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"government doctor"
WTF? That's a scare-mongering lie like "govt taking over health care".
Well, relative to doctors working in a single-payer system, I rate Emergency Room doctors (on a scale of 1-10) at a 9 to a government doctor's 3 or 4.
Relative to other doctors, it would depend on their speciality. Emergency Room doctors have to be versed in a mul ude of medical disciplines to the point they can quickly diagnose and treat whatever comes through the door. I give them high marks. Other doctors have the luxury of choosing their patients and, in fact, the illnesses or specialties they decide to treat.
Even family prac ioners don't get much beyond general physicals and routine ailments anymore.
What's your point? In a clutch, I'd put my health in the hands of an Emergency Room doctor over the leading cardiologist -- unless, of course, I was having a heart problem...etc...
People walking into the typical emergency room get better care than veterans walking into the typical V. A. Hospital (And, before we start talking about wounded soldiers, I think their is a distinct difference between the care received by active soldiers injured in combat and retired military members getting standard care.)
"government doctor"
WTF? That's a scare-mongering lie like "govt taking over health care".
Based on what?
My experiences with both; 10 years of emergency medical experience where I routinely witnessed miracles performed in the emergency room and watching the V.A. system kill two of my relatives through misdiagnosis, delay, and neglect.
How do emergency room doctors measure up in your matrix of health care experiences?
When my spouse was doing his internship, he had to intern at government run VA hospitals. The level of care there as compared to other hospitals was substandard. We will probably shift to more substandard care if the bill passes given the US have limited resources, limited physicians, etc... so it's inevitable that our care will have to be rationed.
By the way, some VA hospitals are scary. You don't want to get sick there. It's sad. I mean they fought for our country.
If that's anything like your knowledge of the law when you were playing Barney Fife, it's safe to say your experiences mean .
Have you read the bill? I know President Obama hasn't, he so much as said so...therefore, all his rhetoric is meaningless.
The fact is, the bill is written to force commercial insurers out of business and force the insured on the a "PUBLIC PLAN" which is nothing more than government, single-payer insurance where they control the doctors. That makes them government doctors...in the same mold as doctors working at the VA.
good old Yoni, off on a side track.
We're not talking about the quality of healthcare (100K iatrogenic deaths year is a good measure of quality), but cost and access.
That's your opinion and you're en led. Again, whatever makes you comfortable.
Chump asked, I answered.
But, as far as cost and access. 100% of the population has access to health care. Actually, more than 100% because, we even treat illegal immigrants too.
Cost is irrelevant when health care providers are prohibited from refusing treatment based on the economic situation of the patients which, by the way, they are.
Exactly, and it was as useless a standard as could be expected.
There is another complete fail.
Treatments in the ER cost much more than treatments not done in the ER.
Costs who, though? Like I said, patients who can't pay don't worry about paying...cost is irrelevant.
Costs everyone who does pay.
You like paying more than you have to for someone else's care.
"100% of the population has access to health care."
wow, you really are ing stupid.
About the only humanitarian aspect of US health care is public hospitals being committed to caring for those who can't pay (which includes a large numbe of employed people who are under insured), and Yoni against even that.
Let them suffer and die if they can't pay, is that it, Yoni?
And you think the Trillion Dollar Democrat plan is going to make everyone pay proportionately?
I'm already doing that. I don't want the government telling me where to get my medical care or which procedures they'll cover.
lmao sure we will Mr. 20 Questions
100% of the U.S. Population has immediate access to health care. Indisputable.
100% of illegal immigrants have immediate access to health care. Also indisputable.
If the government wants to find savings in the Medicare and Medicaid programs to pay for the care, so I don't have to, I'm all for it. It doesn't require an overhaul of the entire industry. Blue Dog Democrats, moderates, and most common-sense Americans realize this.
Fortunately, the President's unprecedented act of calling the head of the CBO on the carpet has had the opposite intended effect:
CBO deals new blow to health plan
Thank God they work on Saturdays.
You think you pay proportionately now?
No , I just told you you were.I'm already doing that.
No, I think I pay a disproportionate amount for healthcare. This bill will not make my situation better, it will make it worse.
Yeah, but you don't say how the Trillion Dollar Healthcare Bill will change that for the better. Why? Because it won't.
I know an employer who did just that after employees kept griping about their insurance. He gave them all a raise equal to the cost he was spending on the plan and told them to buy their own.
So how much more will you personally pay?
I don't know...they're not letting us see all the funding mechanisms yet. But, from what we do know; they're going to start taxing me on what my employer pays toward my insurance premium; they're going to start a "public option," to compete with the private insurance companies -- except, of course, it doesn't have to operate at a profit so, that'll drive commercial companies to raise premiums or close shop.
I'm sure I'll see my share of the Trillion Dollar cost. I'm equally sure those who aren't paying anything now, won't be paying anything under this plan.
Transparency, my ass.
This administration is less transparent that obsidian.
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