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    the lakers didn't get a repeat til the late 80's you dumb bandwagoner


    You need to get that selective amnesia treated

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    LA's Offer
    Year 1: $7,127,430
    Year 2: $7,875,810
    Year 3: $8,624,190
    Year 4: $9,372,570 (team option)
    Total: $33,000,000

    Based on 10.5% raises. However, only $23,627,430 is guaranteed

    Miami's Offer (full MLE)
    Year 1: $5,854,000
    Year 2: $6,322,320
    Year 3: $6,790,640
    Year 4: $7,258,960
    Year 5: $7,727,280
    Total: $33,953,200

    Based on 8% raises. If Odom makes more than $953,200 in 2013-2014, the Lakers' deal is better. He'll be 34, and there's no telling what he'll have left in the tank then.

    I'm kind of puzzled, though. The Lakers could conceivably cut him loose after three years, and he'll be 33 with limited market value by then. Combined with the taxes that will cost him ~$660K, and Miami's offer is bigger by ~$1.2M. A close decision, and I'm not surprised that he stayed in LA (they're a much better team), but it's much closer than I thought it would be.

    Kudos to Kupchak, et al, because they saved quite a bit of money.
    Better deal, yes! But In Florida He Doesnt Pay Taxes...... And Now with Obama Taxing the Rich A Higher % he would of made about the same........ But it doesnt even Matter...... Spurs will beat them come playoff time.....

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    the lakers didn't get a repeat til the late 80's you dumb bandwagoner
    LOL, dude doesn't even know his own franchise history. Most of them probably do not.

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    Unlike the Spurs the Lakers have never had issues repeating.

    they've already made back to back Finals appearances with the same team.

    Unlike the Lakers, the Spurs have never had issues with losing in the NBA Finals, like the La La Land Fakers who seem to be #1 @ losing in the Finals. That is just flat out embarrASSing!.

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    In other news...

    Duncan, "Bring it on"....

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    and now the Spurs MUST trade for SJAX
    Agreed.

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    When Odom was guarding Parker, TP became almost useless on the court
    Yeah They Could do that Last year, because we had Nobody else to step up...... I hope they Try that this year....... Ginobil, jefferson will bust that Ass

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    Spurs are much improved. If we have a healthy Timmy and Manu come playoff time with the new additions, they can beat the Lakers even with Odom..

    L.A is better also, I don't see the Spurs winning over L.A in the playoffs, the Spurs don't have enough quality big men. Boston is the only team that stands a chance next year.

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    Portland is the Lakers kryptonite. They are just as big, young, and fast as L.A. If they meet up in the playoffs early, L.A. wont get to the WFC. It'll be Denver and S.A.

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    Maybe not the best news as a Spur fan, but as a basketball fan this is fantastic news. Can't wait to see the games between these two next year!

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    I wanted odom to sign with the heat, nevertheless, this news makes the coming season more exciting. spurs-lakers is a must see, even if it's a regular season game. Let's get it on!

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    don't you guys get it. the league held this up.......the heat were gonna get this guy, but the league can't afford the spurs to win anything......don't you get it.

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    L.A is better also, I don't see the Spurs winning over L.A in the playoffs, the Spurs don't have enough quality big men. Boston is the only team that stands a chance next year.
    what kind of fan are you? you must be one of those fair weather fans
    look what's under your name jackass! I'm glad they got Odom back, I didn't want to hear any bull excuses when the Spurs whip their asses next year in the playoffs!

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    Odom and Gasol suck anyway if they have to play a healthy Tim Duncan.

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    You need to get that selective amnesia treated
    so you're already penciling in 09-10 because of Lamar Odom?

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    what kind of fan are you? you must be one of those fair weather fans
    look what's under your name jackass! I'm glad they got Odom back, I didn't want to hear any bull excuses when the Spurs whip their asses next year in the playoffs!
    A realistic appraisal of our chances are small sorry, for the same reasons we lost this season. Being a true fan and Knowing what your team inefficiencies are and calling them out does not make you less than a fan.

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    A realistic appraisal of our chances are small sorry, for the same reasons we lost this season. Being a true fan and Knowing what your team inefficiencies are and calling them out does not make you less than a fan.
    Did you fall into a coma in April and woke up today staring at the news on TV?
    So you think a healthy Manu and TD won't make a difference? Dice and RJ won't mean ? rebounding nut called Blair wont' help? Have you looked at the Lakers bench lately? they are about as weak as your faith.. The Lakers looked "good" last year because they played a weak ass Jazz team, a Rockets team w/out 2 of their best players and a Denver team that was just happy to be there and folded. Then they played a Magic team who was also just happy to be there and folded..

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    Did you fall into a coma in April and woke up today staring at the news on TV?
    So you think a healthy Manu and TD won't make a difference? Dice and RJ won't mean ? rebounding nut called Blair wont' help? Have you looked at the Lakers bench lately? they are about as weak as your faith.. The Lakers looked "good" last year because they played a weak ass Jazz team, a Rockets team w/out 2 of their best players and a Denver team that was just happy to be there and folded. Then they played a Magic team who was also just happy to be there and folded..
    where do Matt and Michael fit into all this bench talk, and I still don't see the center rotation being complete yet still need some more work and a few pieces to give L.A center rotation a good run

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    Never in doubt really. He was just using Miami as leverage. He could have signed with the Heat in the first week for this amount.

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    What else is new, we know what he was doing and going for all along. Never in question IMO.

