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    Although, I'm sure the lack of trust from the Spurs' end start from when Parker broke his finger and the NT said he was good to go ... even though he would have been out for months if he would have gotten hit on the broken finger again.
    Put the lack of confidence on what you want but it's sure that there are some serious trouble between both medical staff.
    French NT doctor said that Spurs' staff have suspected them to have modified MRI pictures send to them to minimize Parker's injury.
    At the end, all this trouble hurt everybody: Spurs, the NT and TP.

    But all in all, this drama seems to have worked out pretty well. Parker probably wasn't going to play against Italy anyways.
    That's a quite wild assumption. Parker playing or not against Italy would have depended on the end of the rehab.

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    Put the lack of confidence on what you want but it's sure that there are some serious trouble between both medical staff.
    French NT doctor said that Spurs' staff have suspected them to have modified MRI pictures send to them to minimize Parker's injury.
    At the end, all this trouble hurt everybody: Spurs, the NT and TP.
    Source ?


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    Today's l'equipe.

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    Tony Parker à suivi des soins pendant son vol pour San Antonio grâce à la présence de l'ostéopathe de l'Equipe de France, Fabrice Gautier qui l'accompagnait (Gautier / FFBB)

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    Today's l'equipe.
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    Parker le prisonnier


    Rappelé au Texas sur l’injonction de San Antonio, le meneur des Spurs a très peu de chances de retrouver les Bleus.


    LE BRAS DE FER s’annonce tendu, les yeux dans les yeux. Tony Parker est arrivé hier soir à San Antonio, regard noir, mâchoires serrées, colère toujours vive. Il rencontre le staff des Spurs aujourd’hui et va tenter de convaincre ses employeurs de revenir en France dès dimanche. Jeudi soir, à la mi-temps du match contre la Hongrie (70-69) à Paris-Coubertin, ses patrons lui ordonnaient de prendre le premier avion pour vérifier l’état de sa cheville droite touchée vendredi dernier à Strasbourg.

    Il a parlementé, mais le ton du propriétaire des quadruple champions de NBA, Peter Holt, le roi du « tracteur business », ne laissait aucune marge. Quelques minutes après, le meneur français, cloué sur le banc de la sélection pour cet ultime match de préparation, recevait sur son téléphone un billet d’avion pour le lendemain matin. Retour au pays sans la moindre discussion.

    Tout laisse même penser que les Spurs ne permettront pas à leur star de revenir auprès des Bleus, désormais en pleine tempête à cinq jours du match en Italie, qui déterminera tout ou partie de la qualification à l’Euro et, en filigrane, l’avenir international de la génération Parker.


    POURQUOI LES SPURS RAPPELLENT-ILS PARKER ?

    Tony Parker s’est blessé à la cheville droite vendredi dernier à Strasbourg. Le diagnostic établit une entorse « bénigne sans lésion ligamentaire ni arrachement osseux ». Le joueur passe les examens habituels et les staffs médicaux des Spurs et de l’équipe de France, selon le protocole établi depuis quelques mois avec les clubs des internationaux, échangent des comptes rendus et des images. Le rapatriement, comme en 2007 (voir par ailleurs), est évoqué pour la première fois lundi lorsque Parker est appelé par les Spurs.

    « J’ai ensuite eu leur médecin-chef au téléphone, il estimait qu’il y avait aussi un problème sur le tendon et me dit : je veux qu’il rentre (à San Antonio), car je suis responsable d’un joueur qui coûte 66 millions de dollars (sux six ans) », raconte le docteur Vincent Cavelier, médecin national en charge du haut niveau.

    Le médecin américain exige alors un examen supplémentaire via une IRM (imagerie par résonance magnétique) surpuissante dont la vocation n’est pas d’examiner les chevilles, mais le cerveau. « Ils ont vu une cicatrice sur le ligament latéral externe, mais qui date d’une ancienne blessure. Or, Tony ne se plaint pas de son tendon. En fait, ils nous suspectent d’avoir trafiqué les images pour minimiser la blessure. Alors, l’hôpital du Val-de-Grâce leur renvoie les images et le professeur Mouchet, un grand spécialiste qu’ils nous ont demandé de consulter, confirme jeudi midi que c’est bien une image cicatricielle (ancienne blessure inactive). On s’est pliés à tout ce qu’ils demandaient ; peut-être espéraient-ils prendre les médecins français en faute », suggère le docteur Cavelier pour expliquer l’at ude autoritaire des Spurs.

