WTF is Bill Clinton doing in NK?

[Spursmania]

I am really happy for those 2 prisoners. I'm sure they and their families and loved ones are relieved. Props to BC for helping get 2 innocent people out of that nightmare.

[Crookshanks]

I am really happy for those 2 prisoners. I'm sure they and their families and loved ones are relieved. Props to BC for helping get 2 innocent people out of that nightmare.

It's great they were freed - but I don't think they were totally innocent. I don't think they meant any harm or were spying, but they didn't just "wander" into NK - they knew they were crossing the border, but they hoped they wouldn't get caught.

Even so - their "crime" didn't deserve a sentence of 10 years of hard labor. And I still think it's funny that Bill accomplished what Hillary couldn't - and don't think for a minute that Hillary isn't pissed about it.

[ChumpDumper]

It's great they were freed - but I don't think they were totally innocent. I don't think they meant any harm or were spying, but they didn't just "wander" into NK - they knew they were crossing the border, but they hoped they wouldn't get caught.

Even so - their "crime" didn't deserve a sentence of 10 years of hard labor. And I still think it's funny that Bill accomplished what Hillary couldn't - and don't think for a minute that Hillary isn't pissed about it.

So blame the victims and make up a conflict that doesn't exist.

Crookshanks is pretty much acting like Kim Jong-Il.

[Crookshanks]

So blame the victims and make up a conflict that doesn't exist.

Lee, a South Korean-born U.S. citizen, is the mother of a 4-year-old. Ling, a California native, is the younger sister of Lisa Ling, a correspondent for CNN as well as "The Oprah Winfrey Show" and "National Geographic Explorer."

They were arrested as they reported about the trafficking of women. It's unclear if they strayed into the North or were grabbed by aggressive border guards who crossed into China but recent statements suggested they admitted to deliberately crossing into the country.

I took this exerpt from the AP article posted on Yahoo News. So yes, the women deserve some of the blame. And you're pretty naive if you think that Hillary isn't at least a little pissed that Bill gets the credit when she got the criticism.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, keep blaming the victim, Kim.

And you're pretty naive if you think that Hillary isn't at least a little pissed that Bill gets the credit when she got the criticism.

Don't project your petty iness onto other people.

[DarrinS]

I don't think the women were doing anything wrong -- the N.Koreans are just bat crazy (at least their current govt. is).

[Crookshanks]

I never said the women were doing anything wrong. But they were doing a story on the trafficking of women and crossed the border into North Korea. Everyone knows the North Korean government is crazy - so they shouldn't have been anywhere near the border. That's why I said they deserve SOME of the blame for their plight.

[clambake]

I never said the women were doing anything wrong. But they were doing a story on the trafficking of women and crossed the border into North Korea. Everyone knows the North Korean government is crazy - so they shouldn't have been anywhere near the border. That's why I said they deserve SOME of the blame for their plight.

if they only had oil.......we could liberate them.

[George Gervin's Afro]

if they only had oil.......we could liberate them.

I'm ready for shock and awe part II!

[Rogue]

I never said the women were doing anything wrong. But they were doing a story on the trafficking of women and crossed the border into North Korea. Everyone knows the North Korean government is crazy - so they shouldn't have been anywhere near the border. That's why I said they deserve SOME of the blame for their plight.

The women would have done something if kind of chance had been given. They appeared at a wrong place where they were not supposed to be when they got caught. It's sexing true that the NK governors have kind of crack in their re ed heads, but it seemed more than reasonable to jail two "journalists" who are suspected to be spies.

The real journalists sent abroad should be those with typical appearances of white people or black people, but not a couple of asian lesbians with faces. Clearly if they had managed to penetrate into a NK village, it wouldn't have been a difficult job for them to act as native koreans and live there for several years, collecting some valuable intelligence for their commanders like CIA. Besides, there have already been hundreds of cases about European and American journalists being jailed in some middle east countries like Iran, but none of them has ever drawn the attention of someone weighing as much as an ex-president does. It was Bill's first visit to NK for the only purpose of getting two common journalists released, I mean Bill hadn't even made one trip to NK during the 8 yrs when he was in office.

