Gooden to Dallas

**will_spurs** · 07-26-2009

I wish him all the best. He was needed, did what he was asked to do, unfortunately it didn't work out but he never ran his mouth or anything. Hopefully he will have a great time in Dallas and the short episode in silver and black will have helped him to get his career back on track.

**Rogue** · 07-26-2009

Ratliff may probably appear in the starting lineups of the Spurs team next season, for this case, Dice would also be a backup at PF spot behind Duncan. Ratliff is still a decent low-post defender despite his age and capable of blocking shots, but dude is even more crappy than Damp on the other side of the floor, then Duncan would receive constant double-team and Duncan isn't as capable as Dirk of dealing with such a strategy. So my prediction is Dice will be along with Tim in the starting five for the normal starting 5 squad, while Bonner and Ratliff may also be picked into the starting lineups in some games for the sake of offense or defense.

**Flux451** · 07-26-2009

Gooden is inconsistent. This doesn't improve Dallas much. Good luck to Gooden.

**K-State Spur** · 07-26-2009

gooden's not a bad player, but IMHO - dallas f'ed up just by adding a PF who commands minutes.

if they stick him on the end of their bench

but if they actually play him - which they probably will - it will force dirk or marion (and sometimes both) to play large a percentage of minutes out of position.

gooden's size/speed/strength combo doesn't play anywhere other than PF. dirk's obviously best used at the 4 - and marion has been far more effective playing as a slightly undersized 4 as opposed to a big wing. if you can shut down his transition game (which the spurs have never had much problem doing) - his offense becomes a liability in the half court the farther away from the hoop he gets.

**K-State Spur** · 07-26-2009

Originally Posted by lefty

2007 Finals

Duncan OWNED Gooden

LOL Mav fan

actually, in terms of one-on-one defense (when they were matched up, Z had a lot of time on him as well) - duncan didn't really OWN gooden.

it was more gooden's complete inability to adjust to anything else going on around him that allowed parker to drive the lane at will which was a problem.

this is a guy, who when drafted by Memphis, was asked by a reporter how it felt to be going to the land of elvis? gooden's response - "i always thought graceland was in tennessee?"

**completely deck** · 07-26-2009

Originally Posted by Rogue

Ratliff may probably appear in the starting lineups of the Spurs team next season, for this case, Dice would also be a backup at PF spot behind Duncan. Ratliff is still a decent low-post defender despite his age and capable of blocking shots, but dude is even more crappy than Damp on the other side of the floor, then Duncan would receive constant double-team and Duncan isn't as capable as Dirk of dealing with such a strategy. So my prediction is Dice will be along with Tim in the starting five for the normal starting 5 squad, while Bonner and Ratliff may also be picked into the starting lineups in some games for the sake of offense or defense.

what does this have to do with the Gooden signing?

**Findog** · 07-26-2009

Originally Posted by spursfan1000

Umm except for the fact we dont need Gooden and dosent fit our style of play dummass..

Sarcasm, little girl. Look into it.

**Findog** · 07-26-2009

Originally Posted by timtonymanurich

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(WTF???!!!)

I don't remember SA needing Drew Gooden, ESPECIALLY with the front court that we have now.... If Pop and RC didn't make it a point to pursue him-- there's a reason for that!!!

Dallas can have him.

Cuban is just playing 'fantasy basketball' with his roster just like Jerry Jones did with the Cowboys and look where it got Dallas!!

To all you Dallas fans: no need to start acting like a lady..... don't worry, you'll be back on your knees in no time! Besides... do you REALLY think that Stern is ever going to allow Cuban to be a world champion?

YHBT. HAND.

**Findog** · 07-26-2009

Originally Posted by td_tp_manu

we don't pay gooden a cent when he's left

yhbt. Hand.

**bishopospurs** · 07-26-2009

Just read this little bit of news. Gooden was an exciting pick up last year, didn't work out for us. I don't think he fits the Mavs very well, defensively he isn't going to do great in the half court. At 4.5 mil I would rather have McDyess. There is a huge difference between McDyess and Gooden, I don't even know why people bother to compare the two. Dice plays defense and rebounds. Have fun Mavs fans. Gooden had nothing but good things to say about the spurs, but then he signs with their rival after getting elimanted by them. Very Favrien.. touche Mr.Gooden....

**FromWayDowntown** · 07-26-2009

The problem with arguing that Gooden was truly effective for the Spurs in 2009 is the fact that Gregg Popovich, in the most important game of the season for his team, didn't put Drew Gooden on the floor for a single second. Gooden put up relatively good numbers (albeit with some great inconsistency), but there's can sometimes be a big difference between putting up good numbers and being an effective player.

I think the Spurs have vastly improved themselves in the front court this offseason and part of that was finding players who can be more effective than Drew Gooden. That the Spurs were relying so heavily, last year, on players who weren't even as effective as Gooden was the tell-tale that 2008-09 was a doomed season.

**urunobili** · 07-26-2009

Originally Posted by Findog

How you like us now, you mother ers?????

You steal Finley from us, we take Gooden off your hands. Turnabout is fair play es!!!!

ringless bitterness?

**dickface** · 07-26-2009

Originally Posted by urunobili

ringless bitterness?

Are all Spurs fans so ing stupid they can't understand some pretty obvious sarcasm?

**urunobili** · 07-26-2009

Good addition for Dallas... Gooden has corporate knowledge of the Spurs system... perfect Mav...

**Findog** · 07-26-2009

Originally Posted by face

Are all Spurs fans so ing stupid they can't understand some pretty obvious sarcasm?

That's like literally the 10th person to take the bait.

**dude1394** · 07-26-2009

Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

The problem with arguing that Gooden was truly effective for the Spurs in 2009 is the fact that Gregg Popovich, in the most important game of the season for his team, didn't put Drew Gooden on the floor for a single second. Gooden put up relatively good numbers (albeit with some great inconsistency), but there's can sometimes be a big difference between putting up good numbers and being an effective player.

I think the Spurs have vastly improved themselves in the front court this offseason and part of that was finding players who can be more effective than Drew Gooden. That the Spurs were relying so heavily, last year, on players who weren't even as effective as Gooden was the tell-tale that 2008-09 was a doomed season.

I'm not sure that many coaches would necessarily put in a guy they picked up at the last minute in a game that was the most important of the year. Coaches are funny that way, they like their guys to not be tentative and to know their assignments. And no matter what anyone says, it's not easy to come to a new team in March and be ready to play in critical games. Let's remember that Pops DID play Bonner 20mpg and he sucked it pretty big time. So it appears that pops wanted some more outside shooting to offset what Parker was having to do.

**bigfan** · 07-26-2009

1 year, 4.5 million.

**dude1394** · 07-26-2009

Originally Posted by bigfan

1 year, 4.5 million.

So this means that next year (or at the trading deadline) the mavs will have the expiring 15million or so for dampier and 4.5million for gooden. Might be a good time to revamp that center position.