He shows glimpses where he could dominate. He is already on a championship team; that is why he is hyped. If he were to be consistently dominate on an already dominate team, it would suck for everyone else.
If you did this, Bynum would be scoring 25+ points and Al Jefferson would only score 14.
Bynum gets <10 shots per game playing behind Kobe/Pau/Odom.
Al Jefferson gets most plays called for him and has the green light to shoot whenever he wants because he's the man. Bynum shooting percentage of 56% is a much higher percentage than Al.
Shoot, if Bynum got 20 shots per game and plays called for him, he'd be scoring 30 ponts per game.
all i know is when bynum and jefferson went at it bynum not only held his own but played him well
Allanon, it is much easier to shoot a better percentage when other teams are not keying in on stopping you and you have other threats to worry about.
Al's offense >>>Bynum's in any situation as of now.
Bynum is excellent. He's the reason why the Lakers and Blazers are going to be rivals for many more years. Not as good as Oden, but still very good.
for tlong to say a laker is equal to a blazer is like saying the laker is better
Bynum has shown flashes of being great, and he's shown flashes of being average..there's no other way to put it..he's been injured while being average or below average, and his sample size of being great is too small..
There's really no way to judge him right now..
There's no argument at all about his hype though..if he wasn't on the Lakers, he wouldn't have any hype, there isn't any doubt about that..
I disagree. He's 7-1 and very skilled. He'd be hyped regardless of his location.
Bynum completely outplayed Jefferson the last few games they played. AB is 4 times the defender at age 21 than Jefferson is and will ever be. Give Bynum 35 min and 17 shots a game he would be putting up 20/10+ on the T-Wolves with ease.
WTF is all this absolute bull about him being ANYWHERE NEAR as good as Duncan? haha this is an EXACT example proving that this thread is right! He's overrated as for no reason!
Lets make it clear to the dumbass laker fans here... Bynum hasnt, nor will he ever, be in the same ing conversation as TD.
And Yao completely outplayed DHoward every matchup...whats your point?
Big Al is many times the player bynum can ever hope to be, but you're right his defense is of suspect.
damn..Bynum and Duncan playing side by side..that would be a sight to see.
This has been brought up alot DPG. I dunno if it makes a difference to be honest.
When you're good, it doesn't matter as long as you're the main guy. Look at pretty much any of the best players on any team, they all get their points because plays are called for them, screens are set for them, etc.
Conversely, when players join other good players, their stats go down. Like KG, Pau Gasol, Shaq, etc. I think Bynum playing with Kobe/Pau/Odom actually lowers his points and rebounds since all of them can score and rebound. There ain't enough ball for Bynum to get more than 10 shots a game and their ain't enough rebounds when Kobe/Pau/Odom all shoot at a high percentage.
Players get their points even when the defense is keyed to stop them. Some of Kobe's best performances came off playing with Smush, Kwamay Brown and Luke Walton.
I believe this to be true.
Bynum's pwnage of Jefferson was well do ented in the in-game threads here at ST a few months back.
To those that think Al Jefferson is better than Bynum, all I have to say is you guys know jack about bball.
I was fortunate enough to have watched the great centers of the 80's to now, saw Hakeem, Drob, Ewing, O'neal, Duncan develop from college and on. And for the past 2 seasons before Bynum's injures he had more offensive skills than all of them when they were 20 and 21 years of age. They might have the edge on Bynum athletically, but at the same time besides Shaq, they weren't as big as Bynum. Roll back the tapes before Bynum's injures, and his quickness and jumping ability matches those greats. Bynum has one of the softest touches ever at his height and weight and he's only 21.
Alot of you guys are comparing Bynum to players who has been in the league longer and those who have already reached their primes, and even at that Bynum has outplayed most of them head to head. Go back to Duncan when he was 21, I bet there will be more people wanting Bynum over Duncan on their teams. There are only a handful of legit 7 feet+ 280+ big men in the league ever with the talent of Bynum.
Bynum has only played organized ball for a few years and is still growing into his body. Player like DHoward has been in organized ball since childhood and has probably tapped his max athletic ability, but Bynum hasn't developed fully physically yet and his game is already better than Dhowards on the offensive end. Defensively with more experience and conditioning Bynum has a chance to be dominating and offensively sky is the limit for him.
Go do a search on realgm and the respective teams fan forums after they have watched Bynum destroy their big men, before his injury and before the Gasol trade( meant Bynum got more touches).
Toronto fans would of given up Bosh + for Bynum but thought they had no chance.
Bucks' fans wished they had drafted Bynum over Bogut.
Pacers fans were laughing at their own gm for wanting Bynum for O'neil.
Suns brought in Shaq after Bynum destroyed Stoudamire, because they had no shot of stopping Bynum.
The list goes on and on, if not for the Gasol trade and for the injuries, you guys would be wishing him on your favorite teams. For god's sakes he is only 21 and still growing in every facet of his game and in height. Athletically he's getting more explosive and quicker but it's the freaking injuries that's slowing him down.
THERE'S A REASON WHY THE LAKER'S FRONT OFFICE CHOSE TO EXPLORE TRADING kOBE OVER TRADING BYNUM 2 YEARS AGO. ALL YOU BYNUM HATERS MUST OF BECAME BBALL FANS RIGHT BEFORE THE FINALS OR SOMETHING(Bynum wasn't healthy for the finals and the ing calls were horrendous against him).
Last edited by satria; 07-25-2009 at 02:38 AM.
Flawed from an efficiency standpoint. Pau's FG% skyrocketed going to LA and KG's likewise when he went to Boston... Kidd's 3-PT % has skyrocketed playing next to the best PF in the universe as well.
Kill yourself.
Ya I totally stopped reading after that sentence. Their are just too many flat-out-right dumb people on this forum, it's ridonk.
At a certain point, you have to realise that no matter how much, or how well you try and get your point accross, no matter how right it is, the other side just isnt going to change their stance, whether they're being stubborn or just dont choose to accept reality. When that point comes, just let it go.
+1. What a dumb .
What's he feeding that cow?
Or better yet they argue the gap between Kobe and Manu isn't that great much like these stupid ers believe Gasol is close to Duncan.
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