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yes but Gary Oldman can only do so much and he won't be back till the end of the seventh one, that movie was easily the worst of the series
Not worth the time nor the money.Damn that movie sucked bad!
yes but Gary Oldman can only do so much and he won't be back till the end of the seventh one, that movie was easily the worst of the series
Absolutely..I had to poke awake one of the girls I went with!
did you use your penis?Absolutely..I had to poke awake one of the girls I went with!
Saw the movie this weekend with my mother, who is big into the books. I have some passing knowledge in Harry Potter from seeing the first movie in theatres and catching up last weekend on the movies before I went to this one.
I found the movie, by and large, to be simply a set-up for the next movie. Slughorn is the most interesting character and we spend most of the movie trying to figure him out. Harry's less-than-subtle detective work shuts it down, however, as Harry is the audience. The character-building of Tom Riddle/Voldemort was to be the most interesting potential in the movie, however, we spent very little time doing anything else besides playing with the teen characters' budding sexuality. That was frustrating. I felt like I was watching a bad episode of Dawson's Creek. A more learned script would've found a way to tie in what the characters were going through to the monster they face. What can I say? Joss Whedon ruined me on that front.
If equal time had been given to Draco and Harry we would've learned to see the differences in the two characters and how they face magic and teenage angst. And in the end, while troubled, why Draco is not as bad as his teacher. Instead, this movie keeps it simple with almost cartoon-like ideals of good and evil. There's no relevance to anything that Harry and that kid share because kids are always right or wrong, never gray. And therefore no practical application to how to deal with the the complex situations we face in everyday life. For the PG-13 audience, that theme wouldn't have been out-of-place.
I didn't like how we found out, especially with how early it was, that Snape was a bad guy. You keep waiting the entire movie for him to twirl his mustache and he's not creepy anymore, just evil. I want it to be the big reveal at the end. Snape plays for the dark side. He betrays Dumbledore. Heartbreak ensues. Next movie.
All in all, I give it a 4 out of 10. The fact that it's a series of movies, I grade it on a curve--5 out of 10.
Last edited by Darrin; 07-27-2009 at 12:18 AM.
If you had read the books you wouldn't be saying this.
Saw the movie the other day and had the same feeling as most. A decent film, kept me into it, but the ending kinda sucked...It kind of left the door open for more.
It was supposed to.
I agree. No. 5 has been my favourite. This last one had too much story, but as my friend told me it was meant to be like that, to prepare us for the final movie.
Saw it Saturday. Liked it as a movie. Hated it as a Harry Potter series movie.
Granted they can't put 700 pages into a 2.5 hour movie, but I was very disappointed in it. Bottom line. The big battle was all shown in the previews, there was no explanation as to who Fenrir Greyback is and why it's such a menace to see him there and no outrage that the Death Eaters were led directly into the castle (I loved that the remnants of the DA fought them off, where was that?).
And one of my favorite parts of the entire effing series is Harry and Ginny, being together. What the ? His kiss with Cho Chang was longer and more meaningful! This is supposed to be the BIG LOVE of Harry's life and they never really got together! Bloody , he thinks of her as he is dying - remembers that kiss - and that is it?! BAH.
Daniel Radcliffe is only 5'6" tall, so no he doesn't look as grown as the others, but I think he and Rupert Grint have come a very long way as actors. I think they are fabulous. And I didn't want to break Emma Watson's neck for once, so it looks like someone explained to her that acting isn't just scrunching your eyebrows and forcing enunciated words out, so yay for that.
I liked it fine as a Potter film. I think they've carved out a three picture arc with Prince and the next two films that will see more on Harry's fixation with Ginny, along with other issues left out of this one. And I didn't mind some of the finer points being left out - with stuff like Fenrir, Potter fans know who he is (I like how he talks about finishing them "his way"), but for those who don't read the books, there's no extra information thrown in there to confuse them.
To me, it was like watching BBC Potter - more quiet time and interaction with the characters, which I had really missed in every previous film. If the end is somewhat anticlimactic, I think it was artfully done, especially Dumbledore's last stand. Overall, a different kind of Potter film, but that's not a bad thing.
I wouldn't care if they eliminated Fenrir as a character and showed another Death Eater. But focusing on him, I felt like we were supposed to know the backstory (and I did, having read the books - but how are they going to leave Bill out of this, when S Cottage plays such a big role later? I was expecting to see something of Bill and Fleur, as I assumed half the reason for splitting book 7 was to include the wedding), and instead, there was random menacing Death Eater.
I don't mind more quiet time with the characters, I'm just disappointed that I'd already seen the entirety of the battle in the previews, when the previews led me to expect it was going to be bigger.
Hard to please everyone and get all the nuances of the story arc out there, in a relatively short film, but I was left disappointed.
Because the scene with the Unbreakable Vow at the beginning of the movie is also at the beginning of the book. And he still kills Dumbledore at the end of the book. And you spend the entire book wondering WTF is really going on with Snape and Dumbledore.
It will be explained. Trust me.
I think they could have done Harry and Ginny together better too...
What I'm wondering is how they're going to handle the 1st part of DH now that the Burrow is charcoal...
Also had that thought. So confused by that whole scene, it seemed so unnecessary, and that time could have gone to explaining something else. . .
Anyone else have to take a step back and go 'who is that with Remus?' They never said who Tonks was! Or explained that they were together now. She's just some chick, who looked very different than in the fifth movie, who called Remus sweetheart.
I knew who it was immediately...but my reaction was 'WTF?'
Also, I thought Snape looked different in this movie, and yesterday I finally figured out why...they shampooed his hair!
I was confused by the part where Hans Gruber killed Professor X.
I think I would be too...
They also cut it differently so he would look a bit younger. They've been trying since Movie 5, when they realized he is supposed to be contemporary with Harry's parents. Oops.I knew who it was immediately...but my reaction was 'WTF?'
Also, I thought Snape looked different in this movie, and yesterday I finally figured out why...they shampooed his hair!
Maggie Scott (MacGonagall) was looking OLD in this one.
Maggie Smith IS old...almost 75...
According to IMDB, she is also recovering from breast cancer...
As someone else mentioned, they spent WAY too much time on the "romantic exploits" of the Hogwarts kids. Unfortunately, that kinda shallow story line appeals to tha majority of your casual, non-reader fan of HP.
My BIGGEST fear was that they wouldn't nail the Dumbledore death scene, but fortunately, for the MOST part, they hit it outta the park (for me). The ONLY problem I had was what they did w/ Harry in that scene. I thought the fact that Dumbledore petrified Harry in place so he PHYSICALLY couldn't do a single thing but watch was TRULY heartbreaking. Instead, they just had him watch and CHOOSE to stay hidden. Lame.
I cant believe how many people didnt like this book in the series.
I thought it was the "Empire Strikes Back" of the Harry Potter series. Especially after the complete "filler" that was "Order of the Phoenix". This novel developed the characters and provided huge insight into some of the backstory. Not to mention following Harry trying out random stuff he would find in his text book was quite entertaining.
However, I thought the movie had the same problems all the films have had:
1) They picked some pretty crappy child actors as the stars (the minor characters they cast later are much better)
2) The timing and delivery of much of the comedy in the novels doesnt translate well to film (think of Ron trying to stop the crashing flying car with his busted up wand in the second film/book).
3) Harry is a little in the film. You wonder how any real adult would ever believe this kid could somehow save the world as Dumbledore does.
Or . . . there are plenty of the avid fans of HP that appreciate the relationships as being a crucial part of the story, especially for Harry regarding Ginny.
And there was NOWHERE near enough attention devoted to that storyline, which, for me, is one of the central things of HBP.
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