    Peut-être veulent-ils surtout garder au chaud un joueur majeur à l’aube d’une saison 2009-2010 pour laquelle les Spurs ont cassé leur tirelire alors que deux pointes du trio magique, Tim Duncan (33 ans) et Manu Ginobili (32 ans), ac ulent les pépins de santé. L’Argentin s’est blessé l’an dernier pendant le tournoi olympique, ce qui l’a privé du premier mois de la saison NBA.

    En le rappelant malgré un rétablissement en bonne voie – Parker a recommencé à courir et à tirer jeudi matin –, les Spurs le mettent très clairement au pas.


    QUELLES SONT LES CHANCES D’UN RETOUR RAPIDE ?

    Minimes. La considération des Spurs pour le staff médical de l’équipe de France et le contexte actuel dans la franchise texane n’engagent pas à l’optimisme. « Tony a employé le terme d’insulte à l’égard de la médecine française, et la discussion a été chaude entre Peter Holt (propriétaire des Spurs) et lui », glisse Patrick Beesley, le directeur de la sélection, qui a tenté une médiation en proposant aux Spurs de ne pas utiliser Parker pour le choc en Italie mercredi soir. En vain.

    « On doit céder à la pression alors qu’on a appliqué toutes leurs exigences. C’est blessant. Ils remettent clairement en question toutes les interprétations de notre staff médical », déplore-t-il. L’ostéopathe Fabrice Gautier, basé à Los Angeles, accompagne Parker à San Antonio et rendra compte des discussions d’aujourd’hui.

    Vincent Collet estimait hier après-midi « très compliqué » un retour à temps pour Italie-France. Parker n’a joué que douze minutes en match officiel depuis le 28 avril. « Tony nous a dit qu’il reviendrait dimanche mais… Et il faut aussi comprendre le contexte des Spurs, même si je le subis de plein fouet », commentait l’entraîneur des Bleus, qui ne tire pas un trait sur la présence de son capitaine et leader, mais ne se fait guère d’illusions non plus.

    S’il confirme le diagnostic français, le résultat des examens que repasse Parker dans l’environnement médical de San Antonio aujourd’hui ne suffira peut-être pas à infléchir la décision des Spurs de maintenir leur joueur dans le cocon texan. De là à l’interdire d’équipe de France ? Difficile à dire, mais la volonté affirmée de Parker de retrouver le maillot bleu dès que possible peut laisser un espoir. Les quadruple champions de NBA ne peuvent pas se permettre de laisser place à la moindre insatisfaction d’un joueur autour duquel ils ont prévu de reconstruire à la fin de l’ère Tim Duncan, soit dans trois ans.


    COMMENT REMPLACER PARKER ET GOMIS ?

    L’indisponibilité probable de Tony Parker pour au minimum le début des repêchages (5 août) à l’Euro (7-20 septembre en Pologne) est une catastrophe pour l’équipe de France, dont il est l’incontestable leader offensif. D’autant que sa doublure Joseph Gomis quitte également la sélection en raison d’une tendinite au tendon d’Achille. Un éventuel retour n’est pas à l’ordre du jour. À cinq jours d’Italie-France, Vincent Collet est donc confronté à une pénurie de meneurs, les seuls Yannick Bokolo et Nando De Colo ne pouvant assumer pleinement cette tâche.

    Deux meneurs spécifiques rompus aux systèmes de jeu de l’entraîneur, ont donc été appelés : l’expérimenté Aymeric Jeanneau (ASVEL), qui a travaillé toute la saison avec Collet, et l’espoir Antoine Diot, multimédaillé chez les jeunes, qui a passé une saison au Mans sous les ordres du coach des Bleus. « Dans l’urgence, il fallait réagir. Il y a très peu de temps pour recons uer le groupe. C’est pour cela que j’ai choisi deux joueurs qui connaissent mes aspirations de jeu. Et Aymeric avait aussi suppléé Tony (Parker) avant le Mondial 2006. Il m’a dit qu’il n’était pas en forme physique mais Antoine, lui, a été brillant à l’Euro espoirs (2e avec la France) et est en forme. » Jeanneau et Diot intègrent les entraînements aujourd’hui et devraient, sauf retour rapide de Parker, être alignés en Italie.

