No, I didn't. I said the potential was there that, being an unreasonable person acting unreasonably, there was a chance of an unfortunate consequence.
Nope. Never said that either.
You disagree, perfectly reasonable. None of the trained, certified, qualified, and informed police officers on the scene agree with you. You'll forgive me if I don't give your opinion much weight.
Yep, none of them have any reason to lie about the cir stances.
Nope; never said that.
Who's making stuff up now? I never said anything about everyone dying.
Seriously, neither you nor I know. The police officer making the arrest, and others on the scene agree, decided the arrest was the proper course of action. Who are we to second guess them?
I do know that, as a result of the arrest, the nonsense stopped and no one was harmed.
We wouldn't be talking about this even if he had been arrested but, decided not to make it a race issue and had the president not insinuated himself into the argument.
Trust me, there were a bunch of people arrested for disorderly conduct that day. His only made the news because of who he was and what he alleged...the president inflamed the issue with his stupid remark.
What unfortunate consequence? Spit it out.
I woiuld never expect a cop to admit fault or voluntarily curtail his or her ability to arrest people. Forgive me if I know you could never consider anything like that.You disagree, perfectly reasonable. None of the trained, certified, qualified, and informed police officers on the scene agree with you. You'll forgive me if I don't give your opinion much weight.
Then why did you accuse them of lying in their report?Yep, none of them have any reason to lie about the cir stances.
So now there was the threat of harm?I do know that, as a result of the arrest, the nonsense stopped and no one was harmed.
Funny, that's not in the report. I guess you can call the police liars again if you want to argue there was a chance of harm.
Trust me, had they not arrested him we wouldn't be talking about it.
And no one would have been harmed.
I have no idea. Maybe nothing...maybe something very unfortunate.
I don't hear anyone demanding the officer be charged with false arrest.
Okay, what else did I get wrong?
There's always the threat of harm when people are acting unreasonable in a highly emotionally charged situation. Sure.
They don't normally report things that didn't happen.
And the reason he was agitated was because a cop showed up on his property and was ordering him around. It's amusing how Yanni likes to pretend that Gates was just flipping out on his own. Actually, quite amusing considering that in any other similar scenario not involving a black man (who Yanni is scared of) and the current president, Yanni would be pontificating on the Texas castle doctrine, the importance of our cons utional liberties, and the components of his gun cabinet.
Maybe what?
Spit it out.
Quality straw man construction.I don't hear anyone demanding the officer be charged with false arrest.
You made up the fears of the policemen. Completely made them up. More than once.Okay, what else did I get wrong?
Like what?There's always the threat of harm when people are acting unreasonable in a highly emotionally charged situation. Sure.
They would have reported if they thought he was a threat to anyone.They don't normally report things that didn't happen.
They didn't. You are making that up.
Remember the old man who flipped out and shot a couple of illegals who robbed his neighbor's house in Houston a year or so ago? I don't believe Yanni was that dismissive of his civil rights...and that was his neighbor's house. Of course, it was two browns that old man bagged, so he was just a law abiding citizen. Shoot a darkie, you're a hero. Yell at a cop while being black on your property and you're a criminal.
The officer responded to a burglary in progress call and observed a person in the house. How was he to know if the person was there legitimately or not?
The man refused to come out of the house and, initially, refused to identify himself. This officer was merely trying to determine whether or not a crime was being committed and Professor Gates started the whole interaction in a confrontational manner.
Actually, no. I wouldn't care what race the asshole was. He responded to the officer, merely doing his job, in a manner that inflamed the situation and -- eventually -- led to his arrest.
The guy had a neighbor, concerned for his property, call the police about su ious activity. The police responded. The Professor met the police with insults and a lack of cooperation. What was his problem? I would think he should be grateful to the neighbor and the police but, instead, he flies off the handle.
So far we have a black man standing on his porch yelling.
That's it.
No threat of anything else. No hint of it.
So what?
He was done.
He should have just left.
How the should I know? I'm not inside that goofballl's head.
Just merely pointing out that no one is suggesting the arrest wasn't legitimate...just unwarranted.
No, I didn't. Sgt. Crowley stated in interviews that he wanted the man to come outside because he was concerned with his own safety.
