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    How can you be mad as a Spurs fan Bruno? I understand you being upset as a FNT fan, but as a Spurs fan?

    Are you really claiming to be upset because you think TP might not re-sign over the issue?
    i think if the spurs are doing the same thing in 2 years with the qualification for the olympics, he'll not resign.

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    How can you be mad as a Spurs fan Bruno? I understand you being upset as a FNT fan, but as a Spurs fan?

    Are you really claiming to be upset because you think TP might not re-sign over the issue?
    I'm mainly mad as a FNT fan.

    Now as a Spurs fan, you surely would be damn happy to see Spurs being a lottery team for Duncan's last year because TP is gone. It woudl eb an awesome way to end Duncan's career...

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    So you're argument why TP is seriously injury is that he doesn't say " you" to his boss ?
    He could just say no. It'd be pretty easy for him to say that he's going to play through a minor ankle injury especially since the Spurs didn't/couldn't force Manu to stop from playing with an ankle that required surgery.

    You're the one calling it "very minor".

    Since day one, the report about TP's injury was that he would rest for few days before starting to practice progressively back.
    Yeah those "few days" were almost a week ago. I haven't seen anything about him starting to practice. Being able to walk without a limp doesn't mean he's anywhere close to even practicing.

    If he were on the practice court, I doubt the Spurs could drag him back to San Antonio kicking and screaming.

    The progression of "out a few days" to "maybe out for the Italy game" to the Spurs wanting him to come back to San Antonio sounds more serious than the initial diagnosis.

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    I don't think the Spurs calling Tony home for a checkup is going to impact whether he re-signs with S.A. or not. Pretty much every team in the league would call someone home if they thought there was a reason. He'll come home, get checked and go back to France next week to play (if he's healthy).

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    He could just say no. It'd be pretty easy for him to say that he's going to play through a minor ankle injury especially since the Spurs didn't/couldn't force Manu to stop from playing with an ankle that required surgery.



    Yeah those "few days" were almost a week ago. I haven't seen anything about him starting to practice. Being able to walk without a limp doesn't mean he's anywhere close to even practicing.

    If he were on the practice court, I doubt the Spurs could drag him back to San Antonio kicking and screaming.

    The progression of "out a few days" to "maybe out for the Italy game" to the Spurs wanting him to come back to San Antonio sounds more serious than the initial diagnosis.
    he started practicing, he started running and all, he was truly "out a few days"

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    I understand this is frustrating for our French fans...but you have to understand what is at stake here. This year is not just another year. The FO has elected to head into tax territory in a down economy while other teams are running scared. They are doing this with the hopes that it will yield a le...a le that is unattainable without Parker. I fully support them wanting to see him with their own eyes...because if it was my money I would want it too.

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    I don't think the Spurs calling Tony home for a checkup is going to impact whether he re-signs with S.A. or not. Pretty much every team in the league would call someone home if they thought there was a reason. He'll come home, get checked and go back to France next week to play (if he's healthy).
    isn't it smarter to send the spurs doctors in France? Now he may miss th most important game of the tournament

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    he started practicing, he started running and all, he was truly "out a few days"
    Did he start running or start practicing? Running doesn't equal practice.

    If the Spurs came to him and said that they want him to fly to San Antonio to get checked out, TP could have just said "No, I'm find .... look I'm even practicing" and the Spurs couldn't have done anything.

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    I'm mainly mad as a FNT fan.

    Now as a Spurs fan, you surely would be damn happy to see Spurs being a lottery team for Duncan's last year because TP is gone. It woudl eb an awesome way to end Duncan's career...
    This is a pretty wild claim. So you think that if the team is doing well next year and the year after, with Tim still on it, and with all of the relationship and love built up over time, that TP would leave?

    He might leave, but I doubt it would be because of this. You are seemingly making claims that do not make much sense because you are angry.

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    i think if the spurs are doing the same thing in 2 years with the qualification for the olympics, he'll not resign.
    If he stays healthy, why would anything be a problem. If he is not, I would be happy to see them be extra cautious.

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    Did he start running or start practicing? Running doesn't equal practice.

    If the Spurs came to him and said that they want him to fly to San Antonio to get checked out, TP could have just said "No, I'm find .... look I'm even practicing" and the Spurs couldn't have done anything.
    but there's something wrong, why can't the spurs doctor come to france to check on him. It makes no sense.

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    He could just say no. It'd be pretty easy for him to say that he's going to play through a minor ankle injury especially since the Spurs didn't/couldn't force Manu to stop from playing with an ankle that required surgery.
    He said that he didn't understand at all why Spurs are calling him back. He wouldn't say that if he was seriously injured.
    I don't know how more clear it can be. You want to be right when you aren't, timvppp.

    Yeah those "few days" were almost a week ago. I haven't seen anything about him starting to practice. Being able to walk without a limp doesn't mean he's anywhere close to even practicing.

    If he were on the practice court, I doubt the Spurs could drag him back to San Antonio kicking and screaming.

    The progression of "out a few days" to "maybe out for the Italy game" to the Spurs wanting him to come back to San Antonio sounds more serious than the initial diagnosis.
    Parker should have started to practice at the end of the week. He wasn't late on his initial schedule.

