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It looks to me like M1 is asking for the same they were a few years ago. The UFC fearing this may be their last shot to land Fedor may just be more willing to cave in..
Fedor is all his clown of a manager has. He is going to squeeze every buck he can get out of him until he is old, broken and retired..
It looks to me like M1 is asking for the same they were a few years ago. The UFC fearing this may be their last shot to land Fedor may just be more willing to cave in..
he shouldn't bend over for these s. ufc might as well be the only game in town right now especially if they ink an espn deal. secondly, there is no one left for fedor to fight outside the ufc. mousasi would be an interesting fight but even mousasi has said he wants to come to the ufc. overeem would be good too but that guy needs to get to the ufc after his strikeforce deal is done. dana has done an excellent job growing the organization organically thru tuf and thru putting compe ors out of business/acquiring them. i think m-1 is just trying to take as much as they can get at this point since they know all the money is in the ufc. maybe they will accept a strikeforce offer but there is no way it would be more lucrative than a ufc deal. they would be shooting themselves in the leg if they denied ufc again because of that m-1 participation .
m-1 has no legs to stand on if they turn down another deal. i just looked at their website and clicked their 'about' section and it's funny to see every good fighter they list as repping them has basically left for the ufc
just give it up m-1....the game is over.
Great post Robbie, all excellent points. But i guess if Fedor's management feels going to the UFC may shrink their piece of his pie, they would rather he fight one at a time someplace else until there are no more fights left for him to take that anyone is willing to see. The thing is, Fedor has no track record of making a company money. Strikeforce is going to give him a huge deal. Why? Who is he going to fight and why would he make you so much money when he made really none for Affliction?? A long term deal with the UFC is all that makes sense. Break PPV records, with the fight with Brock and possibly others. It's his best option by a friggin mile..
Fedor-UFC talks ongoing
By Ken Pishna/MMAWeekly.com
an Internet report surfaced on Tuesday, stating Fedor Emelianenko and the Ultimate Fighting Championship were all but done negotiating a deal that would land the No. 1 ranked heavyweight in the world’s foremost mixed martial arts promotion, Emelianenko’s management gathered a news conference on Wednesday that far from confirmed the news
In fact, the news conference in Anaheim, Calif., only served to confirm counter reports that the two parties still have not finalized a contract.
The UFC made initial offers that M-1 Global countered, with company president Vadim Finkelchtein saying, “The UFC has their champions; we (M-1 Global) also have our champions and our representatives. We offered to have a co-promotion.”
He says that the UFC met the counter “very quietly.” The UFC resisted holding a co-promoted event, even in attempts to land Emelianenko.
“The UFC made a different offer that was a very good offer,” continued Finkelchtein, but it still hasn’t been enough to bridge the gap between the two parties and they remain at an impasse.
The door is still open for those that hope to see Fedor Emelianenko in the octagon across from Brock Lesnar or Randy Couture.
“Maybe not now, but maybe later,” Finkelchtein said of further progress being possible.
Fedor’s camp on Wednesday also announced that the fighter would grace the cover of the upcoming mixed martial arts video game from EA Sports.
“EA Sports (on Wednesday) will announce that Fedor Emelianenko will headline the EA Sports mixed martial arts fighter game due October next year, also along with Gegard Mousasi and Renato ‘Babalu’ Sobral, who will also be in the game,” announced Jerry Millen, M-1’s U.S. vice-president.
Although UFC President Dana White has remained steadfast in his comments that the UFC will not work with fighters that ink a deal with EA Sports, it is unlikely that Fedor’s already signed agreement with the video game company would create a chasm too wide to cross. Current UFC fighter Randy Couture also had a deal in place with EA Sports before he returned to the promotion last year.
The UFC, which has a press conference planned for Friday to announce as-yet unspecified news, has not publicly commented on negotiations with Emelianenko.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns
The UFC made a different offer that was a very good offer
This alone says that UFC doing everything to land Fedor. It's tough for them to make it co-promotion. How it would look like if Fedor will sign 3 fight deal? Is he going to be an M-1 champion all the time or what?
when did Ken start writing for MMAWeekly??????
I liked his old blog...
Good for Ken!
By: Carmichael Dave
CBS Radio MMA Host
Twitter.com/Carmichaeldave
So we all know the deal with M-1 and what they are saying about co-promotion. I'm not here to say who's right and wrong in this deal, but I can tell you some of the specifics that were offered to Fedor.....
- The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract. That's 5 mil a fight
- The UFC offered Fedor an immediate le shot
- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor's purse.
- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.
- The UFC also relented on allowing Fedor to compete in combat sambo.
Apparently, for good or bad, M-1 refuses to sign a deal unless the UFC agrees to co-promote.
I can tell you right now, the boys at ZUFFA will never, EVER agree to that. So if M-1 doesnt relent on that item alone, the Fedor to UFC talks are dead. Look for Team Emelianenko to turn to Strikeforce next. With co-promotions already in the books with Affliction, that shouldnt be a stopping point.
