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What an idiot. Maybe he can fight Gina. probably his only compe ion over there. Oh and cyborg.........
don't forget the inevitable re-match with cro cop
What an idiot. Maybe he can fight Gina. probably his only compe ion over there. Oh and cyborg.........
Bummer, but not shocking...
I'm interested in Overeem, Rogers, and Werdum...and Barnett in Japan (I'm sure). I'm pissed that we don't get to see Fedor expose Lesnar, but the guys he'll be fighting are in the same group with most of the other guys the UFC has to offer (right now at least). The UFC has some nice up and coming fighters, but it's not like the stash of guys are much better than what SF can throw at him.
Lesnar - would love to see it due to the hype factor, but there is still a lot we don't know about Lesnar
Couture - give me a break...not at this point in his career
Mir - severely over-rated after beating a depleted Nog...Lesnar proved that
Carwin - love Carwin, but he's got some big holes in his game (Gonzaga almost exposed them). He could matchup well with Lesnar though based on having similar strengths and weaknesses.
Cain - great chin and wrestling, but not much else at this point. Kongo torched him standing.
Gonzaga - no heart
Dos Santos - we'll see
Nog - already beat him, no interest
CC - already beat him, no interest (Dos Santos is going to end this UFC run I'm afraid)
I'm sure Fedor will end up in the UFC at some point, if he doesn't retire first. For now, there are still some quality fights out there for him. If he ends up headlining on CBS, it'll be good for his career as far as the masses go anyway.
To say that Fedor is "scared" of Lesnar is insane. To think he's scared of anybody is just crazy. There are too many factors here to wrap it all up like that.
Fedor is a pussy? Really??Come on now. For any keyboard warrior to talk about him like that is weak.
Dana proved exactly why they didn't want to work with him. He's been talking about Fedor for years, so the level of respect going in had to be low. The UFC just didn't quite give up enough for Fedor (and his team) to make that leap...
That's B.S., if he didn't want to deal with UFC at all, he wouldn't have entered negotiations with them again. Co-promoting with SF and UFC are two different things, and it's ing crazy to think they could even try to bargain that with them. He's nuts for having a stupid ass manager and even dumber for not hiring a new one.
If Fedor isn't scared of the compe ion, I don't know what to say. At this point, Fedor is a joke. Dana proved that his first assessment was right on -- Crazy Russians.
I'm disappointed Lesnar didn't get to expose Fedor. I guess fighting rejects in Werdum and Overeem are high points for the nuthuggers, or the ultra talented Brett Rogers.
someone who doesn't want to fight top compe ion is a pussy
maybe strikeforce can sign hong man choi or matt lindland or some other can to fight fedor to defend his wamma belt
NO! Are you saying that Strikeforce doesn't have any top10 HWs?!! Because that's what's all about; fighting good compe ion. He can fight brock down the road you never know. Plus now he can fight Barnett in Japan, steroids or not, Josh is much better than Brock right now.... key word right now, don't jump on me about that. So I don't see how fedor is avoiding top compe ion?!
I 'll give you that, this time Dana is wrong big time. Go and read his first interview as president of the UFC, all he talked was how he wanted to co-promote with other orgs, and how that's the only way MMA will grow and become the best sport in the world. True, when he is right, he is right!
Co-promotion is the way to go.
I didnt jump on you, I asked you a question which you answered and I dont agree with, but nobody ever agrees on forums so thats just part of it.
How is Fedor irrelevant? He can still fight Barnett in Japan, and Overeem and Brett Rogers, and even Ivanov; if that Bulgarian sambo fighter finds a way to beat Aleks --very unlikely to happen, I know but this MMA the impossible happens very often.
Tell me; who deserves to fight Fedor more than Barnett?
ok, but tell me this; Are there any top10 HWs in strikeforce? If yes, how many?
It is frickin simple
UFC would give Fedor the toughest test there was, and he said no. he would earn more money but he said no.
Fedor lives in a past where still UFC have weak HW division and Americans are Americans. In Strikeforce really Leonard come on.
And I woul like to see Fedor expose a 50 pound heavier Brock with wrestling skills in a cage.
Really he had some problems holding of Hunto on the ground and it was in the ring.
Well, obviously Fedor...but after that....Maybe Overeem, but thats it IMO.
you don't think mousasi could fight fedor? i think he is fedor's only compe ion in strikeforce even though he is small for him.
Are you kidding??
Overeem? Yeah, look who he has beaten in the past 3 years: Gary Goodrich, Mark Hunt, Lee Tae-Hyun, and Paul Buentello.
Werdum? An unknown (at the time) Dos Santos fighting in the UFC uppercutted Werdum's chin into his forehead.
Brett Rogers? - give me a break.
If you think these three will provide the level of compe ion in Strikeforce that the nine fighters you listed in the UFC would, you're crazy. You know this, and Fedor sure as knows this.
People thought Tim's size would "expose" Fedor...and Arlovski's crisp boxing...now it's Lesnar's size/wrestling until that fight happens. It'll always be somebody until he finally loses someday...that's just the way it is.
Dana has also proven that he's a loud-mouth crybaby that rips on you one minute, then praises you (and throws a boat load of money at you), then goes back to ripping on you. I don't blame anybody for not wanting to work for him.