    Apparue peu performante collectivement jeudi lors du pe succès contre la Hongrie (70-69), l’équipe de France avance vers une quinzaine cruciale fragilisée par les coups de massue qui s’ac ulent, entre les départs, celui-là programmé, de Joakim Noah, et de Tony Parker, auxquels s’ajoutent les blessures de Joseph Gomis et Mamoutou Diarra (périarthrite à l’épaule droite). Ce dernier, qui quitte également la sélection, sera remplacé par un autre jeune, Edwin Jackson (19 ans), de la génération Batum-Diot.

    Quant à Joakim Noah, il semble qu’une ouverture soit possible puisque Gar Forman, le manager général des Chicago Bulls, a indiqué dans le quotidien « Daily Herald » que « c’est à Joakim de décider » de rejoindre ou non les Bleus ajoutant au sujet de son retour à Chicago : « Ce n’est pas nous qui avons pris la décision. »

    Troublante déclaration qui laisse la porte ouverte à un retour parmi les Bleus mais interroge sur la réalité des discussions entre les Bulls, qui étaient soi-disant décideurs, et l’équipe de France. Où l’on n’entend plus parler de Larry Brown, le super consultant.


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    Put the lack of confidence on what you want but it's sure that there are some serious trouble between both medical staff.
    French NT doctor said that Spurs' staff have suspected them to have modified MRI pictures send to them to minimize Parker's injury.
    At the end, all this trouble hurt everybody: Spurs, the NT and TP.
    Trying to have Parker play through a broken finger that could have had him miss months isn't something that is forgotten overnight. Especially since there has been more drama since that point.

    If the French NT would have told TP to go home after breaking his finger and not only relenting after Pop cussed out the whole NT hierarchy, this type of mistrust wouldn't have built up.

    But that's not saying the NT is 100% to blame. The Spurs are probably just as guilty due to not even wanting TP to play in the first place and making him jump through hoops to play.

    That's a quite wild assumption. Parker playing or not against Italy would have depended on the end of the rehab.
    He hasn't been able to start rehab yet. Plus, like you said, he wasn't even close to in shape either. I don't think he could rehab and get in shape in like three or four days.

    And @ it being a wild assumption even though the NT was talking about the possibility even before any of this Spurs stuff went down. In fact, it's probably clear to classify it as a safe assumption.

    I know you want to frame it like the big bad Spurs ruined TP's life dream by making up an injury and then dragging him kicking and screaming onto a plane to further add hardships ... but that's obviously not what happened.

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    Tony must not be aware of mouse's exploits...

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    Tony was upset...Buford explains why they wanted him to come back to the states and then comes out and thanks Tony publicly as he knows Tony was upset. Buford and the Spurs know how important this is to Tony....as Tony came back knowing how important he is to the Spurs. It's mutual respect.
    No. Spurs have started TP to come back in SA on Monday and it end up with Holt ordering Parker to come back. You can talk about "mutual respect" but it wasn't the case. Bad words have been exchanged and bad feelings have been created in this story, deal with that.

    Al this story has surely hurt the relationship between Parker and Spurs. Maybe not deeply but at least a little. Buford kissing TP's ass in the press release is for sure a try to start repairing what has been broken.

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    No. Spurs have started TP to come back in SA on Monday and it end up with Holt ordering Parker to come back. You can talk about "mutual respect" but it wasn't the case. Bad words have been exchanged and bad feelings have been created in this story, deal with that.

    Al this story has surely hurt the relationship between Parker and Spurs. Maybe not deeply but at least a little. Buford kissing TP's ass in the press release is for sure a try to start repairing what has been broken.
    Or maybe you have just been duped by the French press into thinking that it's all that. I seriously doubt that many bad words were exchanged and I seriously doubt that the Parker will have any bad feelings toward the Spurs. It's probably a non-issue at this point from Parker's point of view. Was he upset at the initial call? Sure. But he knows it's a business. He knows they are protecting him as a valuable asset. And he has way too much respect for Pop/RC/Holt for this to be grudge issue. And it's mutual.

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    I've never heard of Holt calling and ordering players around. If TP got the request initially by text message, I'm going to say it was RC. Pop doesn't text message and I don't think Holt does either.

    Has TP actually said Holt or has he just said "the Spurs" and that was assumed to be Holt?

