Rashad McCants to Dallas?

[IronMexican]

Where did this come from? The guy gives props to another team and you decide to insult his football team? Sand in the vagina much?

colt mccoy. I was this close to breaking my controller. That exact play 20 times wont work on madden. McCoy wont outrun Taylor Mays in Madden 11.

[Phillip]

-Hill will totally shut down Barrea no question. Defender/Scorer
-Ginobili vs Terry, No need to comment. Shooter/Slasher
-Finley vs McCants toss up Veteran Shooter
-Blair will totally destroy Gooden it's unfair. REBOUNDER 2nd chance pts.
-Hailslip and Thomas IDK From what I've seen on video I doubt TT can
even stay in front of him. Atheletic big who can hit the outside shot

Debating basketball... not your strong point.

Are you new to this?

[Spursfan092120]

colt mccoy. I was this close to breaking my controller. That exact play 20 times wont work on madden. McCoy wont outrun Taylor Mays in Madden 11.

LMAO..aww..talking ...Your QB was running the whole game...lol...I finally found coverage that worked and your ass was running all over the field with Corp..lol. I ran around a bit, sure..because you had me covered a couple of times...but don't go actin like you didn't run with the QB a lot more than me. I lead now, 2-1...

[IronMexican]

If this is the best bench in the NBA then I like our chances. It's a good group, but I highly doubt they would ever play together at one time. If they did they better score alot because they are not going to stop anyone. Bench vs Bench I still feel that the Spurs have a more effective group.
-Hill will totally shut down Barrea no question. Defender/Scorer
-Ginobili vs Terry, No need to comment. Shooter/Slasher
-Finley vs McCants toss up Veteran Shooter
-Blair will totally destroy Gooden it's unfair. REBOUNDER 2nd chance pts.
-Hailslip and Thomas IDK From what I've seen on video I doubt TT can
even stay in front of him. Atheletic big who can hit the outside shot

As you can see our bench offers much more than scoring and Three point shooting it's an effective balance


Granted the MAVS are much improved at some spots than a year ago, the Spurs however, are much improved at all positions this year. Its shaping up to be one of the funest seasons to be a Spurs or mavs fan can't wait. Good Luck to you guys!

This was you're best line. It's how I knew you weren't serious.

[Leetonidas]

McCants is a decent pickup. Tim Thomas is ing done though.

[Phillip]

This was you're best line. It's how I knew you weren't serious.

I'm still kinda dumbfounded that he thinks a guy who hasn't played a minute in the NBA will destory a proven near double double career guy, and a guy who hasnt played a minute since 2005 somehow wins his matchup against Tim Thomas because of a couple highlight vids he saw.

He has a lot to learn here. I'm trying to be nice to the noob.

[IronMexican]

LMAO..aww..talking ...Your QB was running the whole game...lol...I finally found coverage that worked and your ass was running all over the field with Corp..lol. I ran around a bit, sure..because you had me covered a couple of times...but don't go actin like you didn't run with the QB a lot more than me. I lead now, 2-1...

I ran cause you're DE's are like faster than my QB.

[D-ROB 50]

Debating basketball... not your strong point.

Are you new to this?

Going with the the mavs line up presented that group offered nothing but scoring the group I put up offered more that was my point. I wasnt trashing the line-up just not the smartest group to be put together, Whats your take? Finley/ McCants Okay you got me there, but Finley is a decent role player. Blair hmmmm, I think he is the real deal. And no debating basketball ..... not my strongest point. I only have 200+ post.

[D-ROB 50]

I'm still kinda dumbfounded that he thinks a guy who hasn't played a minute in the NBA will destory a proven near double double career guy, and a guy who hasnt played a minute since 2005 somehow wins his matchup against Tim Thomas because of a couple highlight vids he saw.

He has a lot to learn here. I'm trying to be nice to the noob.

Thanks for trying.
Had they not drafted Blair, Gooden would probably still a spur.....says the noob.

[Dunc n Dave]

McCants is the poster boy for volume shooters, shooting 39% FG last year.
However, I like the rest of the Mavs bench. Lots of fire power, but you still need another center.
Defense is still the issue for Dallas. Are they gonna cut a guy like Ross to make room for all these signings? He'll be more useful than you think.

[Phillip]

Going with the the mavs line up presented that group offered nothing but scoring the group I put up offered more that was my point. I wasnt trashing the line-up just not the smartest group to be put together, Whats your take? Finley/ McCants Okay you got me there, but Finley is a decent role player. Blair hmmmm, I think he is the real deal. And no debating basketball ..... not my strongest point. I only have 200+ post.

I don't think the Mavs plan on playing all 5 of their bench at the same time, just like the Spurs probably don't plan on playing all 5 of theirs either. Most teams don't do that period, unless its a blowout game. So comparing them in that sense is kinda dumb.

[sribb43]

Damn, could Spurs fans overrate Blair and Haslip anymore

[Phillip]

Thanks for trying.
Had they not drafted Blair, Gooden would probably still a spur.....says the noob.

I think it's because the Spurs needed to go younger, while the Mavs are currently in a win-now situation.

Doesn't mean Blair is better than Gooden. Just means the Spurs are more interested in developing a young guy, than keeping an older player around for another year.

[DAF86]

I can't say for sure, because Blair is a rookie and Mahinmi is practically a rookie too. But if everything goes as I think it will, the Spurs bench will be better than the Mavs bench.

