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lol Dirk should not be on that list.
Chris Andersen is a bit harsh as well.
Saw this on FoxSports and thought I'd post it:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9...rated-players?
Who are the NBA's most overrated players?
by Charley Rosen
Don't be fooled by stats, fan-voted All-Star Game appearances, highlighted plays and/or media hype. While every combatant in the NBA is a truly great player, too many of them are gauged by misleading standards.
Here are the most grossly over-valued, not-so superstars.
Chris Andersen
Yes, he can run, jump and dash to the ball from the weak side to dramatically block shots. And his masquerading as a tall, tattooed fowl is amusing if juvenile. But he can't shoot a lick and, most importantly, is incapable of adequately defending virtually any opponent on a man-to-man basis. What Andersen does is surely crowd-pleasing and can occasionally impact the outcome of a game, but it's mostly phony defense.
Gilbert Arenas
He's on this particular list because of his numerous forced shots, his inability to run an offense and his miserable lack of both on- and off-the-ball defense. Also, don't forget the many times he's choked in the deciding moments of playoff games. Arenas' game is less than meets the eye.
Carlos Boozer
He can score from the low post, hit mid-range jumpers and is — at best — a two-space rebounder. On the downside, Boozer either can't or won't play defense, is an erratic passer and handler, can't run, can't move laterally and just doesn't play as vigorously without the ball as he does when the rock is in his hands. Smart teams have an easy time neutralizing Boozer's effectiveness.
Chris Bosh
What does this guy do? Shoot jumpers. Grab mostly finesse rebounds. Shoot more jumpers. Register more turnovers than assists. Keep on shooting jumpers. Play inferior defense except in the sub-par compe ion of international play. He does enough to fill up a stat sheet, but not enough to be a bona-fide franchise player.
Marcus Camby
Like Andersen, he can block shots coming from the weak side but can be attacked with profit in straight-up defensive situations. He's also shot-happy, rarely grabs his rebounds in heavy and hostile traffic and is a terrible passer. And the fact that during his 13-year career the combined record of the teams he's played for is a dismal 459-573 suggests that Camby is a loser.
Kevin Garnett
His performance in the 2008 NBA Finals against the Lakers was a good indication of where he's really at.
# In Boston's six-point loss in Game 3, Garnett shot 6-for-21.
# In Boston's five-point loss in Game 5, Garnett scored only 13 points and missed several shots in the fourth quarter.
# In Boston's championship-clinching, 39-point win in Game 6, Garnett registered his series high of 26 points.
In other words, it is well-known among the league's coaches that Garnett is a frontrunner who will inevitably choke when a critical game is up for grabs.
There's less to Al Harrington's game than his scoring average. (Garrett Ellwood / Getty Images)
Al Harrington
For the initial 36 minutes or thereabouts, Harrington is one of the most dynamic scorers in the NBA. Forget that he doesn't pass, execute or play a semblance of defense. The young man can set a scoreboard on fire. Come the clutch, however, and Harrington takes (and misses) bad shots, even misses good shots, chases the ball at both ends of the court and makes foolish mistakes. For example, how many extra fourth-quarter points did he allow the Knicks' opponents to score in tight games by foolishly hanging on the rim? Too many. As much as he wants to start, Harrington is best suited to be a designated scorer off the bench who should stay glued to the bench in the endgame.
Stephen Jackson
He's a streaky, low-percentage shooter with absolutely no conscience. His defense is strictly imaginary. His ball-handling skills are far below average for a backcourt player. He thinks he's a leader, but nobody wants to follow him.
Brad Miller
This guy could easily be the least athletic big man in the NBA. In fact, several of the league's most prominent centers have privately expressed their embarrassment whenever Miller scores double digits against them. And despite his bulky frame, he's about as tough as the Pillsbury Dough Boy. Yes, Miller can hit open shots and make nifty passes. But he survives mainly because defenders tend to ignore him.
Chris Paul
There's no doubt that CP3 has always been a truly great passer and has also worked diligently to become a dangerous 3-point shooter. But there are several reasons why he belongs in this dubious category.
# In half-court offenses, he's a threat to do damage only in screen-and-roll situations, which means that doubling him virtually renders him impotent.
# Because of his diminutive size — listed at 6-feet but closer to 5-foot-10 — he can be easily doubled.
# His defense consists of steals. Period. Which in turn depends mostly on opponents' mistakes.
# Many opponents simply take the ball to their favorite spot and then shoot over him.
# Even when using a screen-and-roll, he's not nearly as effective going left as he is going right.
When was the last time that a pipsqueak-sized point guard led his team to an NBA championship? Slater Martin with the St. Louis Hawks in 1958 — which means that while Paul's Hornets will be a good team, they'll never be good enough.