I suspect the two lesbians are trained agents hired by CIA and assigned to some asian countries for spying work. Unfortunately, they got caught not very long after reaching that area and hadn't got crap by the time they got arrested, and that's why the Koreans have already agreed to release them. I'm pretty sure they would have got executed if they had witnessed some evidence suggesting the Koreans were making some mass destruction weapons.

[ChumpDumper]

Have you ever made a coherent post in your life?

Besides, there have already been hundreds of cases about European and American journalists being jailed in some middle east countries like Iran, but none of them has ever drawn the attention of someone weighing as much as an ex-president does.

Perhaps you can fill me in on, oh, one hundred of those cases. Should be easy for you. After all, you called the reporters lesbians when both are married to men and one had a child with her husband -- so you are really on top of things.

[Rogue]

Have you ever made a coherent post in your life?Perhaps you can fill me in on, oh, one hundred of those cases. Should be easy for you. After all, you called the reporters lesbians when both are married to men and one had a child with her husband -- so you are really on top of things.

I just feel kind of upset for Bill's trip, dude traveled through thousands of miles to a country which has always been hostile to US and begged for the respites of two stupid "journalists" who don't actually deserve Bill's efforts.

[Oh, Gee!!]

this is good news for America, but you'd never guess it by the reaction of the righties. wonder how dubya would've botched this thing?

[ElNono]

wonder how dubya would've botched this thing?

We would probably have Colin Powell doing his presentation/show in the UN with photoshopped satellite pictures showing North Korean 'mobile nucular trucks', while the China and Russia representatives are bursting out in laughter. Followed by operation 'Get Shorty' with the Brits. In the meantime, insHannity would have a show explaining why diplomacy never works with these lunatics...

[ChumpDumper]

I just feel kind of upset for Bill's trip, dude traveled through thousands of miles to a country which has always been hostile to US and begged for the respites of two stupid "journalists" who don't actually deserve Bill's efforts.

Why not?

this is good news for America, but you'd never guess it by the reaction of the righties.

Remember, their only hope is that things everywhere get worse.

[Rogue]

Why not?

7 American soldiers got killed in Afghanistan yesterday but no one has given a crap to the sad news, I only heard it on KSCJ last night when I was listening to John & Jeff show and, and it was only reported once during a short news flash. Obviously 7 young lives weighed more than two old ones of mutha sexing immigrants with ugly faces and probably stink smells even.

[ChumpDumper]

7 American soldiers got killed in Afghanistan yesterday but no one has given a crap to the sad news, I only heard it on KSCJ last night when I was listening to John & Jeff show and, and it was only reported once during a short news flash. Obviously 7 young lives weighed more than two old ones of mutha sexing immigrants with ugly faces and probably stink smells even.

I heard it during the day, so obviously someone gave a crap.

There are now going to be about 100,000 NATO forces there, so someone is indeed there, regardless of your vapid comments.

[LnGrrrR]

So... would board conservatives be upset if these women were waterboarded as suspected spies, captured on a 'battlefield'?

[hater]

7 American soldiers got killed in Afghanistan yesterday but no one has given a crap to the sad news, I only heard it on KSCJ last night when I was listening to John & Jeff show and, and it was only reported once during a short news flash. Obviously 7 young lives weighed more than two old ones of mutha sexing immigrants with ugly faces and probably stink smells even.

so Billy should have gone to Afghanistan to recover the dead bodies instead?

[bigzak25]

good job slick willie!

[jack sommerset]

I just feel kind of upset for Bill's trip, dude traveled through thousands of miles to a country which has always been hostile to US and begged for the respites of two stupid "journalists" who don't actually deserve Bill's efforts.

Don't. Bill inducted them into the mile high club on the way home. Some pictures for some lives. Seems pretty ing smart to me. Does N Korea have anymore americans jailed?

[Viva Las Espuelas]

ok. i'm glad they're back and all.....



but WTH?!?!?!?!?!

[johnsmith]

This thread has been a failure for the OP.

[ChumpDumper]

ok. i'm glad they're back and all.....



but WTH?!?!?!?!?!

They are home and free and it was breaking news on Fox.

You guys really need to find something else to complain about.

[LnGrrrR]

I think she was referring to Gore in the bg.