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    yeah just a 22 hours trip + jet lag for nothing
    Actually, I'd be more interested to know about the effect of flying on a recently sprained ankle. Cabin pressure in a plane is only about 0.8 of an atmosphere - that's why your extremities swell up, and why some people wear flight stockings to prevent deep vein thrombosis. I'd venture that flying with a swollen ankle would exacerbate the swelling.

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    Trying to have Parker play through a broken finger that could have had him miss months isn't something that is forgotten overnight. Especially since there has been more drama since that point.
    You want to re-doo the "broken finger" story ?
    What you say is just plain wrong. Don't rewrite what has happened, timvppp.

    And @ it being a wild assumption even though the NT was talking about the possibility even before any of this Spurs stuff went down. In fact, it's probably clear to classify it as a safe assumption.
    And lol @ you claiming to know if Parker would have played against Italy. You aren't a doctor and you haven't seen Parker in his rehab.
    I take what the NT staff said above what you said.

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    Or maybe you have just been duped by the French press into thinking that it's all that. I seriously doubt that many bad words were exchanged and I seriously doubt that the Parker will have any bad feelings toward the Spurs. It's probably a non-issue at this point from Parker's point of view. Was he upset at the initial call? Sure. But he knows it's a business. He knows they are protecting him as a valuable asset. And he has way too much respect for Pop/RC/Holt for this to be grudge issue. And it's mutual.
    French press is just reporting what French NT GM is saying.
    So either the NT GM is a liar, either bad words have been exchanged and Parker was really upset.

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    I've never heard of Holt calling and ordering players around. If TP got the request initially by text message, I'm going to say it was RC. Pop doesn't text message and I don't think Holt does either.

    Has TP actually said Holt or has he just said "the Spurs" and that was assumed to be Holt?
    It's French NT GM who said it was Holt.

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    yeah just a 22 hours trip + jet lag for nothing
    I love how people act as if the Spurs don't have a lot more invested into Tony's future than a 22 hour plance trip (+ jet lag) that Tony might have to "suffer" through.

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    No. Spurs have started TP to come back in SA on Monday and it end up with Holt ordering Parker to come back. You can talk about "mutual respect" but it wasn't the case. Bad words have been exchanged and bad feelings have been created in this story, deal with that.

    Al this story has surely hurt the relationship between Parker and Spurs. Maybe not deeply but at least a little. Buford kissing TP's ass in the press release is for sure a try to start repairing what has been broken.
    Whatever you say......


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    TL should make the right decision by himself without any guidance or hint from the Spurs organization, despite the pressure from France. On behalf of the common interest TL shares with the Spurs team and even the French NT, Spurs organization made the request to draw TL back to SA where dude would get the best treatment he could possible receive.

    TL is an adult person that has the rights and ability to make his own choices. I deeply doubt TL is willing to work his pants off for his NT with a severe injury in his ankle, dude just has to move his butt around the court because of the high expectations, or sadly, invisible pressures forced by those french NT organizers.

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    Instead of crippling and disabling Longoria in this year, I think the Frenchmen have some other options to choose, like releasing him to San Antonio and staying away from him until his injury gets fully healed. No NBA team has ever forced its player to carry a bad injury onto the court while pretending to be totally OK, anyway the NT doesn't need to pay 10m every year to Tony Longoria. Longoria's injury may be healed in a week but some recovering training are always needed before dude gets fully fit for games, and the long-trip fatigue will add tons of risk to the possible relapse of his injury.

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    Al this story has surely hurt the relationship between Parker and Spurs. Maybe not deeply but at least a little. Buford kissing TP's ass in the press release is for sure a try to start repairing what has been broken.
    Let's get things straight here. Parker has been a part of the Spurs since he was 19 years old. He has spent the better part of his adult life around Pop, RC and Peter Holt. You actually want us to buy your argument that his relationship them is somehow damaged because of this? GTFO with that.

    Parker knows what happened to Manu last year. He also knows what the Spurs have done financially this summer to make this team a contender. I'm sure that though he was upset initially, they sat down like people who have know each other closely for...oh...EIGHT years and discussed these things.

    But you throw around bull like "RC is kissing TP's ass" and "Parker's relationship with the Spurs is damaged." You act like he is some sort of free agent that they signed last year and they are trying to stay within his good graces...and RC is some bumbling GM scared of losing his star. I stand by what I said...get rid of your blind nationalism and see things for how they really are.

