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    Right, no one was asked their opinion other than the police.

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    Right, no one was asked their opinion other than the police.
    I don't know. Opinions aren't usually part of a police report. I wouldn't mind seeing a survey of the assembled neighbors to see if they thought Professor Asshole was righteously or stupidly arrested.

    I'm pretty sure there were some quotes from the neighbors in some of the media reports I read. I don't recall anyone defending him. But, I could be wrong...however, I think that would have stood out.

    I think the general consensus was that he was acting strange, under the cir stances. By the way, that strange behavior hasn't really stopped.

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    I don't know. Opinions aren't usually part of a police report. I wouldn't mind seeing a survey of the assembled neighbors to see if they thought Professor Asshole was righteously or stupidly arrested.

    I'm pretty sure there were some quotes from the neighbors in some of the media reports I read. I don't recall anyone defending him. But, I could be wrong...however, I think that would have stood out.

    I think the general consensus was that he was acting strange, under the cir stances. By the way, that strange behavior hasn't really stopped.
    So obviously he should be thrown in jail again.

    Strange behavior must be stopped at all costs.

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    So obviously he should be thrown in jail again.
    I don't see the point...there doesn't appear to be an ongoing event that would be quelled by arresting him now.

    Strange behavior must be stopped at all costs.
    Strange behavior, in a highly-emotionally charged situation can be dangerous.

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    I don't see the point...there doesn't appear to be an ongoing event that would be quelled by arresting him now.
    What had to be quelled in the first place?

    Strange behavior, in a highly-emotionally charged situation can be dangerous.
    You are saying the police feared for their safety or anyone else's?

    None of them said that at any time. You are making up again.

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    What had to be quelled in the first place?
    We've been through all this, are you really that dense? Let's revisit the issue when a) the 911 tapes are released and b) someone gets a clue to ask the police officer how Mr. Gates actions met the elements a disorderly conduct charge. Neither you nor I are in a position to make a further determination on our positions until then.

    You are saying the police feared for their safety or anyone else's?
    Nope.

    None of them said that at any time. You are making up again.
    I believe the African-American officer said Gates was acting strange. It is my opinion that people acting strangely in an emotionally-charged environment can do unpredictable things...sometimes, dangerous things. I never put those words in anyone's mouth or head.

    You can keep posting on this, if you like, but, until we have more information, it would be futile to continue arguing over things we don't know. So, have fun.

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    We've been through all this, are you really that dense? Let's revisit the issue when a) the 911 tapes are released and b) someone gets a clue to ask the police officer how Mr. Gates actions met the elements a disorderly conduct charge. Neither you nor I are in a position to make a further determination on our positions until then.
    BAsed on the information the cops have given in their report and in several interviews, the charge wasn't going to fly.

    Nope.
    Yep, you are saying he was dangerous. Be scared of the old man. He'll kill us all.

    I believe the African-American officer said Gates was acting strange. It is my opinion that people acting strangely in an emotionally-charged environment can do unpredictable things...sometimes, dangerous things. I never put those words in anyone's mouth or head.
    You just did it again, dumbass.

    You can keep posting on this, if you like, but, until we have more information, it would be futile to continue arguing over things we don't know. So, have fun.
    It's a good idea for you to stop posting here and elsewhere since all it does is further expose your ignorance.

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    BAsed on the information the cops have given in their report and in several interviews, the charge wasn't going to fly.

    Yep, you are saying he was dangerous. Be scared of the old man. He'll kill us all.

    You just did it again, dumbass.

    It's a good idea for you to stop posting here and elsewhere since all it does is further expose your ignorance.
    he was a black man...

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    He is 5-foot-7, weighs 150 pounds, wears glasses and uses a cane. His legs are of unequal length, his mustache and goatee are gray. He is 58 years old and looks it.
    Run for your lives!

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    Run for your lives!
    What do either of those facts have to do with anything?

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    What do either of those facts have to do with anything?
    That you are incredibly stuipid for saying he was a danger to anyone.

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    That you are incredibly stuipid for saying he was a danger to anyone.
    So, you're going to say that an African-American, 5'7", 150-pound, glasses-wearing, cane-using, gray mustachioed and goteed, 58-year-old (and looking it) man isn't capable of violence?

    That's why I asked why any of those facts had anything to do with this incident.

    You're incredibly stupid, as is Obama, for concluding -- without having all the fact and not having been present at the scene -- that Professor Gates wasn't a danger to anyone.

    A lot more can go wrong when the police leave the scene while an individual is still in a highly-agitated state than can go wrong if you arrest him and remove him from the scene.

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    So, you're going to say that an African-American, 5'7", 150-pound, glasses-wearing, cane-using, gray mustachioed and goteed, 58-year-old (and looking it) man isn't capable of violence?
    You're saying he was a direct threat to everyone that had to be stopped, which no one else who was there said.

    That's why I asked why any of those facts had anything to do with this incident.
    Your made up has nothing to do with the incident.

    You're incredibly, as is Obama, for concluding -- without having all the fact and not having been present at the scene -- that Professor Gates wasn't a danger to anyone.
    You're incredibly, as are many racists, concluding -- without having all the facts and not having been present at the scene and with no supporting evidence from anyone at the scene -- that Gates was a danger to everyone.

    A lot more can go wrong when the police leave the scene while an individual is still in a highly-agitated state than can go wrong if you arrest him and remove him from the scene.
    Right, he was going to kill everyone. Everyone there said so.

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    You're saying he was a direct threat to everyone that had to be stopped, which no one else who was there said.
    No, I never said that. What I've been saying and what you refuse to recognize is that the police made a judgement call, probably based on a whole lot of previous experience in such situations, that it was prudent to arrest Mr. Gates. I am willing to bet every officer at the scene have seen similar situations deteriorate badly.

    Your made up has nothing to do with the incident.
    An Officer's previous experience is certainly relevant.

    You're incredibly, as are many racists, concluding -- without having all the facts and not having been present at the scene and with no supporting evidence from anyone at the scene -- that Gates was a danger to everyone.
    I've never said Gates was a danger to anyone. And, I've repeatedly said I am willing to wait until I hear the tapes of the event before making a final determination but, until then, I'm siding with the police...who are unanimous that it was a legitimate arrest.

    Right, he was going to kill everyone. Everyone there said so.
    Now, who's making up?

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    No, I never said that. What I've been saying and what you refuse to recognize is that the police made a judgement call, probably based on a whole lot of previous experience in such situations, that it was prudent to arrest Mr. Gates. I am willing to bet every officer at the scene have seen similar situations deteriorate badly.
    Excpet no one ever said anything about that in the report or since. You simply made it up.


    An Officer's previous experience is certainly relevant.
    Whose experience? Not yours, because you weren't there. If it was theirs, they should have already said they feared for everyone's safety. They didn't.


    I've never said Gates was a danger to anyone.
    You did. Several times.
    And, I've repeatedly said I am willing to wait until I hear the tapes of the event before making a final determination but, until then, I'm siding with the police...who are unanimous that it was a legitimate arrest.
    Based on the fears you made up for them.

    Now, who's making up?
    You.

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    Okay, I'm going to let all that idiocy stand on it's own. Good luck with that ChumpDumper.

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    It's ok to let all your idiocy stand on its own. The stupidity of the arrest stands on its own as well.

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