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you know what's su ious? the call said 2 black men......not one old black man that has to use a cane.
You think?he already left?
see, if they had been white, there wouldn't have been a call at all.
His door didn't work right, and was actually braking in to his own house. It was su ious. It was called in. Are you saying that a concerned citizen would ignore what looks like a white man breaking in to a house?
you know what's su ious? the call said 2 black men......not one old black man that has to use a cane.
True it's not illegal to behave like a . So that would make all like actions legal, why do we even have cops? My background is not in law enforcement, it's in healthcare. And in my field dangerous conduct is not limited to actual physical behavior. Irrational behavior (beligerence, extreme reactions, etc) are symptoms of an irrational person who might pose a danger to himself or others. We as citizens have a responsibility to behave rationally. Just because it's not in the cons ution is not an excuse. Yep it's all judgement calls, good or bad; but is there any real way to get around that?
i just heard gates interview.........this guy knew the cop was jacking him up.
I'll respond for you, WC. "It coulda been a rifle for all she knew."
Yeah, Gates blew it.
Silly Profe, thinking he had any right in his own front yard, to continue to criticize cops who investigated him in his own house, based on erroneous information.
The guy that posted earlier got it right, it was a display of power and a hint of racial superiority, nothing more.
When the dude in the house said 'do you know who I am?' and 'arresting me cause im black' the cop decided to show who really had the power through the arrest. It had nothing to do with him being loud, I bet that comment made the cop think 'oh no you didnt'.
I also find it laughable that you can arrest someone in their own house for anything outside assault/murder/theft, regardless of what law says.
Edit: these threads always remind me of that guy that liked cops searching cars for any reason
Yeah, "criticize" is a nice way of putting it. Do you now concede that he didn't have to follow the cop outside, and he only did so to scream at him and generally make a scene?
And your front yard is not your castle. Neither is your house. The law applies everywhere. If you break the law, tough .
exactly.
No.
There is no obligation to follow laws and ordinances. There are possible consequences if you don't, but that goes back to the officer's discretion.
wouldn't have happened to a white professor gates.
1) How was the officer supposed to know the person he viewed through the front door was the rightful resident?
2) If you create a disturbance and draw a crowd and, then, commit acts that could reasonably be construed to be offensive or disturbing to that assembled crowd, you can be arrested for disorderly conduct...even in your own front yard.
Professor Gates should have cooperated with the police, politely demonstrated he was in the house rightfully, let the police satisfy themselves there was nothing untoward occurring, thanked them, and let them go about their business.
So, this asshole is claiming "racial profiling." Would someone please explain to me exactly when that occurred?
I can't wait for the 911 and radio transmission tape to be released. It's going to be pretty embarrassing for Professor Gates.
Fair enough, we aren't obligated to follow laws. People shouldn't be so damned upset about the consequences of failing to follow those laws
Makes sense to me, but this is not the case here IMO. Getting too abstract is a danger.
Was Mr. Gates, based on your viewing of the video, a danger to himself or others?
Can you point to specific language/actions by Mr Gates that support your view, mrsm?
Guess the cops better start putting up cameras in my rooms and wiretap all my lines so they can bust me on the hundreds of dollars of software I copy each week in my own house. Plus I might do something outrageous like plant an illegal drug in a small pot, we don't want that.
listen, i think you're too biased to post in this thread.
Why do you say that?
If a police officer responds to a reported burglary in progress and views a person through the door who a) refuses to identify themselves, b) refuses to meet the officer in a safe environment (outside the house) to discuss the matter, and c) immediately launches into a tirade (over race or anything else), what would you expect the officer to do?
rapists confirm their innocence.
Really?
Do officers technically read you your rights when that happens?
Are you technically provided an attorney if you ask for one then?
So he could have just continued leaving, right?he was leaving. he was on the damn sidewalk and professor jackass decided to make a spectacle of himself. the cop warned him. professor jackass ignored him. he was arrested. job well done.
That would have been a job better done.
Luckily, what you think carries no weight.
Why was the inside of his house unsafe?
Was is acoustically unsafe?
Maybe I'm silly, but I would expect that if a cop suspected a burglary he would have his gun raised and be forcing the guy to the floor, not walking up and asking questions.
There were no legal consequences since the charges were dropped.Fair enough, we aren't obligated to follow laws. People shouldn't be so damned upset about the consequences of failing to follow those laws
It was a stupid arrest.
arrested and in custody are two different things.
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