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    I'm sick and tired of NT Gate. Parker is an employee of the Spurs, so I'm disappointed to hear of his belly-aching about coming back to be examined. that should be standard procedure. In fact, it should way more harsh..."You want to play for your NT? Fine, then sign this injury waver and you can play all the NT games you want. Just don't come to us for your 10M if you're injured."

    It was unbelievably magnanimous of RC to make that public statement. It was also the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen from the Spurs FO. It shows how much they value Parker, but don't think the FO won't remember that when his contract is up. I wouldn't forget that if I were the Spurs.

    I still can't believe this. We're geared up for a le this year like never before, yet we're putting up with this diva act from Parker. Freaking last thing we need right now.

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    Yeah, win-win... Except for the French NT who not only won't have its best player in arguably the most important game in 2 years, but also won't have him around to build team chemistry and at least watch practices.

    The French doctors were right when they said it was a minor injury, the Spurs are acting like they're the only ones who could handle the situation when rehab is easily doable in France.

    I love the Spurs but they're really annoying right now.
    Yeah, they're the ones paying TP to play DURING THE REGULAR SEASON AND PLAYOFFS. Right now TP is on vacation and may do what he pleases. Does your boss call you during summer vacation to check on you? Does he urge you to come to the office IMMEDIATELY?

    Actually, many professional players and others cannot do whatever they want on vacation. There are clauses built into their contracts that limit certain activities (snow skiing, motorcycling, etc...). So no, Parker can't do whatever he wants--nor can Tim, Manu or Jefferson for that matter.

    Moreover, many high level executives have had to cut their vacations short, having been summoned back to the office to deal with a crisis. Parker's crisis is a sprained ankle--mild, yes--but considering he is an intregral piece to a le run, a potential major crisis for the Spurs.

    I feel bad for Tony and the FNT that this has happened--blame Manu's injury last season for making the Spurs organization much more sensitive to a summer injury. I'm hoping that much of the supposed "negative" words were for show. Parker didn't come back willingly--thereby not upsetting the French fans.

    There is a definite conflict of interest for fans here. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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    Let's get things straight here. Parker has been a part of the Spurs since he was 19 years old. He has spent the better part of his adult life around Pop, RC and Peter Holt. You actually want us to buy your argument that his relationship them is somehow damaged because of this? GTFO with that.

    Parker knows what happened to Manu last year. He also knows what the Spurs have done financially this summer to make this team a contender. I'm sure that though he was upset initially, they sat down like people who have know each other closely for...oh...EIGHT years and discussed these things.

    But you throw around bull like "RC is kissing TP's ass" and "Parker's relationship with the Spurs is damaged." You act like he is some sort of free agent that they signed last year and they are trying to stay within his good graces...and RC is some bumbling GM scared of losing his star. I stand by what I said...get rid of your blind nationalism and see things for how they really are.
    Indeed.

    Bruno, someone once known as a reliable source of pertinent international info is now starting to sound like the French version of Peter Vescey.

    This whole 'story' is going to disappear faster than Matt Bonner in a playoff game. Four months from now, nobody hear will be talking about the French NT except Bruno who'll be rumaging through RC Buford's garbage looking for the next 'scoop'.

    My suggestion to Bruno; start up Spurstalk.fr and leave us NBA fans to discuss winning actual championships.

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    yeah just a 22 hours trip + jet lag for nothing
    Flying first class... not that tiring my friend... specially in long haul flights...

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    I'm sick and tired of NT Gate. Parker is an employee of the Spurs, so I'm disappointed to hear of his belly-aching about coming back to be examined. that should be standard procedure. In fact, it should way more harsh..."You want to play for your NT? Fine, then sign this injury waver and you can play all the NT games you want. Just don't come to us for your 10M if you're injured."

    It was unbelievably magnanimous of RC to make that public statement. It was also the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen from the Spurs FO. It shows how much they value Parker, but don't think the FO won't remember that when his contract is up. I wouldn't forget that if I were the Spurs.

    I still can't believe this. We're geared up for a le this year like never before, yet we're putting up with this diva act from Parker. Freaking last thing we need right now.
    Where did you see any bellyaching or diva acting from Parker? You are going off about something reported third hand that he was upset at the phone call.

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    hahahah what the is he wearing????
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