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    Maybe because if you remove someone from a situation you can think more clearly and have less people to argue with?

    If he feels ok and has the FNT pressuring him while the Spurs are checking him out in France, it could cause serious strain on everyone.

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    Bottomline is that it sucks Parker got injured yet again. Perfect scenario is that he would have led France to the championship and go into the NBA season ultra confident and ready to win another championship. He could have gained good experience that way and the Spurs had a long enough summer that he should have been able to recoup for next NBA season.

    But he's hurt so that messes up the whole equation. The Spurs would be dumb to risk playing through an injury. If you are the Spurs, you pull all the strings possible to have him shut it down because ankle injuries can linger. Even minor ones.

    The ball is in TP's court to then decide whether he wants to listen to the Spurs or ignore it and continue to try to play. He apparently decided to show commitment to the Spurs by following their request. I'm not sure what TP's motivation is for listening and not ignoring but I'm guessing that Manu's situation last year played a role in his thinking. Manu ignoring the Spurs' pleas basically derailed the entire season for the Spurs.

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    I think there is a lot of people here, who does not understand the importance of the international compe ions for Europeans, South Americans, Africans...

    This is huge !

    The greatest compe ion on the planet is the football World Cup.

    For a professional player the greatest compe ions are the international ones.

    Maybe it's not the case for the american players, i don't know, but i can tell you that for europeans players it is really huge.

    Tony was 16 when the French football team became the World Champion, and he absolutely wants to do something with the basketball French NT. I mean... really !

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    Maybe because if you remove someone from a situation you can think more clearly and have less people to argue with?

    If he feels ok and has the FNT pressuring him while the Spurs are checking him out in France, it could cause serious strain on everyone.
    so traveling for hours is better for tony's recovery?

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    You know what is good... The dream of Tony is to win something with French NT and to participate in the Olympics.

    So the Spurs FO are killing his dreams. I am sure Tony will be pleased with that.
    The French team has zero chance to come out of the Europe matches and get an Olympic berth. The only chance they will ever have is if they host the summer Olympics, and get the host nation exemption. They're just not very ing good, even with Parker. I'm tired of him ing up his ankles chasing the impossible.

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    This is a pretty wild claim. So you think that if the team is doing well next year and the year after, with Tim still on it, and with all of the relationship and love built up over time, that TP would leave?

    He might leave, but I doubt it would be because of this. You are seemingly making claims that do not make much sense because you are angry.
    I'm not making wild claim, I just know what the NT situation is and how TP is attached to it.

    Wednesday game against Italy is crucial for the NT. If they lost by a huge margin, the team won't play a high level game before 2011.

    If Spurs doctor confirms that the injury is minor, TP doesn't play against Italy and French NT lost by a lot of points, you can count on Parker being very angry towards Spurs.

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    well i still think tony will be back soon though

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    He said that he didn't understand at all why Spurs are calling him back. He wouldn't say that if he was seriously injured.
    I don't know how more clear it can be. You want to be right when you aren't, timvppp.
    I'm not trying to be right about anything. I'm just pointing out that if TP had a minor injury, he didn't have to listen to the Spurs. He must understand on some level because he voluntarily went back to San Antonio. The Spurs couldn't make him. They'd get in trouble by even making any small threat to him.

    You want to equate "I don't understand" to "I'm 100% healthy". Those two things aren't the same.

    Parker should have started to practice at the end of the week. He wasn't late on his initial schedule.
    Did he say he was going to start practicing? If so, why was Italy in doubt? A week to prepare for Italy if he could practice should be plenty.

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    The French team has zero chance to come out of the Europe matches and get an Olympic berth. The only chance they will ever have is if they host the summer Olympics, and get the host nation exemption. They're just not very ing good, even with Parker. I'm tired of him ing up his ankles chasing the impossible.
    It is difficult to be good when all our starters are ed by the NBA.

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    so traveling for hours is better for tony's recovery?
    Well, it;s not like he's walking back to SA.. These guys are pampered when they travel. I'm sure he can manage the travel quite well. just the Spurs taking no chances and probably wanting to do more in-depth tests.

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    Did he say he was going to start practicing? If so, why was Italy in doubt? A week to prepare for Italy if he could practice should be plenty.
    tony was out of shape when he came, so this "really" minor injury could have delayed his first game.

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    I'm not making wild claim, I just know what the NT situation is and how TP is attached to it.

    Wednesday game against Italy is crucial for the NT. If they lost by a huge margin, the team won't play a high level game before 2011.

    If Spurs doctor confirms that the injury is minor, TP doesn't play against Italy and French NT lost by a lot of points, you can count on Parker being very angry towards Spurs.
    Yes, he might be very angry, but that does not mean that he would not sign because of it. Maybe, but that is a pretty serious claim to make, especially since it will be 2 years down the road.

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    Maybe it was two years ago. What was it again, Tony hurt his ankle or his finger. The French doctors said it was fine, he played with the injury and it got worse. I think he missed part of training camp or something. I've searched, but this was all I could find. http://www.nba.com/fantasy/fantasy_p...9/07&type=news

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