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    I like it. Here in the US, not all our freeways are safe to travel past about 70 MPH. The Autobahns were built in Germany, and you can go that fast in most areas.

    Didn't they have hyperinflation?

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    Thank God you guys have been such debt hawks your entire lives.

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    Thank God you guys have been such debt hawks your entire lives.
    A) I have been.

    B) Are you really too stupid to see the difference in magnitude between the debt being run up by Obama versus every previous administration in the history of our nation?

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    Bull .

    B) Are you really too stupid to see the difference in magnitude between the debt being run up by Obama versus every previous administration in the history of our nation?
    It was ok when Republicans did it.

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    With the possible exception of defense spending -- a cons utional imperative of government -- you'd be hard-pressed to find me supporting any government spending.

    It was ok when Republicans did it.
    I opposed stimulus and the bailouts even when Bush was president. On this, I'm consistent.

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    With the possible exception of defense spending -- a cons utional imperative of government -- you'd be hard-pressed to find me supporting any government spending.


    I opposed stimulus and the bailouts even when Bush was president. On this, I'm consistent.
    Just Dump Chump.

    The asshole used to be comical at times, he is now nothing but irritating.

    Dammit... Where's my fly swatter... Looks like I have to buy a new one to get rid on this gnat.

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    With the possible exception of defense spending -- a cons utional imperative of government -- you'd be hard-pressed to find me supporting any government spending.
    Yes, you are a real internet badass when it comes to debt.

    I opposed stimulus and the bailouts even when Bush was president. On this, I'm consistent.
    But you were fine with all of Bush's debt up til then. You are so consistent.

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    He amuses.

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    Just Dump Chump.

    The asshole used to be comical at times, he is now nothing but irritating.

    Dammit... Where's my fly swatter... Looks like I have to buy a new one to get rid on this gnat.
    You, on the other hand, are comical at all times.

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    Yes, you are a real internet badass when it comes to debt.

    But you were fine with all of Bush's debt up til then. You are so consistent.
    What are you trying to argue? That debt is good? Or that Yonivore is hypocritical? If its the latter, well, you could provide some proof of him saying that debt is good. If its the former, you could at least argue for the reasoning behind spending ass loads of money.


    Too the original point of the thread:

    Debt, especially in the amounts that the US has been gathering it in the past 20 years, is bad.

    Bush spent money we didn't have, we can all agree on that, and agree that it is bad to spend that much.

    Obama has spent or has agreed to spend far more than Bush. If Bush's debt was bad, Obama's larger debt has to be worse, correct?

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    I agree. It is amusing to watch things like Gilligan's Island, Monty Python, Forrest Gump, etc. It just gets old after a bit.

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    What are you trying to argue? That debt is good? Or that Yonivore is hypocritical? If its the latter, well, you could provide some proof of him saying that debt is good. If its the former, you could at least argue for the reasoning behind spending ass loads of money.
    He's no good at arguing his own position, only picking at others' through strawmen arguments. See ChumpDumper's last 1,000 posts for proof of this.

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    My position is you guys really didn't care about the debt at all when Bush was president -- which is correct.

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    My position is you guys really didn't care about the debt at all when Bush was president -- which is correct.
    But it's a absolutely stupid to assume we shouldn't care about deficit spending under different situations.

    I have repeatedly said I understand deficit spending for wars and for recessions. Not bailouts and social programs.

    I just burned your strawman.

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    My position is you guys really didn't care about the debt at all when Bush was president -- which is correct.
    Ah, so it is correct, because you say so? Did you bother to try and find a post where I said that I don't care about debt, unless its a Dem spending it? Did you find a post where I said large government is fine as long as its a Republican government? Or did you just make something up, hoping that no one would question you?

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    Well, it's a start. I applaud you for finally starting a post by claiming you have a position instead of declaring what others' are saying.

    ...is you guys really didn't care about the debt at all when Bush was president -- which is correct.
    No, that's incorrect. I was critical of the spending and, particularly, the bailouts and first stimulus; (even if the first stimulus did actually stimulate the economy where Obama's has failed, so far, to do so...Rahm's ChumpDumper-like declarations notwithstanding.)

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    Nah, it's totally correct -- you didn't care. You just waved your flag and put him on Mt. Rushmore for his deficit spending.

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    Nah, it's totally correct -- you didn't care.
    So, you can't find proof.

    You just waved your flag and put him on Mt. Rushmore for his deficit spending.
    No, I held president Bush in high esteem for other reasons.

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    Nah, it's totally correct -- you didn't care. You just waved your flag and put him on Mt. Rushmore for his deficit spending.
    Again, you are just saying that its true, and not backing it up with anything but hyperbole...

    I mean, don't get me wrong, this is the internet, and I kinda expect it, but coming in here, and just saying that you are right, without proof, or even a real arguement, doesn't really achieve much...

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    Thank God you guys have been such debt hawks your entire lives.

    Bush spent like Ted Kennedy on a bender in Martha's Vineyard.


    Given that I was against that, why would I want to double-down?

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    Again, you are just saying that its true, and not backing it up with anything but hyperbole...

    I mean, don't get me wrong, this is the internet, and I kinda expect it, but coming in here, and just saying that you are right, without proof, or even a real arguement, doesn't really achieve much...
    i've only seen you complain about pirates, not republican spending.

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    Bush spent like Ted Kennedy on a bender in Martha's Vineyard.


    Given that I was against that, why would I want to double-down?
    You voted for him.

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    i've only seen you complain about pirates, not republican spending.
    Fair enough. I went searching for posts from when Bush's stimulus package was getting passed, and unfortunately, it doesn't search that far back. However, I'm sure you would be pleased to know that I voted Libertarian for both Senator (because Cornyn voted for the damn thing) and President, because I didn't believe that McCain would cut back on government and government spending.

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    And you voted for Obama (I'm assuming), does that mean that you agree with everything he has done?

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