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  1. #101
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    Who cares? I certainly don't. I see the Lakers being better only if Bynum can stay healthy for the entire season. Artest isn't a concern to the Blazers. B-Roy will light him up.

  2. #102
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    Artest isn't a concern to the Blazers. B-Roy will light him up.
    True, but, what will you do the other 80 games when the Lakers ain't in Portland and you (both fans & players alike) have to get off yer lazy asses?

  3. #103
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    True, but, what will you do the other 80 games when the Lakers ain't in Portland and you (both fans & players alike) have to get off yer lazy asses?
    Dude, we won 54 games last year! We should improve by 10 games with the addition of Miller, the progression of Oden, and the return of Martell Webster. You guys are in trouble. Seriously.

  4. #104
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    Dude, we won 54 games last year! We should improve by 10 games with the addition of Miller, the progression of Oden, and the return of Martell Webster. You guys are in trouble. Seriously.
    Correction: 53. That blowout rape-fest y'all handed the Nugz in their final game was a gimme. At least that's what I like to think.

  5. #105
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    You guys are no longer a surprise team. Thirty of those wins were on teams that slept on you. You'll place around sixth this year. Be happy with that, cause you all made no improvements at all. Miller will find himself on the bench if he doesn't learn to hit that mid-rage. We're going to sag off him for sure.
    Over who? That scrub Blake?

  6. #106
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    You guys are no longer a surprise team. Thirty of those wins were on teams that slept on you. You'll place around sixth this year. Be happy with that, cause you all made no improvements at all. Miller will find himself on the bench if he doesn't learn to hit that mid-rage. We're going to sag off him for sure.


    Miller hits the mid-range jumper just find. He just can't hit the 3, but we have other shooters that can do that. Miller will push the tempo, drive, and drop dimes to our bigs.

  7. #107
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    You guys are no longer a surprise team. Thirty of those wins were on teams that slept on you. You'll place around sixth this year. Be happy with that, cause you all made no improvements at all. Miller will find himself on the bench if he doesn't learn to hit that mid-rage. We're going to sag off him for sure.
    You really are a dip considering they weren't really a suprise team this year. During the '07-'08 season they sneaked up on the league and won something like 16-20 in a row at one point of time. Heading into last year everybody knew they were going to fairly good and thus were able to prepare for them a lot better and they still won 54 games. They will be a thorn for the Lakers if they meet them in the playoffs much like the Mavs have always been for the spurs. Pray the Lakers don't end up playing them in the playoffs.

  8. #108
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    Dude, we won 54 games last year! We should improve by 10 games with the addition of Miller, the progression of Oden, and the return of Martell Webster. You guys are in trouble. Seriously.
    But, you can't be taken seriously. Frankly, you're part of the Western Conference Kit & Kaboodle. There is the Lakers & the Spurs. And then the Kit & Kaboodle.

    But, knock yerself out. You won't intrude.

    Let us proceed...

  9. #109
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    But, you can't be taken seriously. Frankly, you're part of the Western Conference Kit & Kaboodle. There is the Lakers & the Spurs. And then the Kit & Kaboodle.

    But, knock yerself out. You won't intrude.

    Let us proceed...
    Dream on hosehead.

  10. #110
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    Honestly tell me the 1999-2001 Chicago Bulls ran a structured offense and I'd happily be willing admit I was wrong.
    Face the fact that you are wrong, you look like a fool every time you try and change the parameters of the argument to fit your POV. You said Ron Artest has never played in a structured offense like the triangle, and you were dead wrong. He played in the triangle offense in his early Chicago days. It doesn't matter if those teams sucked , they still ran the triangle and thus Artest should be somewhat familiar with how it works when he comes to training camp here in LA.

  11. #111
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    Face the fact that you are wrong, you look like a fool every time you try and change the parameters of the argument to fit your POV. You said Ron Artest has never played in a structured offense like the triangle, and you were dead wrong. He played in the triangle offense in his early Chicago days. It doesn't matter if those teams sucked , they still ran the triangle and thus Artest should be somewhat familiar with how it works when he comes to training camp here in LA.
    It doesn't matter if he re-learns the triangle in a day, he's probably going to end up being a distraction one way or another next year. Kobe won't accept someone else getting all the attention so he'll probably throw him under the bus before the All-Star break. Face it Ariza was a better fit for the Lakers especially long term. Right now most Laker fans are just happy Artest won't be all up in Kobe's grill next year in the playoffs (just probably in practice).

  12. #112
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    It doesn't matter if he re-learns the triangle in a day, he's probably going to end up being a distraction one way or another next year. Kobe won't accept someone else getting all the attention so he'll probably throw him under the bus before the All-Star break. Face it Ariza was a better fit for the Lakers especially long term. Right now most Laker fans are just happy Artest won't be all up in Kobe's grill next year in the playoffs (just probably in practice).
    Considering the fact that most Laker fans wanted LO traded for Artest a few summers ago I'm going to have to disagree.

    The reality is legions of fans are desperately trying to convince themselves that Artest is going to be a poor fit for the Lakers. The reality is he is the exact kind of player they have been missing ever since Rick Fox and Robert Horry left.

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    Considering the fact that most Laker fans wanted LO traded for Artest a few summers ago I'm going to have to disagree.

    The reality is legions of fans are desperately trying to convince themselves that Artest is going to be a poor fit for the Lakers. The reality is he is the exact kind of player they have been missing ever since Rick Fox and Robert Horry left.
    Well I used to want Sjax back a few years ago myself.. but not anymore!

