Spurs.com: Tony Parker Injury Update

[urunobili]

was it this game?

nice... Bellinelli and Bargnani will not have a nice welcome in Toronto this time around...

[Alain]

If my employee gets injured while on vacation, he keeps the job.
If he/she gets injured while playing for another organization in an irrelevant game while I am paying him/her, he gets fired immediately.

Ok, that's your point. But I've heard there are rules and agreements between FIBA and NBA. My question was: if Tony refused to fly back to San Antonio, would he possibly had to endure an official sanction?
In other words: who's got leverage on who? While it's not french NT or (of course) Tony's best interest to upset the Spurs or whatever NBA team, should they keep low profile indefinitely and finaly play with a roster of french league scrubs and juniors?

Millions or not, there are rules! If I understand well, it's up to the player to decide if he wants to play for his NT. It's a bit strange to see the same people going by laws and rules when it's their interest and then saying rules are unfair because Spurs pay Tony 12 millions.
How hard is it to admit that a few things have nothing to do with money? After all, NT compe ions are a soft subs ute to war (see: ancient greeks olympics, cold war, etc....) and I guess that Tony is apt and could be called back in case of... millions or not.

[Bruno]

There may have been a quarrel for a short moment, but I seriously doubt that one conversation between Holt and Parker created some sort of permanent rift. If you step back and consider all the cir stances and assume Parker is a rational, mature adult, then its pretty easy to come to the conclusion that they talked it out like adults and everything is now water under the bridge.

Both Spurs' and Parker's interest is to to keep a good relationship between them. I expect the situation to calm down and everybody coming with a "it was nothign serious" at ude.

Long term consequences will depend on FNT results. If FNT doesn't qualify and Parker thinks that Spurs calling him back was a reason why they didn't qualify, it will have long term consequences. In the other cases, this story won't be a big deal.

[Bruno]

Ok, that's your point. But I've heard there are rules and agreements between FIBA and NBA. My question was: if Tony refused to fly back to San Antonio, would he possibly had to endure an official sanction?
In other words: who's got leverage on who? While it's not french NT or (of course) Tony's best interest to upset the Spurs or whatever NBA team, should they keep low profile indefinitely and finaly play with a roster of french league scrubs and juniors?

Tony could have said that he stayed in France without bad consequences rules-wise.

Rules are that NBA teams can't forbid players to play for their NT. They aren't even allowed to say to one of their players that they don't want him to play for his NT. Spurs have sbeen warned one time by the NBA for not respecting these rules with Manu.

[Bruno]

http://www.rmc.fr/edito/sport/85505/...s-bleus-jeudi/

Parker will left SA Wednesday.

[Bambililos]

Parker has a mild injury and he's doing everything he's told rehab-wise, I don't see why he wouldn't be able to fly back on Wednesday.
The Spurs can send whoever they wish with him to reassure themselves, but Tony will be fine.

And I hope this whole thing won't be too bad for the NT. (I already know it's nothing serious for the Spurs either, otherwise I would be more concerned).

[ohmwrecker]

I think this thread is more serious than any rift between R.C. and Tony. Sounds like a small misunderstanding of intent on Tony's part and a slight (understandable) mistrust of the NT staff on R.C.'s part. At any rate, it's over. Let it go.

[Bruno]

He will leave when the team doctors say he is ready to leave.

Tony leaving SA Wednesday isn't a guess but an info coming from France NT GM.
Even if you have some inside source, i do think he is more in the know than you.

[bigfan]

I could really care less if the people of France, his team over there or even Tony is pissed. He's an adult and getting good bucks to play for the Spurs and they have invested in him personally. Im sure this is more ginned up by the papers than anything else regardless.

[Interrohater]

Tony could have said that he stayed in France without bad consequences rules-wise.

Rules are that NBA teams can't forbid players to play for their NT. They aren't even allowed to say to one of their players that they don't want him to play for his NT. Spurs have sbeen warned one time by the NBA for not respecting these rules with Manu.

I think this is probably the most valid point out of all of these posts. You guys have to understand that while we're all homers and want a championship to come back to SA, he's a homer too and wants a championship to go back to France. If they don't qual, there absolutely will be feelings of mistrust and blame in Tony's heart.

Another point that I think a lot of people are forgetting is that his wife is a hardcore homer too. She was born in Corpus Christi and has been a Spurs fan all her life. She has more influence on him than anybody in these forums and I guarantee you that she's helping him to understand why the Spurs are doing what they're doing. Hopefully she does a good enough job wherein they can all move past this.

[bonesinaz]

[QUOTE=

I love the Spurs but they're really annoying right now.
Yeah, they're the ones paying TP to play DURING THE REGULAR SEASON AND PLAYOFFS. Right now TP is on vacation and may do what he pleases. Does your boss call you during summer vacation to check on you? Does he urge you to come to the office IMMEDIATELY?[/QUOTE]

Just because TP is on vacation does not mean he can do as he pleases. If you have ever paid attention to the Spurs and their organization, you would know that what a player does off the NBA court matters as much as what he does on the court. Think back to AD, for example.

The second factor has been mentioned previously; that an NBA player's body and health are subject to team decisions and the team's best interest.

[Interrohater]

I could really care less if the people of France, his team over there or even Tony is pissed. He's an adult and getting good bucks to play for the Spurs and they have invested in him personally. Im sure this is more ginned up by the papers than anything else regardless.

Right, because professional basketball players are robots and u put a dollar in them, and they make a play. Like a basketball vending machine.

What a stupid thing to say. In every walk of life, in every situation, you have to account for human emotion. We talk a lot about playing the game "with heart", yet, here you are saying the heart doesn't matter. If, for some reason, Tony's heart is not in the game when he plays with the Spurs because of an incident, you will definitely see a drop in play, or productivity. Don't be so blind, emotion plays an incredible role. Why did Pat Tillman give up his NFL career for the insanely sorry pay of an Army Specialist?

