I think alot f the hate comes from him getting off scott free for rape like oj did for murder.
Just because you are rich doesn't mean you should not follow the rules.
people are irked about kobe because he threw shaq under a bus after the accusation of rape. rape or not, it's not like adultery is anything to be praised. then the whole feud between shaq and kobe occurred. after kobe gets the lakers to himself, they proceed to suck and then kobe throws bynum under a bus by wanting to trade his ass. then he throws the lakers under the bus by demanding a trade.
...Then what happened?...keep a goin, 024.
tee, hee.
Culburn has the personality or a certain Mr. Alton Brown.
...and Culburn has more posts than Black.
Read it & weep, Bell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. His first couple of years were tough and he was immature. Let's not forget he was just 17 and just a kid on a veteran team. Excuse for y behavior no, but let's try to put it in perspective. He came into the NBA with all the hype and then got slapped in the face with the reality check that is the NBA. There are many articles that discuss how many of his Laker teamates were going to show the kid... just what a kid he was. I think when you are as talented as he was and have the desire that he has clearly proven, that would tend to put a chip on your shoulder.
2. Worst thing he's done in my opinion. You don't say anything like that when dealing with cops. Everything gets recorded. It was explained later that it wasn't so much a snitching as much as an off the cuff comment saying I should've just done what Shaq does. But come on. You just dont do that. Bad bad move.
3. We differ a lot here in opinion. The Lakers made a decision to build around Kobe. They were taking their sweet time doing so and it wasnt just Kobe who was getting frustrated at the talent on the team. For god's sake, their starting team had Kwame, Walton, and Smush friggen Parker. He made some comments to some guys in a friggen parking lot who taped it without his knowing. After the media gets its grubby hands on said tape the hits the fan and its blown way out of proportion. He told the Lakers if they are going to take their time and build thru draft picks etc...then trade him. I see nothing wrong with that. It's the same thing all the stars are doing today. The result is the Lakers FO got off thier asses and made conserted efforts to get better players. It worked.
4. The man is under a microscope. It doesn't matter what he says or does. It's a no win situation. What we get to see in the interviews is the PC Kobe. A lot of that has to do with his earlier mess ups. A lot if it has to do with not allowing himself to be put in another position not unlike the parking lot comments about Bynum. Heck, so many here even today say that Bynum isnt and hasnt proved and in the same breath diss Kobe for saying he should be shipped out when 3 years ago it was a trade of Kidd for Bynum being discussed. You can't have it both ways. You say, tell it like it is... and yet if he does, he's an arrogant ass throwing his teamates under the bus. SO we get PC Kobe.
5. Team guy. I think you need to look at that in the different settings. He was too young when he came into the league to hang with the guys. They were clubbin and living the life. He was 17 and playing video games. In his early 20's he wasn't one of the guys that hung out. He lived, breathed, and was all about being the best and seperation from the players he had played with was already there. Now, after Shaq was sent packing, he has changed. He does hang with the other players now. He does go out with them. They are a much tighter group of guys and everyone has commented on it. it clearly shows. So maybe he learned a little bit about how to be a teamate. Isn't that what life is? Making youthful mistakes and hopefully learning from them? Only difference is... all his mistakes are on prime time tv.
Clearly Kobe has made a lot of mistakes. Many of the superstars do. We really don't know the people. We know what we are shown through the media. We see the "newsworthy" clips. Do i think Kobe is some model citizen and beyond reproach? Heck no! Do I think he's the villian many paint him out to be. Nope! I'm guessing he's somewhere in between.
With that said, He is by many accounts one of, if not, the hardest working players in the game. His skill level is unmatched. He will go down as one of the best to ever play the game and his desire to win is admired by fans and compe ors alike. When talking basketball, I want guys like him on my side. If I need role models, I think I'll look outside the sports arena...
That's my 2 cents
Last edited by cobbler; 07-24-2009 at 07:51 PM.
Every championship contender lost at least one allstar, leaving lakers as the only remaining contender? Oh and if Kobe got his way, lakers would be stuck with the corpse of Kidd.
Kobe also does premature ball dances to taunt the audience. He should at least make sure he wins first.
And then what happened? Go ahead, 024.
2009* happened of course. oh and you didn't respond to my remark about kobe wanting to trade bynum for kidd. what a nice troll.
Christ, it was like pullin' teeth.
LOL @ Culburn bragging about his post count when half of them are poems he cut and paste from websites to keep his own appreciation thread on page 1 every day!
Higher post counts do not equal higher intelligence or more respected opinions. Usually means you're too busy listening to yourself type to actually contribute anything of value. Or in your case.. too busy copying and pasting...
Keep strokin that ego of yours Cul, by inflating that post count...
I totally believe in the Rich shouldn't get away with murder. And if Kobe really did rape that chick, I think he should have done serious jail time. I don't think he did, I mean the girl willingly came up to his hotel room for what she initially claimed was "for an autograph" and then later changed the story to "for sex". She was a promiscous girl having sex with several dudes and kept all that hidden until she was cornered about it.
Do you really believe that Kobe raped that chick? I'm not trying to criticize you if you believe so, just wondering.
Dunc, gettin' his jealous on.
Culburn drinkin the Massengil again... gettin' delusional...
What's a bag supposed to do, Dunc? A course I drank the Massengil.
You could always go take a weak little while you convince yourself that you wouldn't your pants if the Lakers had won that strike ring you talk about in every other post? Just a suggestion...
"strike ring" got to you, eh?
tee, hee.
Sans the couple of you who hijacked this thread you can see I created this with a purpose. No matter who you are...what team of a fan you are....everybody is a human being. Everybody comes from somewhere. Just because you root for the sametime or hate the opposing team doesn't mean you need to act hostile to each other. I really appreciate Kori participating in this thread and getting this message out to this forum. Respect eahcother guys. Even on this forum.
I'm calling Spurs fans...Laker fans...Jazz fans...Rocket fans...Mavs fans (even you Ghazi!)...Suns fans...Pistons fans...yes tag along Tlong (since there is only about ohhh 1 TrialBlazer fan) and all.....
Let's respect eachother and at the same time engage in stimulating and arousing basketball discussion where we can all learn and appreciate the different ideas and cultures brought to this forum!!!
Really....really KBP??
Guess what? No one here gives a flyin fuk about PANAR&#Q&T%%#&%&# or anyother team from Greece. This thread is about Kori....not you. Your psychotic selfish narcistic at ude is not needed on this board.
Take a ing hike......pal....
I could care less, but you sure seem to hang your hat on it. A ring is a ring. Every team played 50 games that year and the Spurs won it all, and only lost 2 games the entire playoffs. And the best part of that whole season was watching the Spurs SLAP the Lakers in a sweep and shut down the Forum forever. What a dump that place was... We did you guys a favor shutting that hole down prematurely.
I didn't TAINT that strike ring. That was Suns fandom that did that. I just cited them TAINTING it. You have every right to count that ring just like your 3 regular ones. And don't you let anyone tell you different.
Great job Culburn...see everyone...conceding isn't as hard as it looks...and Culburn still has his pride in tact. No biggie. Great focus there CUlburn great job!
you conveniently forgot about kobe throwing bynum under the bus for kidd again. it's ok though, i forgive you.
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