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    I'm open to learning, give me the name of some players who play their position drastically different and I will make an effort to watch them and learn.
    every position on the soccer field is drastically different and has different strategy. Every country has different strategy. Soccer is as much a chessgame as basketball or football. Just because they don't draw up every single play and stop the action for every damn play(what I hate about Football), does not mean there is no strategy.

    they only thing Football is more similar to chess is because action is stopped for every single play. Boring.

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    I'm open to learning, give me the name of some players who play their position drastically different and I will make an effort to watch them and learn.

    meanwhile you can

    compare marion barber or micheal turner to a darren sproles or a marshal faulk

    compare Wes Welker to Heinz Ward to Fitzjgrald to Boldin,

    compare Demarcus Ware to Shawne Merriman

    Romo to Pennington to Manning

    and on and on...


    Messi and Ibrahimovic are forwards but their styles are very different. Messi is more of a playmaker with a lot of skill and speed while Ibrahimovic is scorer that relies more on power and strength.

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    most played does not equal greatest.

    the reason futbol/soccer is so popular in most of the world is because of how easy and cheap it is for kids in poor countries to set up a game. all it takes is 4 objects to represent the goals and a round ball of some sort, and bam! the kids are playing soccer in the streets, growing up with soccer, and becoming fans of soccer.

    the other, superior sports like Football, Basketball, and maybe Baseball, require much more specific equipment that make them cost-prohibitive for much of the world.
    american football is better because the equipment costs more...

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    All we need is for Parker to leave in 2011 and we won't have to worry about this anymore.

    /thread.

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    It's easy to see how nationalism almost always creeps into these debates when a thread about Tony Parker playing for the French NT becomes a discussion about whether or not soccer actually involves strategy and/or skill.

    I still can't help thinking that if Parker had sprained his ankle in a pick up game in San Antonio that there'd be a lot less emotion and anger over it.

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    american football is better because the equipment costs more...
    I was explaining the popularity of soccer, not the greatness of Football there

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    You're all re s. The greatest sport known to man is basketball.

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    This is still a basketball forum, right?

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    Messi and Ibrahimovic are forwards but their styles are very different. Messi is more of a playmaker with a lot of skill and speed while Ibrahimovic is scorer that relies more on power and strength.


    that Ibrahimovic is UNBELEIVABLE!

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    that Ibrahimovic is UNBELEIVABLE!
    Messi is better

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    When you euro s are done with your soccer is better than football size compe ion BS and willing to discuss basketball let us know.

    Till then,

    Holt is 100% in the right on this one.

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    When you euro s are done with your soccer is better than football size compe ion BS and willing to discuss basketball let us know.

    Till then,

    Holt is 100% in the right on this one.
    You seem like a cool dude, wanna be my friend?
    Last edited by DAF86; 07-31-2009 at 04:46 PM.

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    Olympic gold medal >>> NBA ship

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    Olympic gold medal >>> NBA ship
    awesome, lets see France pay for his many houses with that "gold medal" then since its more important than the NBA.

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    If it were not for the specific players currently competing in the NBA that I am a fan of, I could easily move to Europe ( Slovenia especially), root for a National team there and not miss the NBA.

    On the whole, I enjoy the olympics/ international compe ion a great deal more than I relish the nba finals- exciting as those are when a team I like is in them.

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    Football is great sport, it's a simple game but very enjoyable to play and to watch.
    American Football is pathetic, it's 90% violence and 10% sport.

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    France is not going to win an Olympic gold medal anyway.

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    awesome, lets see France pay for his many houses with that "gold medal" then since its more important than the NBA.
    you never got it and never will.
    Manu's play in the olympics to get the gold will stay in argentinian memories (and in mine) way longer than his splendid performance in the 05 finals. Now call me a fake spurs fan all you want or a nationalist if that pleases you.

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    awesome, lets see France pay for his many houses with that "gold medal" then since its more important than the NBA.
    Olympic medal is more important to the fans. If a player doesn't care about it, he doesn't play for the NT, the end. But apparently most players do care.
    National pride is not something easy to explain, you feel it or you don't.

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    EricB doesn't like me.

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    EricB doesn't like me.
    That's TPark for you

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    It's easy to see how nationalism almost always creeps into these debates when a thread about Tony Parker playing for the French NT becomes a discussion about whether or not soccer actually involves strategy and/or skill.

    I still can't help thinking that if Parker had sprained his ankle in a pick up game in San Antonio that there'd be a lot less emotion and anger over it.
    When you euro s are done with your soccer is better than football size compe ion BS and willing to discuss basketball let us know.

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    dumb.

    #1 CP3 did play for his country and will probably play again.
    #2 Trade of Parker for CP3 only would happen in your imagination.
    it's only dumb that you responded, I know it's not going to happen or realistic which is why I said it and he is not playing this summer so the potential for him getting injured is not related to USA ball. I said that also in less words. You cats cry too much and fail to read for understanding. There was nothing serious in my post which is basically what I said also.

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    Paul is playing for team USA. Maybe not this year but in 2008 and certainly in 2010 for World Championship.
    they making a run for the 2009 championship but again it was ranting and all in fun...

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    Imagine retiring in France after a wonderful professional career and never been able to lead your NT anywhere
    Imagine all the Jersey's the Spurs sell in France but with a "Lakers" word instead
    Imagine the message sent to kids that the professional team goes beyond France and National Pride
    Imagine the French press getting in your ass all day for not having the balls to say no to your employer
    Imagine TP coming back from winning the Euro Cup ( ala Manu post 04 gold) leading us to another championship
    After you have accomplished EVERYTHING at the pro level the only thing that will secure (he already has great chances) his spot at the HOF is leading France to winning stuff.

    I support TP on this one
    Imagine a doctor stating that an injury isn't serious in hopes that the player will play for the NT to win the le.

    Imagine the player re-injuring the ankle and ending his career 10 years too early because national pride got in the way of common sense.

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