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  1. 07-31-2009 #26
    ambchang
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHouse
    You just don't with this man.

    The old poker playing, 20-year old ing, degenerate just schooled the out of two agents.



    As long as this man is at the helm of the Laker franchise I simply do not worry about the team.
    You are 20 years old?
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  2. 07-31-2009 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamStone
    And, yet that still doesn't address my rebuttal to DrHouse's suggested claims that Jerry Buss is a genius negotiator.
    you have become quite bitter over the last year Jammie. Everything alright man?

    In regards to your statement, no GM or owner is perfect. Everyone makes mistakes, the important thing is that you learn from them. The Lakers got burned 3 consecutive times with players who had great contract years and then fizzled (Walton, Vujacic, and to a lesser extent Bynum...because of his injuries). But these are all ROLE players, with the exception of Bynum who still has a very good shot of breaking out next season and thus vindicating the decision to lock him up early. It's not even remotely as bad as throwing $120 million at Rashard Lewis, or $9 million at a 35+ year old Jason Kidd, etc.

    They went into this offseason, already way over the cap, knowing that they would have to play hardball to try and save some money. They could have easily been bent over by Ariza's and Lamar's agents and payed them way over what they should have, instead the Lakers get Ron Artest for the MLE and Odom resigned for well below what he's worth IMHO. Imagine if Buss threw $8-9 million at Ariza and he had a very subpar year? He took a calculated risk and it paid off. Now we got Artest for the MLE. Very shrewd negotiating and in the end the Lakers kept their core and upgraded with Artest. All in all, a great offseason.
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  3. 07-31-2009 #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by z0sa
    stop groping that old man's balls and remember the 12.5mil Bynum's receiving next season.
    Rather pay a 12.5mil to an up an coming 21 year old center that averaged 26, 14 and 3 the last 5 games before he went down than 14 million to an extremely sexual shooting forward that plays no defense and shot 43% last season.
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  4. 07-31-2009 #29
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    Jerry Buss first offered Odom 3 years for $27 million. The 4 year deal for $36 is unconfirmed.

    Jerry Buss ends up giving Odom a contract with guaranteed $27 million.

    I'm just saying there's no reason for you to praise him for playing hardball when he ended up paying Odom exactly what he offered in the first place.
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  5. 07-31-2009 #30
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    Odumb had no leverage brah.

    I could have signed him to the Lakers.
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  6. 07-31-2009 #31
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    The most money Odom could have gotten was for less than $7 million per year.

    Buss pays him a guaranteed $9 million per year.

    Way to school Odom and his agent.
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  7. 07-31-2009 #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamStone
    I'm just saying there's no reason for you to praise him for playing hardball when he ended up paying Odom exactly what he offered in the first place.
    Here's the genius:::the clincher all along for Odom was Artest's presence. More than anything else Artest is the reason Odom stayed in Los Angeles. Buss knew that the instant Odom recruited Artest. Buss bypassed Ariza like he was an Indian and ended it there at Artest. If Buss pays Ariza, he can't pay Artest, and then Odom listens to every f'in hump twixt the coasts because Artest ain't waitin' for him. Buss paid Artest, but, it was a 2 for 1 coup.

    And it's glorious.
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  8. 07-31-2009 #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_Blessings
    Rather pay a 12.5mil to an up an coming 21 year old center that averaged 26, 14 and 3 the last 5 games before he went down than 14 million to an extremely sexual shooting forward that plays no defense and shot 43% last season.
    Why are Laker fans dogging him out? He just saved you guys season by resigning,(I don't give a what anybody says, you guys weren't winning this year without him) and was a huge factor in you winning a championship. , I don't even think you would have gotten passed my injury riddled team without him. Then you have the gall to bring up that worthless, brittle, overpayed, you call a center like he's a future hall of famer? I would have left just to spit in the face of ungrateful fans like you.
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  9. 07-31-2009 #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Franchise
    I would have left just to spit in the face of ungrateful fans like you.
    & he most probably would have if he hadn't talked Artest into coming to Los Angeles before he entered into negotiations with Buss.
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  10. 07-31-2009 #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakaluva
    You talking bout Bynum or Yao?
    - "Right between the eyes!"

    - Kevin Harlan - TnT
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakaluva
    You talking bout Bynum or Yao?
    To be fair both.
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  12. 07-31-2009 #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamStone
    The most money Odom could have gotten was for less than $7 million per year.

    Buss pays him a guaranteed $9 million per year.

    Way to school Odom and his agent.
    no . Lakerfan so stupid can't compute that.
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  13. 07-31-2009 #38
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    Buss started at $27 million.

    Buss ended at $27 million.
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  14. 07-31-2009 #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culburn369
    Buss started at $27 million.

    Buss ended at $27 million.
    Actually, Buss saved 2 to 3 mil. The original offer was 27 for 3 years and 3 mil buyout on the 4th year. New deal was 25 for three years with 2 mil on buyout.
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  15. 07-31-2009 #40
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    So how many of you Laker fans would be making threads like this if Lamar had walked and gone to play a long side Wade?
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  16. 07-31-2009 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_Blessings
    Rather pay a 12.5mil to an up an coming 21 year old center that averaged 26, 14 and 3 the last 5 games before he went down than 14 million to an extremely sexual shooting forward that plays no defense and shot 43% last season.




    OH THE LAST 5 GAMES BEFORE HE WENT DOWN DID HE!?!?!?!?!?!
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  17. 07-31-2009 #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHouse
    You just don't with this man.

    The old poker playing, 20-year old ing, degenerate just schooled the out of two agents.



    As long as this man is at the helm of the Laker franchise I simply do not worry about the team.
    Suck him off why don't you...
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  18. 07-31-2009 #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culburn369
    Buss started at $27 million.

    Buss ended at $27 million.
    And now Odom is going to kick back, take it easy, and play like crap that he got his contract now...
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  19. 07-31-2009 #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by crc21209
    And now Odom is going to kick back, take it easy, and play like crap that he got his contract now...
    Check my record, crc, I worried about that exact scenario. But, wtf else could we do, Buss figures that Artest coming in ringless will sustain the campaign and puts pressure on Odom not lay down in front of his pal.
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  20. 07-31-2009 #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culburn369
    Here's the genius:::the clincher all along for Odom was Artest's presence. More than anything else Artest is the reason Odom stayed in Los Angeles. Buss knew that the instant Odom recruited Artest. Buss bypassed Ariza like he was an Indian and ended it there at Artest. If Buss pays Ariza, he can't pay Artest, and then Odom listens to every f'in hump twixt the coasts because Artest ain't waitin' for him. Buss paid Artest, but, it was a 2 for 1 coup.

    And it's glorious.

    Not going to be so glorious when Artest is caught trying to molest Kobe's daughter.
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  21. 07-31-2009 #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejuan Blair
    Not going to be so glorious when Artest is caught trying to molest Kobe's daughter.
    Just curious what would make di able thoughts like that even enter your mind. Even more baffling is the fact you felt the need to share it. What a .
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  22. 07-31-2009 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrHouse
    You just don't with this man.

    The old poker playing, 20-year old ing.
    riding his nuts huh?
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  23. 07-31-2009 #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejuan Blair
    Not going to be so glorious when Artest is caught trying to molest Kobe's daughter.
    Cobb is right, Dejuan.
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  24. 07-31-2009 #49
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    lol @ throwing poker player term in there. who doesn't play poker these days?
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  25. 07-31-2009 #50
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    lol Lakers
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