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  1. #76
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    lol people are going to be surprised. Dungy changed the culture of the team, those guys know how to win now and are better players after being with him for so long. He doesn't necessarily need to be the HC to have an impact on the team. They'll still win 12 games and face the ans and emboy for the division.

    I'm thrilled because it's not hard to have bigger balls than Tony Dungy when it comes to play calling so no more of this bull punting the ball on 4th and inches when you have the lead in a playoff game and less than two minutes on the clock.
    Agreed..but at the same time, the Texans have arguably a top 3 receiver in the NFL, a VERY good RB, and a decent QB. Not to mention a defense headed by a guy with a chip on his shoulder (Mario). This could be a great year for them.

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    Brand new article....like...4 hours ago..

    Cowboys have no plans for Vick

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    ARLINGTON, Texas (AP)—Even if Michael Vick(notes) is available, Jerry Jones says the Dallas Cowboys have no plans to sign the suspended quarterback.
    The Cowboys owner has repeatedly said since Vick was released by the Atlanta Falcons last year that his team won’t sign Vick.
    Vick was freed from federal custody this week for dogfighting charges and is awaiting word from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell about if and when he will be reinstated.
    Responding to a question Friday about Vick, Jones said his stance hasn’t changed.
    “It hasn’t,” Jones said, emphasizing that by repeating that phrase twice more in a matter of seconds.


    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

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    Brand new article....like...4 hours ago..

    Cowboys have no plans for Vick

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    ARLINGTON, Texas (AP)—Even if Michael Vick(notes) is available, Jerry Jones says the Dallas Cowboys have no plans to sign the suspended quarterback.
    The Cowboys owner has repeatedly said since Vick was released by the Atlanta Falcons last year that his team won’t sign Vick.
    Vick was freed from federal custody this week for dogfighting charges and is awaiting word from NFL commissioner Roger Goodell about if and when he will be reinstated.
    Responding to a question Friday about Vick, Jones said his stance hasn’t changed.
    “It hasn’t,” Jones said, emphasizing that by repeating that phrase twice more in a matter of seconds.


    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns
    But.. but.. the Cowboys always sign the criminals...

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    T.O. says the Vick should be reinstated without a 4 game suspension. He said it's like "kicking a dead horse." He also says that he has paid his debt to society and should be reinstated.


    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

    What do you think? Should Vick be reinstated without the suspension? Or should he have to sit out another 4 games?

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    T.O. says the Vick should be reinstated without a 4 game suspension. He said it's like "kicking a dead horse." He also says that he has paid his debt to society and should be reinstated.


    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

    What do you think? Should Vick be reinstated without the suspension? Or should he have to sit out another 4 games?
    I don't have a problem with the suspension. Roger Goodell has said from the beginning that the punishment they receive from the state will not cover the punishment from the NFL. 4 games is not a big deal for a guy who's waited years to get back.

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    I agree with T.O. Let the guy move on. He did his time. It does nothing for the NFL to keep him out. I wish people can take some steps back and really understand what this man has lost for this crime. Beyond anyone by a ton for doing the samething. It's over.

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    I wouldn't mind him on the Raiders as a backup. At least it would fit, right? It's just the kind of thing that Al Davis would do.

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    Don't really have a problem with the 4 game suspension. Yeah, it was a lengthy sentence but the NFL always hands down their own suspension with a player when they are in trouble with the law and this is no different.

    He served his time and is a free man and I agree he should be allowed to be reinstated but this is just part of the business. It's really a technicality

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    Don't really have a problem with the 4 game suspension. Yeah, it was a lengthy sentence but the NFL always hands down their own suspension with a player when they are in trouble with the law and this is no different.

    He served his time and is a free man and I agree he should be allowed to be reinstated but this is just part of the business. It's really a technicality
    Exactly.

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    It's really a technicality
    This is still new to the NFL. 2 years in Jail plus missing 2 seasons. I can't even say cut the guy a break. Stop beating a man down is more like it.

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    This is still new to the NFL. 2 years in Jail plus missing 2 seasons. I can't even say cut the guy a break. Stop beating a man down is more like it.
    But the problem here is the double standard.

    If u go without giving him a suspension, then it's gonna be really hard to hand suspensions down in the future.

    Look at the Minnesota boat scandal, they were charged with only misdemeanors and got 4 games, so now you're gonna let a guy who commited a major felony not get any suspension? If that were to happen it would be really hard to suspend a player for anything less in the future, because they would just point back to Vick who didn't get a suspension for something way more serious.

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    But the problem here is the double standard.

    If u go without giving him a suspension, then it's gonna be really hard to hand suspensions down in the future.

    Look at the Minnesota boat scandal, they were charged with only misdemeanors and got 4 games, so now you're gonna let a guy who commited a major felony not get any suspension? If that were to happen it would be really hard to suspend a player for anything less in the future, because they would just point back to Vick who didn't get a suspension for something way more serious.
    How much jail time did the Minnesota boat scandal ppl get? Did they serve enough time to miss an entire season? Two? Why is it that Goodell couldn't let a suspension run concurrently with his jail sentence?

    Four games isn't that big a deal, but it's a bit excessive when you put it all into perspective. Is he getting a clean slate or not?

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    How much jail time did the Minnesota boat scandal ppl get? Did they serve enough time to miss an entire season? Two? Why is it that Goodell couldn't let a suspension run concurrently with his jail sentence?

    Four games isn't that big a deal, but it's a bit excessive when you put it all into perspective. Is he getting a clean slate or not?
    Because he was released by the Falcons and there is no guarantee he's gonna come back and play for the NFL after two years in prison. Who's to say that he changes and goes a different route?

    Since he decided to get back in the NFL, he will have to face a suspension now.

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    Who's to say that he changes and goes a different route?
    Yeah maybe he would have wanted to find work as an accountant, right?

    Everyone knew Vick was going to try to make a return to the NFL. Are you saying in two years, Goodell didn't have the brains to call up his future PR nightmare and ask him "hey, what's your five year plan after leaving prison?"

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    Yeah maybe he would have wanted to find work as an accountant, right?

    Everyone knew Vick was going to try to make a return to the NFL. Are you saying in two years, Goodell didn't have the brains to call up his future PR nightmare and ask him "hey, what's your five year plan after leaving prison?"
    Two years is a long ass time in prison. The environment itself can completely change you. Who's to say he comes out and is out of football shape and doesn't have the motivation to play anymore?

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