent electoral loser status. It may shock the Yannis and Water Closets of the world but non-white citizens tend just as much as white ones to be conservative. The difference is that the Cobra Commanders and Plagiarizers who think they are libertarian minded conservatives end up turning political conservatism into an authoritarian movement with a thinly disguised disdain for non-whites.

    Jefferson thought spilling a little blood once in a while in revolution against the state was good for liberty. Cobra Commander would think that means that every day cops should pick up black men off the street and execute them.

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    A police officer pissed off a good friend of the most powerful man on Earth. I'd say the police officer is ed.
    I'd say he's going to have opportunities and income he would never have had otherwise if he chooses that route.

    He is far from ed.

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    were you an ass to the cop or did you do what the cop said?
    Do you know who the you're talking to?

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    Do you know who the you're talking to?

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    This is a perfect example of why conservatism is headed towards permanent electoral loser status. It may shock the Yannis and Water Closets of the world but non-white citizens tend just as much as white ones to be conservative. The difference is that the Cobra Commanders and Plagiarizers who think they are libertarian minded conservatives end up turning political conservatism into an authoritarian movement with a thinly disguised disdain for non-whites.

    Jefferson thought spilling a little blood once in a while in revolution against the state was good for liberty. Cobra Commander would think that means that every day cops should pick up black men off the street and execute them.

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