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That UFC sure does offer a slave contract
^ note extreme sarcasm
Good Lord
where did you find that carmichael dave report? i checked his site but i couldnt find anything.
also, do you guys know how this would compare to the pride contracts? i wasn't around following the game then so i would be curious to see if this is by far the biggest mma deal ever offered. i would imagine ppv's would put this thing somewhere around 9-10 mil for fedor/m-1's side.
The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract. That's 5 mil a fight
Which goes to show you how much these guys can get in bonuses. No way in they offered him 5 mil a fight base salary, not a chance.. What do you say to Brock and GSP making 400 grand before bonuses, and Fedor gets 5 mil..
They offered an insane deal and it looks like it still won't happen.. {Sigh}
i wonder if that 5 mil per is a max amount he can get after ppv bonus and stuff.
Has to be or it was 5 mil base with no bonuses. Either way with Fedor not being a huge draw in the US you know the guys that are big draws, must be racking up huge PPV and other bonuses likely putting them at a number close to that. The UFC never releases all the info on salary, but this gives us a good idea at just how lucrative the bonuses can be..
C dave posted it on the UG himself
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma....1498425&page=1
Evan you don't miss a beat bro..
told you he'd go to strikeforce
fedor is such a he needs better management
Maybe he meant 13, it would be more accurate.
All in all we will never know I guess, but we all know that UFC won't co-pomote and vadim need to co-promote.
So Srikeforce got Fedor
Strikeforce is a good company but come on Fedor, you want to go down as the best ever, get to the UFC and kick ass will ya..
And how can Strikeforce afford to pay him 5 mil a fight?? Will he take less just for the co-promote with M1??
He won't but his management will. I think fedor is mentally ill
This makes Fedor look like he is ducking the UFC, just my take..
I mean the best compe on by far is there and he was offered 5 friggin mil a fight..
yEA IF IT'S TRUE
Confirmation: M-1 President Vadim Finkelchtein Doesn't Want Fedor In The UFC
http://www.mmaforreal.com/2009/7/29/...resident-vadim
"Ah, the story that has had the fans of MMA hanging horse shoes and crossing their fingers. Will Fedor sign with the UFC? The terms of the deal that the UFC offered Fedor were posted earlier, and I'll post them here as a reminder:
5 fight contract worth 30 million dollars
Fedor can do his Sambo compe ions
M-1 gets a cut of the PPV in which Fedor fights
Fedor could wear all the M-1 clothing he wanted when he fought
M-1 and Fedor refused the deal unless the UFC agree to co-promote
I said it here that M-1 President Vadim Finklechtein didn't want Fedor to sign with the UFC. They will never get another deal like that in my opinion. Bloodyelbow's Luke Thomas chimes in:
The reality is this. We cannot fault M-1 for seeking to aggrandize its riches and use this opportunity to work with the UFC to benefit its efforts. But we also must recognize the stubbornness of M-1's co-promotion stipulation indicates they are attempting to make a statement. The UFC is offering unreal payment and exposure - exposure that literally no one else can provide save perhaps CBS - for the M-1 organization, to say nothing of how much they'll pocket from the PPV buys. Fedor will be allowed to wear as much M-1 signage as he likes. That means this deal accomplishes in meaningful ways the goal of promoting M-1. This deal is helpful to the M-1 brand and company.It's not as helpful as co-promotion, but the inexorable position that it's co-promotion or its nothing is the epitome of cutting off one's nose to spite their face.
I couldn't really say it any better than that. The simple fact that the UFC has made concessions on the Sambo issue as well as allowing Fedor to wear M-1 apparel speaks volumes in regards to their efforts to sign this guy. Whereas there is no evidence of Fedor/M-1 making concessions on their end, if so they should make that public. Also, let's not even talk about the amount of money they offered Fedor. This contract is worth 5 MILLION dollars per fight. The biggest PPV draw the UFC has(Brock Lesnar) isn't even making that, and Fedor hasn't even fought in the UFC yet. I'm all for giving respect to Fedor as the best HW right now, but he isn't making himself any new fans by turning down this contract.
Sure, all of the hardcore fans that witnessed his greatness in PRIDE will remember how great he was/is. However, to the slew of new fans that make up the majority of the MMA fanbase, Fedor will be nothing but a guy that ducked fighting in the largest and best MMA organization in the world if he doesn't sign with the UFC. I truly think his window of dominating the heavyweight division is closing pretty quickly anyways, so in the grand scheme of things it may not be such a big deal after all if he doesn't sign. But, there will probably always be that 'what if' factor and sometimes that isn't a bad thing."
Sure, all of the hardcore fans that witnessed his greatness in PRIDE will remember how great he was/is. However, to the slew of new fans that make up the majority of the MMA fanbase, Fedor will be nothing but a guy that ducked fighting in the largest and best MMA organization in the world if he doesn't sign with the UFC.
^^^^
Worth repeating since it's 100% true..
U cannot be serious!
If UFC really has an offer like this and they turn it down it's the biggest failure of a menagment (of one of the best spotsmen in the world) in the history of the human existance.
That's just ing ... I'm speachless
Fedor is my guy, he is the one that made me a mma fan. To hear things like that is a hearbreaking.
I'm gonna go to Russia and thow that Vadim guy under train or something
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