I do think that they should kick ass on non payers of child support. It would be so simple to do. Put a ing ankle bracelet on them and tell them they can go to work at X time and be home at Y time and you aren't goin out at night or on weekends again until you get caught up. Bust probation and we will put your ass in jail and make you pay for that too.
Why should it be broken up like that? assuming the kid(s) are being cared for, the whole point is that the kid lives (at least)a similar lifestyle to the non-custodial parent.
The kid isn't being cared for? Great, sue for custody. Or if they're 14+ in Texas, invite them to live with you.
I like that idea better than the current system of "Get behind, we'll throw you in jail with a felony."
Yeah, that's productive. That gets money to the kid.
They do something similar to this too ... they actually do a work-release in some instances. It's not guaranteed to work, either.
i don't know why the dudes just don't disown the kids. My brother in law is doing that with a mistress he had a while back. He told the court he will give up his rights to ever associate with the child as a biological father... and he does not have to pay child support ever.
course it is up to the child once they reach 18. But till then ...the would be father gets off scott free.
"If dad is banking 500k a year? He's living large, and guess what? That's 100k in child support, the kid will too."
In Texas, the percentage of Child Support only goes up to $6000 of the monthly income of the non-custodial parent - unless the courts deem the children have special needs.
I pay $1400 a month AND have 50/50 joint custody. I had to agree to pay that much in order to have 50/50 custody. Then she gets mad because I won't agree to also pay for them to go to private school... let's not forget I have them half the time too and must be able to financially support them when I have them... which is just as often as she does. She gets that much and has NO rent, food, CPS, water expenses, because she lives with her dad. That's life... you roll with it.
Last edited by Nobody; 07-28-2009 at 03:41 PM.
see in my opinion thats when its bull and there should be no financial amount paid to either side.
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I think that is wrong. Support is meant to support the child and meet minimum parental responsibilities.
In situations, as described above, where custody is split, there should be an equal decrease in support. If it's 50/50 - there shouldn't be support. If it's 70/30, there should be 30% support of what would otherwise be the child support payment.
I do think that visitation should be tied to keeping current on child support (when applicable - there are cases where it might not be), but obtaining shared custody shouldn't be reliant on child support that is unfairly applied, because parental responsibility (and thus fiscal responsibility) is split between two custodial parents. That makes me mad for you.
Makes me mad for me too LOL! ... but hey, small price to pay to get to see my girls as often as I do. I'd rather live off noodle soup and have 50/50 custody, then have the cash and every other weekend visitation.
Sucks to be you nobody. Sorry.
You need a sympathetic judge for that. If it was that easy, virtually nobody would pay child support.
So my mom should have stayed in an abusive marriage to make sure that my sister and I got new clothes every school year? That's bull .
Yeah, there should be some leeway. Like crazy, es who admit, laugh, and are proud of the fact they lied, manipulated, and took advantage of men solely to get pregnant for their own selfish desire. I'm the unlucky one that got nailed, and my life is in shambles because of it. It sucks.
But people in committed relationships, married, and that relationship breaks up? No, they should pay.
But damn, do child support laws need some revision. Like your case, nobody.
It's good that you didn't settle for only every other weekend. It shows you care more about your girls.
i bolded the 50/50 part.
so basically you agree with me.
What?Sucks to be you nobody. Sorry.
You need a sympathetic judge for that. If it was that easy, virtually nobody would pay child support.
So my mom should have stayed in an abusive marriage to make sure that my sister and I got new clothes every school year? That's bull .
Yeah, there should be some leeway. Like crazy, es who admit, laugh, and are proud of the fact they lied, manipulated, and took advantage of men solely to get pregnant for their own selfish desire. I'm the unlucky one that got nailed, and my life is in shambles because of it. It sucks.
But people in committed relationships, married, and that relationship breaks up? No, they should pay.
But damn, do child support laws need some revision. Like your case, nobody.
there is joint 50/50 custody in the case i was talking about. Why should one side have to pay and the other side not when the kid is with each parent the same amount of time.
In that particular case, yes. I think we were posting at the same time.i bolded the 50/50 part.
so basically you agree with me.
This happens all the time. It's a bribe for custody. He probably makes significantly more than she does. The courts just *wink*wink* and let it go...to be "fair" they don't want to not give her support just because they split 50/50...their reasoning is that they don't want the kids livin large with one parent one week and then living in a hole the next week. Might not be the case here but that's the logic.
All these selfish assholes using innocent children as pawns in their stupid wars. Makes me sick.
People need to stop having children with people they don't know they love. All these people getting married at 19 and having children 9 months later, then they split up a year later. Great decision there. Then the government has to come in and fix everything so that no one is happy and the child loses.
wow.... like this doesnt even surprise me anymore....
To be honest with you people, and myself, I just really feel that HONEST Men get ed over about 75% of the time when it comes to child support. Most of that probably stems from the bags and young idiots that dont take responsibility, but there is also a reason the word " " exists.
the dirt bags that dont have the slightest bit of honor and integrity to take care of their children but double the es for taking advantage of the system just because they are a woman and get all the sympathy in the world in a court of law (when it comes to good guys).
I'm just glad I had the sense to not have children at an early age, and its not for lack of communication with the opposite sex mind you. I actually get hated on sometimes for the stuff I have at my age and its probably 90% due to the fact that I dont have kids or a spouse.
I do want a child though in the near future, I just havnt found the right woman yet.
This is the reason child support is ed up!!
