Self-defense isnot enshrined in law outside of the castle doctrine in some areas. It must be proven in court as a legal defense if you are charged with homicide. It is only a right in theoretical texts. Likewise, homicide and manslaughter have no addendum pertaining to self-defense.
The most you can say is that it is case law. Common law provides for the castle doctrine. I haven't seen a case that determined self-defense as this is a common sense scenario where the law is not universal.
Yes i know. But I wasn't explaining why the cop did what he did. I was explaining why I had the opinion I expressed.
you know, i spent a month in el paso one day.
You're not understanding. The law is the law. Whether the law provides for a certain defense of justification or carves out certain exception is a different matter altogether.
Your house is not the United States of Sabar. You are subject to the laws and jurisdiction of---I'm guessing---the United States and the State of Texas.
No one said there was a crime.You'll have to reveal the underlying crime yourself, Yoni.
Good luck!
Pussy prosecutors. Cambridge is a hotbed for liberal pussies.
Sgt. Crowley and his commanders still contend he acted appropriately. I would assume that includes the arrest.
Well, well, well - the BLACK officer who also responded to the call said Officer Crowley did nothing wrong. It's not just the Cambrige PD who are standing behind Crowley, but Police all across the nation. Of course, the brilliant Robert Gates said it was no surprise that other officers are supporting Crowley because (gasp) the FOP endorsed John McCain.
Bottom line - Obama should've just kept his mouth shut and the story would've died quietly. But he never knows when to shut up - so now we have this huge fiasco.
We?
I think it's hilarious that President Teleprompter is an idiot.
why did the reporter even feel compelled to ask obama about the incident? would have a white president ever been asked this question?
you mean cops support cops? what a brilliant observation! are you a detective?
not that huge. wouldn't have happened at all if gates was white.Bottom line - Obama should've just kept his mouth shut and the story would've died quietly. But he never knows when to shut up - so now we have this huge fiasco.
Because the press conference to that point was putting everyone to sleep and she wanted to bait him into a controversy.
Worked.
Ding ding ding - we have a winner
actually i think all unions support union members. just take a look at how the baseball players union appeals a suspension whenever a player tests positive for a banned substance. it is just union reflex to always defend its members.
so it is about black or white. thanks for clearing that up.
Black cops don't support racist white cops.
Well, I doubt a white Harvard professor would have accused the officer of racial profiling but, there's no guarantee he wouldn't have been just as much of an asshole as this Gates guy...and, thus, no guarantee it wouldn't have happened if he was white.
There appears to be no racial motivation to this stupid arrest.
I lived in El Paso for a short stint when I was a prosecutor for the DA's office. I was glad to leave El Paso
I agree.
But, apparently, that position isn't universal. Professor Gates, for instance, disagrees with both you and I.
The question, then, is, did Professor Gates commit disorderly conduct. It's certainly debatable. I think the officer made a compelling argument that he did. His peers support that assertion. Mr. Gates, and others who weren't there, disagree.
like i said yoni, not the thread for you.
your right. it would have been more like "let me help you with this door, mr. gates.....thats what you said your name was, right?"Well, I doubt a white Harvard professor would have accused the officer of racial profiling but, there's no guarantee he wouldn't have been just as much of an asshole as this Gates guy...and, thus, no guarantee it wouldn't have happened if he was white.
"i can see you're having a hard time walking with that cane, why don't you sit down and relax while i have a look at this door."
Can we all agree, at least, that Obama acted stupidly?
I think we can.
I think there was no need to arrest Gates. All they had to do was leave.
You're not making sense.
Now who's profiling?
Your scenario suggests a cooperative white Professor Gates.
Si, se puede!
I think its pretty funny that the only ones bringing up race here are the ones against Gates. No one else in this thread is saying it was racially motivated. Of course they want to paint this as a situation where the race card is being drawn because its obviously not a racist situation.
We agree there was no racial motivation here so you can stop trying to make it an issue of contention.
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