[DAF86]

I think it's because the Spurs needed to go younger, while the Mavs are currently in a win-now situation.

Doesn't mean Blair is better than Gooden. Just means the Spurs are more interested in developing a young guy, than keeping an older player around for another year.

I doubt there's a team in the league with more of a "win now" at ude than the Spurs.

[Phillip]

Correction, Wilt won 2 rings. The reason he didn't win more was because the Celtics had 3 or 4 hall of famers on any given team throughout the 60s plus a nice bench at all times, the 6ers and warriors on the other hand only had Wilt on their team and it was not until the 1967 team that the 6ers had a solid group of players around Wilt. Then when Wilt went to the Lakers they had a great top 3, but they didn't have any more depth past that. It was not until that 72 team that Wilt and West had better players around them.

Even Jordan didn't win anything against the stacked Celtics teams of the 80s. No single player can make a championship team and that was the problem with Wilt, KG, Alex English, Jordan's 80s teams, kobe in recent years before 08. All of those players were great but their cast was meh. Super man couldn't win a championship with only 2 other good players, he would need a top 7 at least.

And you can't say the 60s was the weakest era of basketball. The best players of today are throw backs to the 60s. From the 60s to the mid 70s the game was more fundamental. In order to be in the NBA you had to have had the whole package. Shooting, rebounding, passing, ball handling, defending. A great example is Don Nelson. He turned out to be a very good player, but before he got to the Celtics people said he would never be a good player in the NBA because he couldn't rebound. So basically Bill Russell told him "I'll take care of the rebounding you just do what you do." On any other team back then that would not have worked.

Look at Willis Reed. I would take him over most "star" forwards of today because Willis played an all around game. He could shoot he could pound it inside, he could put the ball on the ground and he was the leader on some of the smartest teams of all time.

Do you think 50 years from now people will look at today's game as being all that great? Sure the names of Jordan, Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, and LeBron will live on for a long time, but do you think even the semi-hard core fans in their 20s will remember Manu Ginobili, Amare, Rodman, Pippin or Gasol? I highly doubt it.

lol, greatest and most powerful living being in universal history only has 2 rings

[Phillip]

I doubt there's a team in the league with more of a "win now" posture than the Spurs.

Dallas.

Because the Spurs have had too many old rotting corpses over the past few years.

[Phillip]

I can't say for sure, because Blair is a rookie and Mahinmi is practically a rookie too. But if everything goes as I think it will, the Spurs bench will be better than the Mavs bench.

of course! you're a spurfan!

spurfans could add mark madsen to their team, and find ways to say that he would outplay Shawn Marion in a head-to-head matchup.

[DAF86]

of course! you're a spurfan!

spurfans could add mark madsen to their team, and find ways to say that he would outplay Shawn Marion in a head-to-head matchup.

I consider myself a very objective poster. I said the last couple of season that we weren't the top contender to won it all. And if LA signs Odom I'll say the same this season.

The Spurs bench IMO will be:

Hill- Great young PG, very athletic, slasher, decent shooter and very good defender.
Manu- Best 6th man on the league. (If Not Mason, 42% 3pt shooter and clutch as )
Blair- I expect him to post numbers close to 6/8 pts per game and 6/8 rbds per game.
Mahinmi-a young 6'11'' guy with some offensive skills.

And if neither of this youngsters match the expectations we still have Bonner (I think he was the best three point shooter last season, if not one of the best), Ratliff (4th in all the league in blocks per 48 minutes) and Haislip who seems like a talented bigman that can shoot the 3 and a great shot blocker.

[Phillip]

lol Mavericks with no rings.

lol steven a smith

[dirk4mvp]

yes, please.

[D-ROB 50]

[quote=Phillip;3598929

Gooden is a very good rebounder, and while not being much of a shotblocker, [B]he plays solid man defense.[/B]

I would have to disagree here, Gooden is a liability on the defensive end. We thought the spurs would be able to disguise his defficiencies with team defense and he was still late on rotations and such. Man to man he did worse. Thats prob why he had no playing time in the Mavs series. Good aggressive rebounder....yup, but defensively he cant handle the bigs in the west.

[Spursfan092120]

I ran cause you're DE's are like faster than my QB.

lol...that would be Sergio Kindle...keep an eye out for him this year. And my DE on the other side is strong, but slow, so I went with Keenan Robinson at the LB...lol...That's why Texas is so damn good at sacking the QB..

[Phillip]

I would have to disagree here, Gooden is a liability on the defensive end. We thought the spurs would be able to disguise his defficiencies with team defense and he was still late on rotations and such. Man to man he did worse. Thats prob why he had no playing time in the Mavs series. Good aggressive rebounder....yup, but defensively he cant handle the bigs in the west.

First, learn how to quote.

When he was with the Cavs, he seemed to play some pretty decent defense.

It's not really fair to make a judgement like that just because of how he played in like 10 games with a new team.

[D-ROB 50]

First, learn how to quote.

When he was with the Cavs, he seemed to play some pretty decent defense.

It's not really fair to make a judgement like that just because of how he played in like 10 games with a new team.

ohh,.... like this. Thanks for the tip. It's nothing new, thats been the knock on him for years, come on, Fabs out played him in the finals....FABs, well he probably just outsmarted him.