Dishonorable mention
The following multi-talented players have led their respective teams nowhere for so many years that their being overrated is no longer news. Stephon Marbury, who only last week still insisted that he's the best point guard in the NBA. Dirk Nowitzki. Baron Davis. Peja Stojakovic. Amare Stoudemire. Vince Carter. Larry Hughes. Corey Maggette. Shawn Marion. Kenyon Martin. Tracy McGrady. Jermaine O'Neal. Wally Szczerbiak. And last and least, Allen Iverson.
lol Dirk should not be on that list.
Chris Andersen is a bit harsh as well.
That was brutal butat KG
I'd say Chris Bosh is the most overrated out of all of these.
Stephen Jackson's D is imaginary? I know Dirk was double and tripled teamed that series, but Jack did about the best job I've seen holding him 1 on 1.
the only question I have is.....
How the is Andrew Bynum NOT on this list???....
The guy hasnt done yet except for a 2 or 3 month stint in which he played really well.... almost 2 years ago.... but yet he is hyped up into the pantheon of Dwight Howard, Or, if you listen to faker fans, Tim Duncan!
LOL at Dirk being overrated BTW. I hate the Mavs just as much as anyone else but Dirk overrated?At worst its Cuban and the front office of the Mavs who are overrated.
Last edited by phyzik; 07-29-2009 at 12:45 AM.
Wow, those are some weak arguments
Great list
Yah i agree, Bynum should be on top of the list.
To be fair, I dont think he should be at the top of the list, he HAS shown the talent to be good (even great if he can get his defensive rotations right and not foul so much), I think he would rank ahead of Bosh or Camby as more overrated, certainly Boozer is more overrated IMHO. At this point he is not the most overrated but he is deffinately in the mix IMHO. If Odom leaves this year, he will have a chance to prove himself one way or the other. Still, Bynum should DEFINATELY be on this list at this point.
Pretty dumb list imo.
Horrible list.
I don't think Bynum's on there because he has a lot of people questioning him right now. He needs to prove that he's going to do something before he's put back on the list of "potential stars".
bogut and redd should be on that list
joe johnson who should be on that list, this guy wanted the money, wanted to be a franchise player...hasnt led the hawks to anything
Half the players he listed are either on their last contracts or out of the NBA altogether.
The author is Charley Rosen, Phil Jackson's bestest friend.
dunbest list i have ever seen.
Hey maybe we should say that all the All Stars are overrated.
DUMB LIST!
...pretty good list, imo.
I'm surprised LeBron isn't on there.
you are absolutely right, bro. The author of this re ed article simply has no business about a league called NBA, dude was so stupid as to involve Dirk in his foolish list while ignoring the most overrated player ever of NBA history whose name is Yao.
I think hes TOO specific. You could probably come up with a glaring weakness every player in the game.
i agree with the chris bosh one. the list is pretty accurate. bynum isn't on there because he's not being paid $12 million yet. the chris andersen attack was pretty harsh but it is true that his man to man defense ins mediocre at best.
Cogent point. Good for you.
Dirk overrated
This guy's a ing moron with a word processor and somebody pays him to use it.
This list is garbage. He must be on his period to write this....just fodder to stir the pot journalism.
Oh and where's Lamar Odom on this list?
I'm not a Hornets fan, but this seems crazy to me. Paul increased the win total of his team dramatically, moreso than other stars who are not on this list.Chris Paul
There's no doubt that CP3 has always been a truly great passer and has also worked diligently to become a dangerous 3-point shooter. But there are several reasons why he belongs in this dubious category.
# In half-court offenses, he's a threat to do damage only in screen-and-roll situations, which means that doubling him virtually renders him impotent.
# Because of his diminutive size — listed at 6-feet but closer to 5-foot-10 — he can be easily doubled.
# His defense consists of steals. Period. Which in turn depends mostly on opponents' mistakes.
# Many opponents simply take the ball to their favorite spot and then shoot over him.
# Even when using a screen-and-roll, he's not nearly as effective going left as he is going right.
When was the last time that a pipsqueak-sized point guard led his team to an NBA championship? Slater Martin with the St. Louis Hawks in 1958 — which means that while Paul's Hornets will be a good team, they'll never be good enough.
The argument that he can be doubled is negated by the earlier statement that he is truly a great passer.
And diminutive guards that have led teams to championships? Bob Cousy, Nate Archibald, Tony Parker...
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