My EX is remarried to a guy that makes at least the income I do and so does my EX, yet I still have to pay out the ass. Its like they get the extra funds to splurge with. And dont come down on me..........there is no fuggin way what I pay to them goes to the kids. No way. Now it may go to the nice new car and big house they bought for the kids to ride/live in.
Cowboy... I understand what you're saying, but there was no "wink wink" in this situation. My ex was abusive to the children, even admitted to it in court. But said it was an accident... every time she'd ever been abusive was an accident. It was an accident she punched my 6 year old in the mouth and knocked her tooth out. Her own friends, uncles, and aunts testified against her... my ex is the greatest at batting her eyes and looking pitiful to garner sympathy - , she tricked me into marrying her LOL!
She, her mom, dad, and sister got up there and told them I was involved in gangs, etc... which is absolutely ridiculous, especially considering my job... no way I could be invovled in anything like that and have the type of job I do. But her just throwing that out there scared them and she was going to get full custody. She even told me after it was over she was sorry for doing that be she had to make sure she got taken care of.
I had to agree to the following to get 50/50... quit my job, move to a new city, live in the SAME school district, pay 1400 a month, and let her be the primary for the children. It was a hard pill to swallow. Her biggest thing is she wanted to move... the court wasn't to hip on that... so she basically sold me 50% custody for the right to move and a chunk of money. I already have the children most of the time... she gave them to me for 5 weeks straight because she said she wanted to clean the house for a little bit?
Not all fathers are bad and not all mothers are good (and vice versa). The courts REALLY need to look at each situation on it's own merit and not take a cookie cutter approach to each case. When both my girls stand up to the shrink and say "I want to live with my daddy... mommy's mean to me and scares me". Well, someone should F'n listen to the kids! There's a reason my oldest hides behind the couch when her mother comes to get her.
Oh well... rant over... just haven't talked much about it since it happened and this thread got me going
DAMN!!!! Well, my EX was good to the kids................she just treated me like !Cowboy... I understand what you're saying, but there was no "wink wink" in this situation. My ex was abusive to the children, even admitted to it in court. But said it was an accident... every time she'd ever been abusive was an accident. It was an accident she punched my 6 year old in the mouth and knocked her tooth out. Her own friends, uncles, and aunts testified against her... my ex is the greatest at batting her eyes and looking pitiful to garner sympathy - , she tricked me into marrying her LOL!
She, her mom, dad, and sister got up there and told them I was involved in gangs, etc... which is absolutely ridiculous, especially considering my job... no way I could be invovled in anything like that and have the type of job I do. But her just throwing that out there scared them and she was going to get full custody. She even told me after it was over she was sorry for doing that be she had to make sure she got taken care of.
I had to agree to the following to get 50/50... quit my job, move to a new city, live in the SAME school district, pay 1400 a month, and let her be the primary for the children. It was a hard pill to swallow. Her biggest thing is she wanted to move... the court wasn't to hip on that... so she basically sold me 50% custody for the right to move and a chunk of money. I already have the children most of the time... she gave them to me for 5 weeks straight because she said she wanted to clean the house for a little bit?
Not all fathers are bad and not all mothers are good (and vice versa). The courts REALLY need to look at each situation on it's own merit and not take a cookie cutter approach to each case. When both my girls stand up to the shrink and say "I want to live with my daddy... mommy's mean to me and scares me". Well, someone should F'n listen to the kids! There's a reason my oldest hides behind the couch when her mother comes to get her.
Oh well... rant over... just haven't talked much about it since it happened and this thread got me going
Ya I hear that the courts are pretty much biased and prejudiced favoring the mother and not favoring the father.
What a crock of . Each ing case should be taken on its own merits.
Cases like nobody's pisses me off, and the court, specifically the judge can go himself, though nobody shoulda gotten a better lawyer to destroy those witness accounts (not that it woulda changed much probably)
How many of you spend 1,000 a month on your child? GTFO! If the money really went to the kid that kid would have all the clothes and toys it needs after only three months.
And don't give me that child care bull if you need child care that means your working so in reality your 1,000 and the husbands 1,000 ? this kid should be living like Mark Cuban.
Don't give me that food,shelter and electric bill bull either. Having a child in the house doesn't even put a dent in your money matters. I can guarantee you the 1,000 a month at least 800 a month is used by that wife who by the way couldn't wait to spread her nasty crusty legs in the first place after only 3 shots of tequila.
I have been paying child support since the early 90s and I know at least 25 other men who got ed by the wife. I have seen all the angles so if your going to debate me you better bring some proof that I know does not exist.
You see the problem with child support is it gives the wife no motivation to try and keep the marriage going. They know as soon as they dump your lame ass they cash in! If Child support was 50/50 no matter who keeps the kid you will see a decrease in ex wife's spreading their money making legs, if two people make a kid two people pay.
I wonder how many women out there have an extra 1,000 a month to give there head ex husbands while he keeps the kids and spends most of that money on strip bars and baseball cards!?
Every time I would pick up my kid all I heard was Daddy there is this thing in school and I need money and I want a laptop and can we go to sea world etc......
But the ex wife looks good hair all made up and new car while I take the bus because I missed two payments and my license got suspended? I wonder if the shoe was on the other foot if.. the jails would be full of pissed off es saying "that piece of ex husband of mine ain't getting from me I rather rot in jail"
The bottom-line the system is ed up while your ex wife is ing some other dude drinking cooled beer that you payed for and removing those expensive Victoria secret G-string that was paid for by you working on the streets like a dog. Your at your rusty one room trailer eating spam drinking cheap ass beer while waxing your carrot to Big brother! how is that fair?
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