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    where do Matt and Michael fit into all this bench talk, and I still don't see the center rotation being complete yet still need some more work and a few pieces to give L.A center rotation a good run
    You don't think our bigs of TD, Dice, Ratliff, and Ian compare to their bigs? A few pieces? you can only have so many players on a team, who would you suggest? Bonner is another reason we were weak last year, he's a Steve Kerr type of player in a big mans' body.. We are all hoping that Finley doesn't get many minutes next year anyway.. So you think the Lakers bench is stacked? We are gonna have a much better Spurs squad out there this year. I still don't know why you aren't giving us a chance next year.. I sure as hope you don't think the Mavs are better than us with your reasoning..

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    You don't think our bigs of TD, Dice, Ratliff, and Ian compare to their bigs? A few pieces? you can only have so many players on a team, who would you suggest? Bonner is another reason we were weak last year, he's a Steve Kerr type of player in a big mans' body.. We are all hoping that Finley doesn't get many minutes next year anyway.. So you think the Lakers bench is stacked? We are gonna have a much better Spurs squad out there this year. I still don't know why you aren't giving us a chance next year.. I sure as hope you don't think the Mavs are better than us with your reasoning..
    Atleast he hit threes in the playoffs (Kerr) for us and so on, Bonner has done what? He misses all of them late in the year, he is a bum trapped in a big mans body!

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    So, any chance Odom is actually health enough to play 75% of the games he signed up for?

    I'll echo all the basketball fans here; I'm happy. Let's beat the Lakers at full strength. Let's let the Lakers be media favorites all season long. Let's go into the playoffs as the underdog and beat the ever-loving crap out of absolutely everybody. I'm glad the Lakers signed Odom. As far as I'm concerned, that's one more Laker I'll get to see cry.

    Come on Lakers, give the Spurs your best shot. They'll be waiting.

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    Clearly, Odom was trying to artificially create leverage where it didn't exist. The logical response when you get called out on it, is to save face and move on; instead Odom tucked his tail between his legs and took a bad deal.

    In the state of California:
    If your income range is $1,000,001 and over, your tax rate on every dollar of income earned is 10.3%.
    It's probably a safe bet to say the Lakers won't pick up that 4th year option....making this decision clearly a bad financial decision; which isn't to say he didn't already know this fact.

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    A Night of Ugh


    Lamar Odom has resigned with the Lakers. This solidifies the Lakers as prohibitive favorites to win the le. But I’m not worried. The Spurs have a realistic shot at reclaiming the crown. They’ll have to fire on all cylinders and catch a couple breaks, though. Odom is a difficult match up for the Spurs.


    But hear this: don’t sweat it. The Spurs are pretty damn smart at what they do; from where I sit, they’ve already got this covered. If the sick with talent Lakers prove one player too much for the Spurs, San Antonio can piece together a nice package of expiring contracts in January or February in return for an impact player on a salary dump. Matt Bonner, Mike Finley, and Roger Mason Jr. can put the Spurs within striking distance of 10-12 million dollar player. The contracts of Malik Hairston, Marcus Williams, Marcus Haislip and Theo Ratliff are all movable as well. In addition to their expirings, they could sweeten any potential deal with draft picks and/or the rights to Tiago Splitter. San Antonio has held a trump card back in the form of expiring contracts.

    As we move into the season, remember that the Spurs have left themselves some wiggle room to gear up for the Lakers
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    Elsewhere, Tony Parker’s recently injured ankle is enough of a concern to the Spurs that they’ve brought him back to San Antonio for tests. Parker and the French press are playing the injury off as minor, and painting a picture of an unnecessarily cautious Spurs front office. But can you blame the front office for erring on the side of caution? Last season ended before it began when Manu Ginobili injured his ankle during international play.

    If Parker’s injury is even remotely serious, he needs to shut himself down. I don’t begrudge guys for playing for their countries. In fact, I love Parker’s leadership as it relates to his national team and aspirations with ASVEL. In a vacuum I not only want Parker to play for his national team, I’ll promise to cheer for him all along the way. Ultimately, such commitments are good for the player and good for basketball. But at some point his debt to country must be counter balanced against an obligation to his employer and, more importantly, teammates. Or, to his teammates and, more importantly, employer. It’s a fine line that divides one form of loyalty from another. I’d say more, but I’m all awash in ambivalence. And I’m more than a little anxious to hear about the test results.

    If you’re like me, then your feelings about San Antonio players playing in international compe ion race around like the hormones of a pubescent teen. My guess is that Peter Holt would like to pay tax bills while watching Tony Parker make baskets rather than watching him make eyes at Eva from a seat behind the bench. But it’s difficult for me to fully appreciate the value that playing for one’s country has to internationals. American fans have a difficult time wrapping their mind around the fact that international players value gold medals more than gold trophies.

    A thread over at SpursTalk touches on this. If you make your way over, notice the difference of opinion between American and French posters. The Americans approach this question from a best-for-the-team, protect-your-assets standpoint. The French posters see the Spurs’ (over?)zealous concern for Parker as potentially damaging to his relationship with the franchise. What if Parker is really okay and San Antonio’s doctors come to the same conclusions as the French doctors? If France struggles without Parker and fails to qualify for play in September, will Parker hold a grudge against San Antonio for sabotaging the aspirations of his national team?

    It’s a complicated debate. It’s complicated by the fact that neither position is arguing something as simple as right and wrong.


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