    What the do Rick Fox and Horry have in common w/Artest?!

  14. #114
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    The reality is legions of fans are desperately trying to convince themselves that Artest is going to be a poor fit for the Lakers. The reality is he is the exact kind of player they have been missing ever since Rick Fox and Robert Horry left.
    The good Doctor=the voice of reason & moderation in Championship times. He's to this Board & to Laker fandom what "Jarrod Barkley" was to the "Big Valley." He's our finest Lakers fellow:

    1. DrHouse
    2. Luva

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    The good Doctor=the voice of reason & moderation in Championship times. He's to this Board & to Laker fandom what "Jarrod Barkley" was to the "Big Valley." He's our finest Lakers fellow:

    1. DrHouse
    2. Luva
    sorry don't have my senseless blabber decoder... can you lay off the dope for awhile.. it's ing you up big time!

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    And I'll take the "Heath Barkley" part, bas son, spawned from the very testi's of "Tom Barkley" who is played by Dr. Buss. Jarrod & Nick/Dr. & Luva are denying me my rightful portion of the Barkley/Buss trust fund. Ipso facto, "Audra Barkley", played by ingenue Kori is fair game for her non brother Heath/Me and I'll serve as her chamber pot.

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    He might have triangle experience but the Bulls wanted him gone for a reason. A bad team does not offer a young athletic player like Artest for nothing unless there is a major problem.
    They let him walk for the same reason the Rockets only wanted to give him a one year MLE contract. He is talented, but he is to stubborn (or dumb) to conform to anyones system. He is always going to do his own thing, and that may end up being a problem in LA. I could be wrong, but his entire career says I'm not.

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    They let him walk for the same reason the Rockets only wanted to give him a one year MLE contract. He is talented, but he is to stubborn (or dumb) to conform to anyones system. He is always going to do his own thing, and that may end up being a problem in LA. I could be wrong, but his entire career says I'm not.
    Exactly.. but all these Laker fans think "he can change".. just like a hopeless woman!

  19. #119
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    They let him walk for the same reason the Rockets only wanted to give him a one year MLE contract. He is talented, but he is to stubborn (or dumb) to conform to anyones system. He is always going to do his own thing, and that may end up being a problem in LA. I could be wrong, but his entire career says I'm not.
    We had no other choice:

    1. Odom had a stellar '09 Playoffs.

    2. Odom recruited Artest to the Lakers.

    3. Buss attained wood.

    4. Buss dropped Ariza just a smidgeon East of Bakersfield.

    5. Buss drove back alone to LA in the car pool lane with Ariza's agent acting as car pool lane dummy.

    6. Buss made Odom say "uncle."

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    The good Doctor=the voice of reason & moderation in Championship times. He's to this Board & to Laker fandom what "Jarrod Barkley" was to the "Big Valley." He's our finest Lakers fellow:

    1. DrHouse
    2. Luva
    Cul, gettin his ass smoocher on...


  21. #121
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    Cul, gettin his ass smoocher on...

    LMAO! Welcome back, Dunc!

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    LMAO! Welcome back, Dunc!
    Only until Tuesday, then I'm off the grid for a few days.
    I'll be soakin up some sun at the beach with the family next week.

    Enjoy your hiatus from me ...

  23. #123
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    We had no other choice:

    1. Odom had a stellar '09 Playoffs.

    2. Odom recruited Artest to the Lakers.

    3. Buss attained wood.

    4. Buss dropped Ariza just a smidgeon East of Bakersfield.

    5. Buss drove back alone to LA in the car pool lane with Ariza's agent acting as car pool lane dummy.

    6. Buss made Odom say "uncle."
    Don't take what I'm saying the wrong way. Artest is an upgrade to Ariza, but it may not show because of his personality. Nobody is going to change who he is not Lamar, not Kobe, not Phil. I felt the same way most Laker fans do this time last season. I told myself he just needs to get on a winning team and he will sacrifice his game to win. WRONG!!! If you have the time, go check my posts starting from about January. This is around the time I started calling him Dinoboy.

    The name was given because he had a bad habit of ignoring the offense to showcase Ron Ron for about six or seven plays in a row. This would all to often cause us to lose games we should have easily won. When he is in this mode if he touches the ball it stops, and he will be the one taking the shot. I have seen Yao have his man sealed four feet from the basket, and begging for the ball, and not get the pass because Ron is in the "zone". The Lakers should have signed him to a much shorter contract, and I have a feeling they will be missing Ariza sooner rather than later.

  24. #124
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    Exactly.. but all these Laker fans think "he can change".. just like a hopeless woman!
    The only reason some of us think that is cause he's on a team with the player he respects the most in Kobe, one of the coaches he respects the most is PJ and he has a friend he's known since he was 12 in Lamar Odom not to mention the fact he's on a team that has a chance to win a ring and he knows this is his last chance to win a ring. Wether he'll change or not, nobody really knows but looking at the situation there is a lot of hope for it. Either way it was let Ariza walk and make Luke Walton your starting SF, with Morrison his back up or sign Ron Artest. I'm much happier with the second option even with the possible risks.

  25. #125
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    Considering the fact that most Laker fans wanted LO traded for Artest a few summers ago I'm going to have to disagree.

    The reality is legions of fans are desperately trying to convince themselves that Artest is going to be a poor fit for the Lakers. The reality is he is the exact kind of player they have been missing ever since Rick Fox and Robert Horry left.
    Yet the Lakers are still soft and will be owned by Boston again...

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