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    Why? Because I tell the guy meds worked for me & that they are not for everyone. And to talk to a therapist.

    WC just said to aviod them at all costs.

    But some people do need them.
    That's right. My intent is to stress they are a means of last resort. The side effects are generally severe enough to impair your life in other ways.

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    Only about 2% of "depressed" people are so bad that they need/benefit chemicals.

    The other 98% have ed themselves up with bad food, bad living, bad sleeping.

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    Only about 2% of "depressed" people are so bad that they need/benefit chemicals.

    The other 98% have ed themselves up with bad food, bad living, bad sleeping.
    One of the few things I'll agree with you at face value.

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    Only about 2% of "depressed" people are so bad that they need/benefit chemicals.

    The other 98% have ed themselves up with bad food, bad living, bad sleeping.
    Only .5% of what boutons_deux says is not gay.

    See, I can play with statistics with no factual basis as well.

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    Only about 2% of "depressed" people are so bad that they need/benefit chemicals.

    The other 98% have ed themselves up with bad food, bad living, bad sleeping.
    I used to think that before my mental state became really bad. I think it's possible to live without meds with a mild/moderate form of mental illness. However, if your problems are severe, it's hard to live without. At the same time, it's hard to imagine severe forms of mental illness unless you have exepriened them first-hand. Also, there are other forms of mental illness besides depression, which are even harder for people to identify with unless they have experienced the symptoms themselves.

    I haven't had much success with medication. But I have friends who are totally normal on medication and are suicidal without it. So, it works for a lot of people who truely need it.

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    Usually sacking up does the trick.
    For the record, for whoever PMed me, that was my response because the guy is an obvious troll. Example 1 and Example 2 for proof.

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    lol

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    For the record, for whoever PMed me, that was my response because the guy is an obvious troll. Example 1 and Example 2 for proof.
    wtf?

    Ok i admit that i was just joking aroud with those, but why the would you think I was messing aroud when something so serious affects my life, everyday so adversly.

    For the record, I honest to god started this thread for the sole reason of knowing how others felt. I know they can greatly help you but at the same time they can cause an addiction.

    One thing is for certain, i need help.

    I want to thank Cry Havoc and others that have really given me an insight about all this, i think i have made my decision, i will ask my psychiatrist to prescribe me the drugs and you can lock or delete this

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    ^ Stay away from the benzos such as xanax, imo. They stop working after a short period of time (generally) and you constantly have to up the dosage to feel the same effect. And the are extremly addictive, and don't do that much for your anxiety in my experience. And they are to get off from.

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    Yea i had a friend addicted to xanax

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    Pussy is the best antidepressent.

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    Only about 2% of "depressed" people are so bad that they need/benefit chemicals.

    The other 98% have ed themselves up with bad food, bad living, bad sleeping.
    I agree with this 100%.

    Figure out what is making you depressed and attack it.

    If you get low enough, you will hit a point where you either make changes (hard work) or kill yourself. If you can't summon up the nerve to kill yourself, you will have to start helping your situation.

    Drugs are the easy way out. Easy way outs don't exist.

    Obviously doesn't apply to those with actual bi-polar, etc disorders.
    Last edited by SonOfAGun; 07-31-2009 at 04:47 PM.

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    Anyone that says ^ is ing stupid.

    I have been this way since I was 13, never took anything for it before and some things help.

    Just started taking paxil today half tablet (10mg), will move to a full tablet in 4 days.

    Will keep updated

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    Only about 2% of "depressed" people are so bad that they need/benefit chemicals.

    The other 98% have ed themselves up with bad food, bad living, bad sleeping.
    Bingo. How many people have actually been anxious their whole life? Very few. People go through childhood and most of young adulthood with no problems. Then things like work, funerals, bills, drinking coffee every day and so on occur and anxiety builds.

    You need to think rationally about what is wrong before drugging yourself up. I can't believe this many people on ST are all drugged up personally. Apparently being medicated is as common as being myopic. There are no doubt people who do have mental illness, but make sure that that is the problem before you get dependent on prescription meds. A lot of the time what boutons said is true. Get good sleep, eat right, and well, stop worrying so much. Relax a bit and evaluate what causes this all in the first place.

    I don't see what was wrong with WC saying drugs are a last resort. They are. You don't go around and spend $300 on chemicals to ingest unless you need them. That stuff affects your mind and gets in your blood stream. The liver has to work to remove it. So you better damn well need it.

    Another thing is to ask a doctor and not a bunch of strangers.

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    Anyone on any?

    Please share your experience, it would really help me out.