4, although 3 of them are 8-10....and Werdum at 14. So 5/14...UFC has 7/14, but they're more weighted towards the top of the top 10 instead of the bottom.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/rankings/.../detail/730361
BE combines all the rankings of the top MMA sites...the best overall rankings out there IMO. Rankings are what they are...if you're going to talk "top 10" this and that, you have to pick a ranking system to use...
Mousasi isn't really smaller than Fedor...a little taller and a little lighter. He trained with him for Affliction and said he felt bigger than Fedor. Fedor just isn't that big...
Good find...but that has Arlovski (is he still under contract with Strikeforce?) who Fedor has already demolished and fails at most things, and Brett Rogers who I like but feel Shane Carwin would beat him right now.
Eh wasnt really thinking about Mousasi. Hes one of my favorite fighters and Id like to see him in the UFC at 205...or anywhere really. Honestly I think he'd give Fedor a better run than Rogers.
I didn't say they would provide the same level as the 9 guys I listed. I said they're in the same league, especially since we don't know that much about some of the up and coming guys in the UFC that I listed. Just because Cain is getting hyped by everybody and Rogers isn't doesn't mean Rogers isn't in his same class at this point. This could be completely different a year from now one this class of young/new guys gets some more fights. Have to wait and see.Are you kidding??
Overeem? Yeah, look who he has beaten in the past 3 years: Gary Goodrich, Mark Hunt, Lee Tae-Hyun, and Paul Buentello.
Werdum? An unknown (at the time) Dos Santos fighting in the UFC uppercutted Werdum's chin into his forehead.
Brett Rogers? - give me a break.
If you think these three will provide the level of compe ion in Strikeforce that the nine fighters you listed in the UFC would, you're crazy. You know this, and Fedor sure as knows this.
Overeem appears to have re-invented himself since he quit cutting insane amounts of weight to get to 205 (hence, his severe gassing issues at that weight). If you don't think he's a legit threat, then there is nothing I can say to change your mind. You're dismissing him like Dana did calling them "nobodies"...but Sylvia and Arlovski are "cans" so it would make sense I suppose.
Werdum losing to an unknown doesn't mean he sucks. Anybody can lose like he lost in that fight. happens. He's still a solid HW and not an easy fight for anybody.
How do you know Brett Rogers isn't any good? We know about as much about him as Dos Santos, Carwin, or Cain at this point...
lol.. i love the changing arguments.
Fedor can go challenge the "best" in SF.
..and why does someone making an argument about a ranking system pull out an arbitrary number of "Top XX" to make a point? Either use the list and count the fighters or not.
The list has 24 fighters: UFC has 13 of them. SF has 6. That includes Mousasi, who shouldn't even be ranked on that list until he beats someone on that list. So, I'd say 5.
What argument changed? Who said he could fight the best in SF??
Because nobody cares about Fedor fighting anybody outside the top 15 do they?? Who cares what the UFC has from 15-25. We're talking about top guys...
From Jake Rossen...
Of significantly less consequence is the report that Fedor Emelianenko has signed a three-fight deal with Strikeforce that’s likely to begin in the fall. The common reaction from both fans and UFC honchos has been the idea that Emelianenko simply isn’t interested in testing himself against top compe ion.
For the sake of argument: while the UFC holds a majority share of quality heavyweights, the idea that Emelianenko’s legacy will be tainted by never making eye contact with them is a stretch.
Consider:
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira: A non-en y where Emelianenko is concerned. He loses a fourth fight only if he fractures both his hands against Nogueira’s skull.
Randy Couture: Legendary, but well into middle age.
Frank Mir: Smashed to pieces by Brock Lesnar, and traditionally weakest where Emelianenko is strongest: dropping nuclear bombs on grounded opponents.
Ben Rothwell, Junior dos Santos, Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic, Cheick Kongo: I could think of better ways to spend a Saturday.
Putting aside inter-divisional fights with Anderson Silva or Lyoto Machida -- which would be lots of fun for spectators -- the UFC really has three upper-tier heavyweights with skills that could potentially give Emelianenko a very hard time: Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez. Three.
Strikeforce can match the ante with Alistair Overeem, Brett Rogers and some kind of wild card entrant: Bobby Lashley, Blagoi Ivanov, perhaps even Josh Barnett.
The proposition that Strikeforce employs air conditioning repairmen and the UFC enlists only Olympic athletes is pushing the envelope; I’d almost sooner see Emelianenko go on a free-agent tear for a year or two before settling in with the UFC, considering that their asphyxiating contracts invite retirement at their conclusions.
Emelianenko will be just fine. So will his career. And so will his fans
Sweet. More Fedor love.
Stupid ass article. Because that's all that UFC has for fighters, and it's not possible that they will get Lashley or Ivanov, etc.
and I could think of a better way to spend a saturday than watch him fight Overeem, or Rogers. They are just as irrelevant as Rothwell, dos Santos or Kongo.
Fedor nuthugger will always be nuthuggers and swing on them and sing his praises and spin the SF signing as something positive. Awesome!
Cyborg vs Fedor FTW!!!
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