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    this has nothing to do with obama
    That would be true if Obama had left the matter alone...but, he's an idiot.

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    The officer has stated he originally wanted Gates out of the house for safety reasons.
    You THE OFFICER wanted to leave for safety reasons.

    I know I said that he wanted to leave the house because of safety reasons, I was wrong. I misspoke. Me being mistaken doesn't change what the officer said, though.
    Your making up makes you worthless on a discussion board.

    I think my last post pretty much describes the sequence of events though. Unless I missed something or you want to obsess on my earlier mistake.
    I only point out that you make up because you make up so often.

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    Oh no, you are injecting race into the discussion every chance you get.
    Well, there's a pattern and, if it weren't for the racial elements of this story, there wouldn't be a story.

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    Well, there's a pattern.
    Yes, there is a pattern of your attempting to make just about every political issue about race on some level.

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    You THE OFFICER wanted to leave for safety reasons.
    The officer has said, in interviews, that when he arrived at the scene and observed the subject in the house, he asked him to step outside because he didn't know what was going on in the house and he was concerned for his safety.

    You're not following the story very closely.

    Your making up makes you worthless on a discussion board.

    I only point out that you make up because you make up so often.
    Let me know when you reach High School.

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    Yes, there is a pattern of your attempting to make just about every political issue about race on some level.
    This story is about race. Professor Gates and President Obama made it so. If it weren't for the racial element, we wouldn't be talking about it at all.

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    The officer has said, in interviews, that when he arrived at the scene and observed the subject in the house, he asked him to step outside because he didn't know what was going on in the house and he was concerned for his safety.

    You're not following the story very closely.
    Actually I followed your story more closely than you wanted.

    Sorry your made up sucks, dude.

    Let me know when you reach High School.
    Let me know when you stop making up.

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    This story is about race.
    And boy you are all over it, aren't you.

    To such an extent that you will make up to try to make a point that has nothing to do with race.

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    obama learned all that in the madrasa he went to

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    And boy you are all over it, aren't you.
    Because I was told this would be a post-racial presidency and it's been anything but.

    To such an extent that you will make up to try to make a point that has nothing to do with race.
    I didn't make it up, I was wrong. The record clearly disputes what I said. I've said I was wrong, I've corrected it here...what more do you want?

    Further, the next time anyone claims I never admit when I'm wrong, you can shut the up.

    The fact remains, Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct and, until we have a clear picture of how bad was his conduct, neither of us can say, for certain, the arrest was or wasn't warranted.

    What I can say, however, is that everyone at the scene, cop, non-cop, black, white or yellow (with the glaring example of Gates) says he was belligerent, or otherwise exhibiting behavior seemingly not congruent with the incident.

    Having been in that environment on many, many occassions, with white, black, hispanic, and vietnamese assholes...I can see where the officer made the right call.

    Now, you can go on and make this argument about what I did or didn't say or, you can get back to the incident...your choice.

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    Obama is a racist. What a surprise, and nominated another racist to the supreme court. The whole fiasco was embraced by the white house for one simple reason...it knocked the story that obamacare was being exposed as bull and that democrats were jumping ship. It gave the whitehouse time to regroup repackage,and strong arm the apostates without to much light being shined upon them.Red Herring.

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    Leave it to Yanni to find a way to make a black man out to be guilty, dangerous, communist, uncouth, and devoid of any civil rights. Your is boring and predictable, Bull Connor. GTFO.

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    You guys should really start a "Yonivore is a prick" thread and have at it.

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    Because I was told this would be a post-racial presidency and it's been anything but.


    I didn't make it up, I was wrong. The record clearly disputes what I said. I've said I was wrong, I've corrected it here...what more do you want?

    Further, the next time anyone claims I never admit when I'm wrong, you can shut the up.

    The fact remains, Gates was arrested for disorderly conduct and, until we have a clear picture of how bad was his conduct, neither of us can say, for certain, the arrest was or wasn't warranted.

    What I can say, however, is that everyone at the scene, cop, non-cop, black, white or yellow (with the glaring example of Gates) says he was belligerent, or otherwise exhibiting behavior seemingly not congruent with the incident.

    Having been in that environment on many, many occassions, with white, black, hispanic, and vietnamese assholes...I can see where the officer made the right call.

    Now, you can go on and make this argument about what I did or didn't say or, you can get back to the incident...your choice.
    I already did. You just never did anything to prove me wrong so you just started being wrong about dangerous acoustic kitchens.

    There was no real reason to arrest Gates. They should have just left.

    You have done nothing to show why he should have been arrested, cuffed, booked, and jailed for any amount of time.

