Thuglife: The GOP's Only Remaining Option

[Nbadan]

Who are those disruptors shouting at health-care townhall meetings anyway?

[Wild Cobra]

Funny. I get allot of things E-Mailed to me since going to a Tea Party and giving my email address to them. Not that. The closest thing I have seen was on the Rodger Hedge program. That's where I got the extracts of what's on HB3200. He posted it to arm listeners with questions to ask their congressmen at town halls, to be able to quote page and line of the bill. Most these people don't even know what they are voting on.

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!

Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise

Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access 2 individs finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued!

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to you banks accountsts for electronic funds transfer

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions & community orgs (ACORN).

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange to bring private HC plans under Govt control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private health care plans in the Exchange

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare!

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic appropropriate services. Example - Translationfor illegal aliens

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Benefit Levels for Plans. #AARP members - your Health care WILL be rationed

PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice

pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monopoly

pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what you can make.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST automatiocally enroll employees into pubic option plan. NO CHOICE

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for health care for part time employees AND their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll of 400k & above who does not provide public option. pays 8% tax on all payroll

pg 150 Lines 9-13 Business payroll between 251k & 400k who doesn't provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable health care according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of inc
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Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NON-RESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay for their health care)

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of health care Administration (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans financial/personal records

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same

PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr's time, professional judgment, etc. Literally value of humans.

PG 265 Sec 1131 Govt mandates & controls productivity for private health care industries

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs

PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals for what Govt deems preventable readmissions.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission- Govt will penalize you.

Pg 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investmen t. Govt tells Drs. what/how much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand

pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates establishment of outcome based measures. Health care the way they want. Rationing

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv. Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of special needs people!

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory Committee. Can you say health care by phone?

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has a say in how your life ends

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. o, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment to a community-based org. Like ACORN?

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt into your marriage

Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services

[boutons_deux]

WC relaying the lies he receives from right-wing, hating terrorists in the employ of the health-profit industry.

[Wild Cobra]

WC relaying the lies he receives from right-wing, hating terrorists in the employ of the health-profit industry.

Really? How would you know that without pulling it out your ass? Evidence? Have you looked up the material I listed?

[boutons_deux]

the reform bill(s) aren't done, yet, and the WH will have their say.

Oh dear researcher, please put a Dem/Repug identifier on each of your line items.

any right winger whining about red-herring Acorn exposes his lack of seriousness and authenticity.

[DarrinS]

Nbadan gives us a great example of why MSNBC is always last in ratings.

[hope4dopes]

Has anyone told this chick that women can be smart too, they don't have to ape men in order to appear intelligent.....Well the media is totally become a tool of the state...... I like her calling citizens enraged by a heavy handed and oppresive goverment "unruly consituents" as though they are bad children who don't know their place in the world.This was the same bull that was shoveled when the tea parties started up ..it was all organized by fox and rush limbaugh, "journalists" were not reporting the news they were actually attacking protesters, and villefiying them while on air. They tried to sell the idea that the tea parties were not expressions of the people, but that dog just didn't hunt, I doubt this one will either.I guess the administration has now found another group to put on it's right wing extremist watch list.If were not carefull the only ones not on the list will be ACORN and the rev.Wright.I think we're going to need a watch list czar.

[TheProfessor]

Nbadan gives us a great example of why MSNBC is always last in ratings.

So ratings = validity? This sounds like a Suns fan's argument...

[TheProfessor]

Nothing wrong with people exercising their First Amendment rights, but I think people are (again) being intellectually dishonest about where these individuals are coming from and who's organizing them, similar to much of the Tea Party stuff. Let's just call a spade a spade.

[DarrinS]

Nothing wrong with people exercising their First Amendment rights, but I think people are (again) being intellectually dishonest about where these individuals are coming from and who's organizing them, similar to much of the Tea Party stuff. Let's just call a spade a spade.

Why is everyone assuming these people are all conservatives? One of these was in Austin, which is a liberal Mecca.


MSNBC has devoted a LOT of time to "birthers" -- and now THIS "vast" right-wing conspiracy.


I've never even heard of the groups that Maddow mentioned.


There's a reason that congress is trying to rush Obamacare. They're afraid people will have time to become informed.