[temujin]

was it this game?

Abolutely.

As I said, ready to play.

Bring on the next.

[temujin]

nice... Bellinelli and Bargnani will not have a nice welcome in Toronto this time around...

Italians owns the business in Toronto.

They'll do whatever they wish.
Witness the $50 millions they gave to a fluke like Bargnani.

[temujin]

Ok, that's your point. But I've heard there are rules and agreements between FIBA and NBA. My question was: if Tony refused to fly back to San Antonio, would he possibly had to endure an official sanction?
In other words: who's got leverage on who? While it's not french NT or (of course) Tony's best interest to upset the Spurs or whatever NBA team, should they keep low profile indefinitely and finaly play with a roster of french league scrubs and juniors?

Millions or not, there are rules! If I understand well, it's up to the player to decide if he wants to play for his NT. It's a bit strange to see the same people going by laws and rules when it's their interest and then saying rules are unfair because Spurs pay Tony 12 millions.
How hard is it to admit that a few things have nothing to do with money? After all, NT compe ions are a soft subs ute to war (see: ancient greeks olympics, cold war, etc....) and I guess that Tony is apt and could be called back in case of... millions or not.

A qualifying game for an Euro tournament is not war.
It's totally irrelevant.
France has ZERO possibilities to even make the semis in the Euro.

With or without Parker.

He knows that, they know that, Spurs know that, the whole world knows that.

[Man In Black]

The tension is only in the now. TP will focus on the next thing once the season starts. He isn't one to dwell. I wish Team FRA good luck against ITA. Once would hope that Les Bleus would man up and beat Italy.

I was checking out that team roster using Eurobasket.com
Boris Diaw, Rony Turiaf, Mickael Pietrus, Joakim Noah and other players who have both NT and NBA experience can win one game without TP. Let's hope they have the fire to do so.

[xapatan2]

Hi to everyone, everything Bruno wrote Is just plain truth and based on facts and reliable sources.
So, Tony Is really really pissed. And it is not a childish reaction : sure he and the french NT lost time but the way Holt 'ordered' his coming back to SA Is giving the impression to not be trusted and to be treated like a child.
I understand the spurs, i would have prefered they behaved exactly this way last year with Manu.
Sometimes trying, as an NT, to be honest and to give all the information is not paying back thé way it should.
As some said, if french NT qualifies for the european, this would be a dead story for everyone ...
If they don't with the Game of wednesday against Italy playing a role in it, well thé damages could be very very much deaper than many of you are thinking...
let's hope we qualify, for everyone !
Xap '

[timaios]

The tension is only in the now. TP will focus on the next thing once the season starts. He isn't one to dwell. I wish Team FRA good luck against ITA. Once would hope that Les Bleus would man up and beat Italy.

I was checking out that team roster using Eurobasket.com
Boris Diaw, Rony Turiaf, Mickael Pietrus, Joakim Noah and other players who have both NT and NBA experience can win one game without TP. Let's hope they have the fire to do so.

Mickael Pietrus & Joakim Noah are not with the French NT because of their clubs !

[timaios]

A qualifying game for an Euro tournament is not war.
It's totally irrelevant.
France has ZERO possibilities to even make the semis in the Euro.

With or without Parker.

He knows that, they know that, Spurs know that, the whole world knows that.

1st : you're wrong.
2nd : the 6 best teams of the EURO 2009 will be qualified for the 2010 World Championship.

[spursfan09]

Let me try to get one thing straight...

The Italy game Tony is going to miss because he had to fly back to San Antonio, is the same game he was going to miss anyway because of his ankle injury right?

Since he is injured he shouldn't be playing at all right? It will most likely get worse if he doesn't do the proper rehab?

Oh and PS,

If TP is really pissed off about this and he thinks that this ruined his relationship with the Spurs, fans, city etc, then it wasn't much of a relationship to begin with.

[xapatan2]

First, Tony could have played on wednesday, given a classic rehab process avoiding a transatlantic trip for NOTHING.
second, well, on his part he has done everything and gave all he had to the spurs nation... Point Is : Is he really having the respect in return ?
Whatever, That was a stupid tale to bring him back, even if understandable.
Just hope the french NT Is paying totally the stupidity of this take.
Xap

[Mel_13]

If this is true:

Tony could have said that he stayed in France without bad consequences rules-wise.

Rules are that NBA teams can't forbid players to play for their NT. They aren't even allowed to say to one of their players that they don't want him to play for his NT. Spurs have sbeen warned one time by the NBA for not respecting these rules with Manu.

Then this will never be a concern:

If FNT doesn't qualify and Parker thinks that Spurs calling him back was a reason why they didn't qualify, it will have long term consequences.

And this cannot be true:

Mickael Pietrus & Joakim Noah are not with the French NT because of their clubs !

If the teams cannot forbid participation, then the NBA players that are not playing are doing so by choice.

[spursfan09]

It doesn't matter anyway

He's probably going to further injure himself anyway, and people like my boyfriend who paid for season tickets are going to be the ones who suffer the consequences.

Spurs making TP coming back = a little taste of what if feels like to Spurs and thier fans, when he can't play because of his commitment to that other team, and we lose a chance at winning a championship.

[temujin]

1st : you're wrong.
2nd : the 6 best teams of the EURO 2009 will be qualified for the 2010 World Championship.

Great.

France is aiming at sixth place (with Parker).

Big deal.

To qualify for another tournement.

Where they will have an even lesser role.

Bigger deal.

[EricB]

Yes, lets our season so Parker can go play in a bull tournament in bangladesh (no offense to the bangladeshians)

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