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    Seriously, if he was yelling "These cops are awesome --especially the white guy! I would like to thank his mama!" from the porch at the same volume for the same amount of time, would they have arrested, transported, booked and jailed him?

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    Seriously, if he was yelling "These cops are awesome --especially the white guy! I would like to thank his mama!" from the porch at the same volume for the same amount of time, would they have arrested, transported, booked and jailed him?
    I'm waiting for the release of the tapes. I'm betting his conduct met the elements for the crime for which he was arrested.

    Neither of us will know until we hear it for ourselves...but, again, everyone else at the scene -- other police officers included -- tend to agree he was acting in a manner that did not match the cir stances and that it was belligerent and over the top.

    I don't think you and I are going to advance the argument either way from here.

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    I'm waiting for the release of the tapes. I'm betting his conduct met the elements for the crime for which he was arrested.
    So what if it did? The police didn't have to arrest, cuff, transport, book and jail him. Nothing good came from it.

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    So what if it did? The police didn't have to arrest, cuff, transport, book and jail him. Nothing good came from it.
    The incident ended and peace was restored to the neighborhood. That's good.

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    The incident ended. That's good.
    It could have ended with no arrest had they just left.

    That would have been better.

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    It could have ended with no arrest had they just left.

    That would have been better.
    The officer -- now supported by other officers on the scene -- decided otherwise.

    You weren't there.

    And, you don't know what might have happened if he hadn't been arrested. Unreasonable people do unreasonable things that sometime result in unexpected consequences.

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    The officer -- now supported by other officers on the scene -- decided otherwise.

    You weren't there.

    And, you don't know what might have happened if he hadn't been arrested. Unreasonable people do unreasonable things that sometime result in unexpected consequences.
    Right, The disabled old man could have gone nuts and killed everyone.

    An old man is yelling from his porch.

    He must be stopped at all costs.

    It's a matter of survival.

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    Right, The disabled old man could have gone nuts and killed everyone.

    An old man is yelling from his porch.

    He must be stopped at all costs.

    It's a matter of survival.
    Well, counter to your hyperbolizing, he was merely charged with disorderly conduct -- a crime that could be committed without going nuts and killing everyone and not necessarily a matter of survival.

    I'm not sure what you believe about law and order but, not every arrest is made on the premise it is preventing all out carnage. Sometimes, people breech the peace and, in doing so, they commit a crime known as disorderly conduct. This officer -- supported by others at the scene -- made a judgment to arrest Professor Gates for that crime.

    Reasonable people disagree on whether or not the arrest was warranted. Ultimately, charges were dropped. However, no one (except Gates) is accusing the officer of exceeding his authority, making a false arrest, or anything else of an ethical or criminal nature.

    You obviously disagree with the arrest. I don't think either of us have enough information on which to make that judgment; however, other police officers at the scene agree with the Sgt. and believe the arrest was justified.

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    Further, if Gates weren't a personal friend of the President's; hadn't made the ludicrous allegation of racial profiling; and, had the president not stepped into the fray uninformed, making idiotic statements about the actions of the police -- we wouldn't be talking about this at all.

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    Well, counter to your hyperbolizing, he was merely charged with disorderly conduct -- a crime that could be committed without going nuts and killing everyone and not necessarily a matter of survival.
    But you were saying it was such a dangerous situation that no one could tell what could happen unless he was stopped.

    I'm not sure what you believe about law and order but, not every arrest is made on the premise it is preventing all out carnage. Sometimes, people breech the peace and, in doing so, they commit a crime known as disorderly conduct. This officer -- supported by others at the scene -- made a judgment to arrest Professor Gates for that crime.
    Of course they did. Everyone could have died according to you.

    Reasonable people disagree on whether or not the arrest was warranted. Ultimately, charges were dropped. However, no one (except Gates) is accusing the officer of exceeding his authority, making a false arrest, or anything else of an ethical or criminal nature.
    He shouldn't have been arrested.

    You obviously disagree with the arrest. I don't think either of us have enough information on which to make that judgment; however, other police officers at the scene agree with the Sgt. and believe the arrest was justified.
    You obviously agree with the arrest. You took the police side because they said so and you thought everyone was going to die.

    If you don't want your hyperbole thrown back at you, don't use it yourself.

    Seriously, what would have happened had they not arrested him?

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    Further, if Gates weren't a personal friend of the President's; hadn't made the ludicrous allegation of racial profiling; and, had the president not stepped into the fray uninformed, making idiotic statements about the actions of the police -- we wouldn't be talking about this at all.
    Had he not been arrested, we wouldn't be talking about this at all.

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