    Gummi I suffer from anxiety and on occasion get depressed. I was on Lexapro for about three months and always felt detached so I stop taking it. I also have issues with phobias and sometimes panic attacks can set in. I hate to take medications so I go to a shrink instead. Psycho-therapy is the best medicine, no pun intended. As someone stated earlier depression, anxiety etc are caused by a sum of issues that have to be explored by a trained professional and though medications can be used a good therapist should/will never use them as a permanent solution. There is a book that my counselor recommended and though I have not purchased it the book gets great reviews and she swears by it. The Anxiety & Phobia Workbook, Fourth Edition (Paperback) Edmund J. Bourne. You know I have been so impressed with profession of psychology that I will me going back to school to work on my masters in counseling. This is coming from someone who earned a BBA in International Business. Someday I hope to have my own practice. I guess that is my way of dealing with this issue as well. Good Luck.

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    Only about 2% of "depressed" people are so bad that they need/benefit chemicals.

    The other 98% have ed themselves up with bad food, bad living, bad sleeping.
    I thought this way as well - when I was a small child. I developed depression and social anxiety disorder at age 11 and they went undiagnosed and untreated until I was 20, when I actually had a breakdown. I still won't take meds, probably to my own detriment. The side effects are horrible.

    Try not to assume that it hasn't happened to you because you're living a "clean", blameless lifestyle and the rest of us are not. It reeks of undeserved conceit.
    Last edited by desflood; 08-01-2009 at 04:45 PM.

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    Don't take it personally.

    "Studies have shown" that placebos work as well as expensive happy pills for nearly everybody.

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    Yesterday was my first day on half a tablet of paxil. I was really unstable emotionally and some one put me over the edge and I had a nervous breakdown. The person that I was with thought I was just making a show and acting but then I broke some things and changed my mood from yelling back to just laughing histerically and breaking down and crying in a corner. I don't remember ever feeling so low and the "Person" was extremely sorry afterwards and has been calling non stop to wonder If I'm feeling ok.

    This morning was another half tablet and I litterally went through . I can't describe it but I felt like a complete zombie for about 2 hrs, just extremely agitated and felt really really violent.

    I vowed to myself I was going to throw the paxil out the ing window because it made me feel so ed up on jsut a little.

    Then 2 hrs later I started to feel better to the point that I feel more normal than I have in 6 years.

    My vision is clearer, I am seeing like in HD, i can't explain it, it just feels like I'm actually a part of the world.

    I don't know if it is supposed to make you feel that ty initially, but I'm going to stay on it for about another week as a trial period.

    Hopefully I will be better

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    I had no idea the world around me was so clear. Everything seemed so dull , and I couldn't bear the sunlight, which is why I wouldn't go outdoors, the light sensitivity has decreased and I didn't feel disfigured out in the sun like a vampire

    I hope that my body is just adjusting and that it will get better

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    Gummi I suffer from anxiety and on occasion get depressed. I was on Lexapro for about three months and always felt detached so I stop taking it. I also have issues with phobias and sometimes panic attacks can set in. I hate to take medications so I go to a shrink instead. Psycho-therapy is the best medicine, no pun intended. As someone stated earlier depression, anxiety etc are caused by a sum of issues that have to be explored by a trained professional and though medications can be used a good therapist should/will never use them as a permanent solution. There is a book that my counselor recommended and though I have not purchased it the book gets great reviews and she swears by it. The Anxiety & Phobia Workbook, Fourth Edition (Paperback) Edmund J. Bourne. You know I have been so impressed with profession of psychology that I will me going back to school to work on my masters in counseling. This is coming from someone who earned a BBA in International Business. Someday I hope to have my own practice. I guess that is my way of dealing with this issue as well. Good Luck.
    You don't understand how it is for me, if i was just scared and anxious it would be ok.

    But when I'm anxious, my skin starts to sag, my face looks disfigured and feels MORE disfigured, I get bad derma is (on occasion), EXTREME sensitivity to light

    so the symptoms are too physical, its not something I can talk over, it ACTUALLY do have a bad chemical imbalance

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    "my skin starts to sag, my face looks disfigured and feels MORE disfigured, I get bad derma is (on occasion), EXTREME sensitivity to light"

    It's very tought disease to diagnose, but that sounds like it could be lupus, which can have psychiatric effects.

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    Lupus is autoimmune i believe? Isn't that life threatning?

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    nvm googled it..

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    had a CMP done, my blood count was....absolutely normal. Nothing out of the extraordinary, my Kidney function BUN/Creatinine was normal, liver enzymes, electrolytes, heart function was good.

    And its not relaly my skin thats sensitive to the light, its my eyes.

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