Stein: Odds still favor Odom's returning to fold

[Mr. Body]

Don't talk about LA failing to repeat. SA has never even gotten to the finals the season after a le.

I'd take the Spurs' spotty post-Championship records over the disasters of Detroit smacking LA around like little es in '04 and Boston smacking LA around like little es in '08.

For my money those are two of the worst finals performances of the modern era. Just laugh-out-loud inept. (I expect them to return to form.)

The sad thing about our knob-gobbling fame-obsessed media-driven society is these massive failures of supposedly great teams gets brushed under the carpet in favor of the usual lousy hagiographies. Point in fact: the New York Yankees executed the most miserable championship series collapse, losing four games in a row after leading 3-0 a few years ago against Boston, yet you never hear about it.

Same with LA. They got their asses smoked.

[Allanon]

Starting 5

Derek Fisher <<<Tony Parker

Kobe >>>>Roger Mason

R. Artest ==== Richard J

Tim Duncan >>>>Gasol

Bynum === Antonio. M (both 10 and 10 guys)

The Kobe >>>> Mason and Dunca >>>> Gasol comparison is off. I think the gap between Duncan/Gasol is much smaller than between Kobe and Mason.

Bynum put up 14 points last year. If he keeps improving at his pace, he should be at 16 points and 10 rebounds this year while being Top10 in Blocks. And that's a conservative improvement.

People are already saying that Bynum is the 3rd best Center in the NBA with Yao out. If Shaq shows more signs of aging while Bynum keeps on improving, he's gonna be #2 Center next year.

Bynum >>> McDyess

[Dunc n Dave]

The Kobe >>>> Mason and Dunca >>>> Gasol comparison is off. I think the gap between Duncan/Gasol is much smaller than between Kobe and Mason.

Bynum put up 14 points last year. If he keeps improving at his pace, he should be at 16 points and 10 rebounds this year while being Top10 in Blocks. And that's a conservative improvement.

People are already saying that Bynum is the 3rd best Center in the NBA with Yao out. If Shaq shows more signs of aging while Bynum keeps on improving, he's gonna be #2 Center next year.

Bynum >>> McDyess

Not even close. Bynum>>>>McDyess

And on Offense Jefferson>>>>Artest
but DEFENSIVELY Artest>>>>Jefferson

Not really fair to compare Kobe and Mason though, since we all know Manu will get the majority of the minutes in the playoffs.

Still, Kobe>Manu, can't deny that.

Healthiest team win the playoff series. Manu and Bynum are the health concerns for each team. Those guys will be the difference makers, if healthy.

[antgomez2009]

The Kobe >>>> Mason and Dunca >>>> Gasol comparison is off. I think the gap between Duncan/Gasol is much smaller than between Kobe and Mason.

Bynum put up 14 points last year. If he keeps improving at his pace, he should be at 16 points and 10 rebounds this year while being Top10 in Blocks. And that's a conservative improvement.

People are already saying that Bynum is the 3rd best Center in the NBA with Yao out. If Shaq shows more signs of aging while Bynum keeps on improving, he's gonna be #2 Center next year.

Bynum >>> McDyess

Well the last time i checked!!!

McDyess owned the laker squad while playing with a Poor Detriots team!!!

So, that 16 and 10 you say he might be able to get might be the other way around when they play the spurs......McDyess 16 and 10.....Bynum 10 and 10.....+6 ...check it out



http://www.nba.com/games/20090326/LALDET/boxscore.html

Granted Bynum was hurt!!!...so im guessing he went against Gasol!!!

and still did better!!!!

All in all its still mutual between both of them, and :wgaf: "proclaimed to be the Number 3 center" There are only like 6 good centers in the league anyways!!

Look, dont be in denial!!!! And if your a fan of basketball, you know that the Spurs got tougher this off season, and What better then a matchup between two powerhouse teams like the Spurs and Lakers!!! 2 of the most dominating teams of this Era!!!...Well i dont know about you, but im pretty dam Excited!!...

[tmtcsc]

...and someday you will wake up next to a piece of ass like in your avatar. It's nice to dream isn't it?

It isn't a dream. You won it all and deserve props for it. I just know that a healthy Spurs team can beat a healthy Lakers team.

Your Lakers squad is not untouchable. If you have to rely on Lamar Odom and Artest to win, then your days of being on top are coming to an end.

[DPG21920]

WTF Odom. Just tuck tail and sign with the Lakers already for less guaranteed money than they first offered you.

[Tradition]

Seriously Lamar Odom for taking this god damn long to make a decision. That son of a is acting like he is some ing superstar. him. You ing piece of just resign already. JUST RESIGN ALREADY YOU !

you odom for making this offseason anything but enjoyable. I ing hate you for that you son of a . God im sick of this already.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Seriously Lamar Odom for taking this god damn long to make a decision. That son of a is acting like he is some ing superstar. him. You ing piece of just resign already. JUST RESIGN ALREADY YOU !

you odom for making this offseason anything but enjoyable. I ing hate you for that you son of a . God im sick of this already.

So tell us how you really feel.

[tmtcsc]

Lamar is a moron if he doesn't sign back with the Lakers. Less money and less likely to win in Miami. Lakers would lose some chemistry factor but that's it. They'd be crazy to over pay for him.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Lamar is a moron if he doesn't sign back with the Lakers. Less money and less likely to win in Miami. Lakers would lose some chemistry factor but that's it. They'd be crazy to over pay for him.

It feels strange to quote myself, but I posted this in another thread:

The "taking less money" argument has been thrown around a lot, but I have yet to see any proof to this. The offer that the Lakers had on the table was a 4yr/$36M deal with the 4th year being a team option with a $3M buyout. That means that Odom is only truly guaranteed to make $30M over three years with the Lakers. Now it is speculated that Buss will offer less than that. All of the other offers that have been tossed around are only speculation, and many with knowledge refute most of them.

He would be guaranteed to make around $35M over five years with the Heat. He would also be able to start and perhaps make even more money by displaying his talent, since years 3, 4, or 5 of his Heat deal would likely have a player option. When you consider the money that he would save on cost of living and state income tax deference, I don't find that it is overwhelmingly evident that he would be sacrificing much money.

[KSeal]

Not really. Duncan is way better than Gasol. That is not even close. lol

I lol'd as well after reading what you wrote.