I agree.
He was even mentioned as an MVP candidate several times in his career. But in fact he only nicely fills the stat sheet with some rebounds and points but his overall effectivness is really bad. He could be a good sidekick to someone like Gasol is, but that is pretty much it.
Not a franchise player.
That sixer team was not that good. It was AI in his prime and a bunch of role players winning a weak Eastern Conference.
And the only person who can stop Vince Carter is himself, which he frequently does. He's considered overrated because he rarely if ever plays up to his talent. There's no reason why a nucleus of Carter, Harris and Lopez should only win 33 games in the East. He's a heartless loser.Vince Carter is the most underrated superstar the NBA has. He is EASILY, EASILY the most skilled player I've ever seen. That includes Jordan. Is his career even comparable to Jordan's? Absolutely not. Is he more skilled? In my opinion, yes. There's nothing Vince Carter cannot do on the basketball floor. Jordan didn't have range. Carter can shoot a better percentage taking 30 foot 3's than Jordan could shooting 25 footers. And 5 feet, at that deep, is a big, big difference. Let's also remember Jordan had ELITE players and role players around him. Anyway, the main point is that Carter can do everything that Jordan can do except he has unlimited range on his jumper.
stupid list, imo
Basically, his premise is, if you can't play good man-to-man defense, you're overrated.
I stopped reading the article midway
Kobe, Devin, Lopez and spares are making the playoffs in the East. I don't necessarily expect them to win a series, but they're making the playoffs.Harris is a good player, no doubt. Lopez has POTENTIAL. However, last season the only thing he could do was play good D and rebound. All of his baskets were gimmes. He cannot score on the block and his jumper is average at best. You put Kobe in the same situation, and he's not making the playoffs, I guarantee that.
Kobe is a compe or. VC is not.
His man-to-man defense argument was legit, but saying players like Stephen Jackson aren't good man-to-man defenders is just stupid.
His point is that players like Birdman who are considered lockdown defensive studs by the common NBA fan shouldn't be since their man-to-man defense is horrible.
Harris is a good player, but he strikes me as a bit one-dimensional. He doesn't make his teammates better. He's not a great passing PG that runs sets very well. Avery Johnson got on his ass to play defense but Lawrence Frank doesn't. He can take anybody off the dribble and his mid-range jumper has improved. Other than that, he's an Allen Iverson starter kit at this point and little else. In fact, if you look at his last year with Dallas and his first full season with the Nets, the only thing he really showed an improvement on was getting to the FT line. Everything else is simply him playing more minutes for New Jersey and getting more touches. While I wasn't in favor of the Kidd for Harris swap, Devin hasn't really shown anything in NJ that he didn't do in Dallas except for a little better propensity for drawing fouls. He'd still be a third or fourth option for us and would still be scoring 15 points a game, not 23.
Kobe would never defer to Devin Harris, and his team would be better off for it.
If Lopez has no post game and a weak jumper, how did he shoot 53% from the floor as a rookie?He cannot score on the block and his jumper is average at best
Harris is not better than a healthy/motivated Josh.
1) The Lakers lost by 39 points in Game 6, in the Finals. The Spurs never did that.
2) I never really had a huge association with the Spurs, not to the degree where I will take a 4-1 loss as my loss.
3) What is so embarrassing about losing a series in the playoffs? 15 out of 16 teams meet that fate every single year.
4) I advise you seek psychological help, someone who can tie every single thing to the Spurs 1-4 series lost to the Mavs this past season is obviously obsessive.
Rajon Rondo says hi.
When factoring everything in (skills, athleticism, naturalness) I think him and T-Mac are the two most gifted basketball players I've ever seen (and they are cousins at that).
I don't think that VC is heartless like some people say, but I don't think he has as big of a will to win as guys like MJ, Bird, Kobe, or Lebron had/has. Those guys literally look like they were/are about to start vomiting uncontrollably or be on suicide watch when they lose, while it seems like VC doesn't get affected as much.
T-Mac's career I think was just screwed by injuries, so he never was able to develop into the player he could have been in his prime. But I personally think he's the most gifted, natural basketball player the game has seen.
I'm saying Rondo was closer to averaging one then LeBron was in the playoffs, yes.
Injuries does a lot to a man's career.
Dirk is honorable mention on a Most OVERRATED list?
WTF
Vince Carter's final year with Toronto will always stand out for me as one of the most blatant examples of tanking that I've ever seen. It may not be completely unforgivable, but it's close.
Yep, dude is trash. Even dumber was the GM that waited to trade him when his value was least. Even then, he still got robbed for what Carter was worth at the time.
I can't believe anybody would say one nice word about Vince Carter. He makes me ashamed and embarrassed as a North Carolina Tar Heel fan:
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2004/...tip041219.html
lol well he's the best dunker ever at least. And I agree with stretch about T-Mac. He's the smoothest scorer I've seen, albeit I'm only 19.
Is this the same guy that wrote that article trying to prove to us that Pau is better than Dirk?
Agreed. And his defense is underrated by some as well. He is one of the very few I've actually seen do a good job on defending Dirk 1-on-1.
lol colts
If you put Lebron James on a list of most overrated players, the next day you would "disappear."
I'd say this is not a good scouting report on Bosh. Last year, Bosh was fourth in the league at free throw attempts behind Howard, DWade, and LeBron. The idea that he is simply a jump shooter is not accurate. There's no way a passive offensive presence goes to the free throw line more often than Kobe, Pierce, Dirk, Chris Paul, and Brandon Roy. That just doesn't make sense.Chris Bosh
What does this guy do? Shoot jumpers. Grab mostly finesse rebounds. Shoot more jumpers. Register more turnovers than assists. Keep on shooting jumpers. Play inferior defense except in the sub-par compe ion of international play. He does enough to fill up a stat sheet, but not enough to be a bona-fide franchise player.
Last edited by Mr Bones; 07-29-2009 at 10:30 PM.
Basically irrelevant to the point I made about LeBron. Yeah, Rajon had a great post season. Missing Garnett and having multiple overtime games will indeed boost your stats. Nevertheless, LeBron and Rondo's numbers were basically the same across the board (except for points where LeBron doubled Rondo 35 to 17).
Generally speaking, LeBron has the better shot at a triple-double every time he steps on the floor because he's the better player and he has to do way too much for the Cavs to be successful.
wow, good list.
I like Rosen, he usually has a point and usually doesn't go with the mainstream. CP was a surprise on that list and for sure to harsh. but even there Rosen has a valid point.
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