Again, if I know. People have done all sorts of crazy -- intentionally and accidentally -- when they're in an unreasonably agitated state.
They arrested him instead.
At that point, the contact had just been initiated. So, you're suggesting that Professor Gates behavior should have convinced the officer that everything was just peachy?
Again, disorderly conduct doesn't contain an element of threat...that would be a more serious charge.
It's probably too much to ask for the cop to explain why he's there. That probably would've diffused the situation to begin with. At a minimum, it should have been obvious that he was talking to an older gentleman instead of a teenager. In any event, once he found out that it was Gates' property, he should've apologized and explained what happened. Ordering people around on their own property isn't conducive to cooperation.
This is the United States of America. You can resist being told to get out of your own damn house by the authorities if you have done nothing wrong. Naturally a bootlicker like you would think you obey the cop.The man refused to come out of the house and, initially, refused to identify himself. This officer was merely trying to determine whether or not a crime was being committed and Professor Gates started the whole interaction in a confrontational manner.
He should be "grateful" because a cop shows up at his house demanding to see his papers? This isn't the former USSR.Actually, no. I wouldn't care what race the asshole was. He responded to the officer, merely doing his job, in a manner that inflamed the situation and -- eventually -- led to his arrest.
The guy had a neighbor, concerned for his property, call the police about su ious activity. The police responded. The Professor met the police with insults and a lack of cooperation. What was his problem? I would think he should be grateful to the neighbor and the police but, instead, he flies off the handle.
Since he left without doing anything else regarding a burglary, he was indeed convinced everything was just peachy.
Unless you are calling him a liar again.
So all that stuff about getting hurt was something you just made up.
Well, he is a black man and they are scary per Yanni's experience.
Old people commit burglaries too. And, at the time, the officer had more that the one person he could see to worry about. At the time, he didn't know it was the person's property.
And, why, under any cir stances would the police officer need to apologize for responding to a call and protecting that idiot's property. If anything, Gates needed to apologize for being an insufferable asshole to a man trying to do his job.
I'll be anxious to hear the tapes to see how that first interaction with Mr. Gates went. This is a guy that just got through breaking into his own house. Is it unreasonable to expect him to think, gee, I guess that could have looked su ious to the neighbors.
He should be grateful the cops responded to a call that his house was being burglarized.
You are claiming to be inside the police officers; heads since you are rewriting their statements for them.
Just making up what other people said again. Nothing new for you.Just merely pointing out that no one is suggesting the arrest wasn't legitimate...just unwarranted.
Wrong, you said the sergeant left the house for safety reasons.No, I didn't. Sgt. Crowley stated in interviews that he wanted the man to come outside because he was concerned with his own safety.
The police sure didn't express any such concern. Why are you making uo the assertion they did?Again, if I know. People have done all sorts of crazy -- intentionally and accidentally -- when they're in an unreasonably agitated state.
Which was stupid.They arrested him instead.
I've said that it became obvious, during his contact with Mr. Gates, that there was no burglary.
Nope. happens.
So he was done and could have just left.
Yes, you made it up. None of the cops were worried about that. You tried to make them out to be scared and incompetent.
Odds are that if the guy inside is telling the cop to get off his property, it is his property. The initial report was about two teenagers breaking in, anyways. A cop shows up at my house and tells me to get out, without a warrant, without anything and I'm supposed to thank him? that, this is the land of the free.
I guess you're right. Why should the police ever have to apologize to an inferior negro? Seriously, a cop just ordered a homeowner out of his house, arrested him, and then found out that, hey, that was actually the homeowner. If you can't figure out why a cop should apologize for that you are a greater idiot than you already appear.And, why, under any cir stances would the police officer need to apologize for responding to a call and protecting that idiot's property. If anything, Gates needed to apologize for being an insufferable asshole to a man trying to do his job.
LOL. What twisted stupid ing logic. That's like you saying we should be glad that Bush gave us the Iraq fiasco because it was based on faulty evidence which he believed was real...oh, wait.I'll be anxious to hear the tapes to see how that first interaction with Mr. Gates went. This is a guy that just got through breaking into his own house. Is it unreasonable to expect him to think, gee, I guess that could have looked su ious to the neighbors.
He should be grateful the cops responded to a call that his house was being burglarized.
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