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    The word "separate" is used to separate racial profiling from this incident.

    As I said, it's easy for those who don't care to pay any attention to let their biases lead them to whatever conclusion they wish.

    The point is you didn't get it, so you want to make it about race as much as possible now. You are as bad as Gates.
    Obama is an idiot for even stepping into the issue. That's the real point...our President is stupid.

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    My god, are people here really offended by the Presidents comments? They were completely innocuous.

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    My god, are people here really offended by the Presidents comments? They were completely innocuous.
    Tell that to the Cambridge Police Officer he maligned.

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    Tell that to the Cambridge Police Officer he maligned.
    He said he acted stupidly.

    I agree.


    It was a stupid arrest.

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    He said he acted stupidly.

    I agree.
    Obama retracted the statement you're standing by.

    It was a stupid arrest.
    The only person, present at the scene, that says Gates wasn't being disorderly is Gates. His neighbors are even saying he was being a jackass. But, until they release the tapes, we just won't know how much of an asshole he was being. But, it's quite possible the tapes will reveal behavior that violate Massachusetts statutes regarding disorderly conduct.

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    Obama retracted the statement you're standing by.
    I have my own statement.

    It was a stupid arrest.

    The only person, present at the scene, that says Gates wasn't being disorderly is Gates. His neighbors are even saying he was being a jackass. But, until they release the tapes, we just won't know how much of an asshole he was being. But, it's quite possible the tapes will reveal behavior that violate Massachusetts statutes regarding disorderly conduct.
    I wouldn't doubt that.

    They still could have just left.

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    I have my own statement.

    It was a stupid arrest.
    Just as it was stupid for Obama to make that statement without all the facts, it is equally stupid for you.

    I wouldn't doubt that.

    They still could have just left.
    And, they could have arrested him...which they did.

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    Just as it was stupid for Obama to make that statement without all the facts, it is equally stupid for you.
    I have the police report. Are you accusing them of leaving something out?


    And, they could have arrested him...which they did.
    Which was stupid.

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    so, they arrested a guy when they didn't need to, and made a cop stick around just to watch a guy repair a door?

    see yoni, you shouldn't be in these threads.

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    so, they arrested a guy when they didn't need to, and made a cop stick around just to watch a guy repair a door?
    Because there were still potentially burglars inside and it was dangerous.[/yoni]

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    they did a disservice by not continuing the search for the other dangerous black man.

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    they did a disservice by not continuing the search for the other dangerous black man.
    That's what Yoni says.

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    why hasn't yoni volunteered to go search for the other dangerous black man?

    is it kinda like the yoni wanting to go to iraq thing?

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    Well according to the yoni, the police got out of the house because they believed it to be dangerous, but left the homeowner inside to his own devices, only offering to answer questions outside if he chose to follow.

    Once the policeman was safely outside he was convinced by the homeowner that the home was safe. It must have been when he said something about his mama.

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    Well according to the yoni, the police got out of the house because they believed it to be dangerous, but left the homeowner inside to his own devices, only offering to answer questions outside if he chose to follow.

    Once the policeman was safely outside he was convinced by the homeowner that the home was safe. It must have been when he said something about his mama.

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    Okay, for the slow people on the board.

    911 call stated ther were two black males breaking in a house.

    Sgt. Crowley responded.

    Contacts the complaintant.

    Approaches the house.

    Sees a black male through the door.

    Asks black male to come outside.

    Black male refuses.

    Officer enters the house and asks for ID.

    Black male refuses but, apparently, eventually gives him his Harvard ID during a litany of accusing the officer of racial profiling.

    Sometime in here the officer determines there's no burglary, just an asshole of an old man.

    Officer is trying to verify the iden y by radioing the dispatcher.

    Can't hear himself talk so, he starts to go outside.

    Asshole follows him, screaming and yelling about how the officer is a racist pig the whole way...says something about his mother.

    Officer warns the subject to stop creating a disturbance, listing in the report the elements of disorderly conduct the man is violating, or he will be arrested.

    Subject doesn't. Pretty much everyone at the scene says so.

    Subject is arrested.

    Officer helps the arrested subject get his house secured.

    Officer takes him to the station.

    Four hours later the charges are dropped and he is released.

    What'd I miss? At what point was the officer unreasonable?

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    You contradicted your earlier assertion that the officer left the house because it was dangerous.

    You know, the you made up.

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    Black officer at Gates home during arrest said scholar acted strange, supports arrest

    CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) — A black police officer who was at Henry Louis Gates Jr.'s home when the black Harvard scholar was arrested says he fully supports how his white fellow officer handled the situation.

    Sgt. Leon Lashley says Gates was probably tired and surprised when Sgt. James Crowley demanded identification from him as officers investigated a report of a burglary. Lashley says Gates' reaction to Crowley was "a little bit stranger than it should have been."

    Asked if Gates should have been arrested, Lashley said supported Crowley "100 percent."

    Gates has said he was the victim of racial profiling.

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    Officer enters the house and asks for ID

    Subject is arrested.

    Officer helps the arrested subject get his house secured

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    Something that's being overlooked is that this is just another example of racist company Obama keeps.

    Gates is in the mold of Jeremiah Wright.

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    So people should now be arrested for acting strange on their porches.

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    You contradicted your earlier assertion that the officer left the house because it was dangerous.

    You know, the you made up.
    The officer has stated he originally wanted Gates out of the house for safety reasons.

    I know I said that he wanted to leave the house because of safety reasons, I was wrong. I misspoke. Me being mistaken doesn't change what the officer said, though.

    I think my last post pretty much describes the sequence of events though. Unless I missed something or you want to obsess on my earlier mistake.

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    Something that's being overlooked
    Oh no, you are injecting race into the discussion every chance you get.

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    this has nothing to do with obama

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    So people should now be arrested for acting strange on their porches.
    I think the officer description of "strange" will be more evident once the tapes are heard.

    If he supports the arrest 100% it means he believes the elements of the charge were present.

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