[ChumpDumper]

Why is everyone assuming these people are all conservatives? One of these was in Austin, which is a liberal Mecca.

Yeah, there are no conservatives in Austin. Not one.

MSNBC has devoted a LOT of time to "birthers" -- and now THIS "vast" right-wing conspiracy.


I've never even heard of the groups that Maddow mentioned.

You've heard of every group ever.

There's a reason that congress is trying to rush Obamacare. They're afraid people will have time to become informed.

They're in such a rush, they went on vacation for a month.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Nothing wrong with people exercising their First Amendment rights, but I think people are (again) being intellectually dishonest about where these individuals are coming from and who's organizing them, similar to much of the Tea Party stuff. Let's just call a spade a spade.

Bingo..zero intellectual honesty.

[DarrinS]

Meaningless drivel.

[ChumpDumper]

Ignorant whining.

[101A]

Why is everyone assuming these people are all conservatives?

Almost are probably are conservative.

So?

More people wear the conservative label than the liberal or progressive label in this country.

[TheProfessor]

Why is everyone assuming these people are all conservatives? One of these was in Austin, which is a liberal Mecca.


MSNBC has devoted a LOT of time to "birthers" -- and now THIS "vast" right-wing conspiracy.


I've never even heard of the groups that Maddow mentioned.


There's a reason that congress is trying to rush Obamacare. They're afraid people will have time to become informed.

You don't think there are conservatives in Austin? As someone who has actually lived there, I can tell you that's silly. Plenty of Ron Paul fans out there.

And I wouldn't call people standing there shouting things that have been spoon-fed to them terribly "informed." They want to make this seem like it's some organic uprising, just like the Tea Parties, and that simply isn't the case. And that's fine, but just stop pretending.

[ChumpDumper]

DarrinS is surprised to find out there are conservatives in Austin.

He was also surprised Obama turned out to be a liberal.

[101A]

Nothing wrong with people exercising their First Amendment rights, but I think people are (again) being intellectually dishonest about where these individuals are coming from and who's organizing them, similar to much of the Tea Party stuff. Let's just call a spade a spade.

I didn't attend any tea parties myself; but I know my Mom (64 year old widow) went to the one in San Antonio with ~20 friends.

Who do you propose they are, exactly? Who organized them?

Please enlighten me. Wouldn't want to be intellectually dishonest.

[DarrinS]

They want to make this seem like it's some organic uprising, just like the Tea Parties, and that simply isn't the case. And that's fine, but just stop pretending.

If Rachel Maddow says so, that's good enough for me.


But why didn't I get the memo?

[DarrinS]

And when did Chumpy start buying into Nbadan-style conspiracy theories?

[TheProfessor]

If Rachel Maddow says so, that's good enough for me.


But why didn't I get the memo?

So...your only evidence against it is that you didn't get an email?

[hope4dopes]

You don't think there are conservatives in Austin? As someone who has actually lived there, I can tell you that's silly. Plenty of Ron Paul fans out there.

And I wouldn't call people standing there shouting things that have been spoon-fed to them terribly "informed." They want to make this seem like it's some organic uprising, just like the Tea Parties, and that simply isn't the case. And that's fine, but just stop pretending.

Yeah tell a big enough lie often enough and loud enough and it becomes the truth.I actually recieved my orders to speak out against this goverment from my zionist master not fox or rush limbaugh.

[TheProfessor]

Yeah tell a big enough lie often enough and loud enough and it becomes the truth.I actually recieved my orders to speak out against this goverment from my zionist master not fox or rush limbaugh.

No, the big lie is that this is grass-roots. It's simply not. And I don't think that's conspiratorial at all, we've seen it before. You want to ridicule me because you have no argument against it. So either bring something to the table or sit down.

[ChumpDumper]

And when did Chumpy start buying into Nbadan-style conspiracy theories?

Your political ignorance is no conspiracy.

[TheProfessor]

And when did Chumpy start buying into Nbadan-style conspiracy theories?

When did you start denying what was right in front of your face? I really don't think it's even that bad, these companies have financial stakes in the matter and are organizing people. As long as they stay within the boundaries of allowed political speech, whatever.