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    Who has the final say when it comes to calling someone a complete bust? I'm not sure, but if you look back at his "career", Leinart is best known for coming out of Paris Hilton's house in the early mornings. Maybe the USC profootball style offense really can't produce NFL ready QB's.

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    Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart, the 2004 Heisman winner who has to date been a bust in the NFL, made a much-publicized effort to improve his fortunes by spending part of the offseason engaged in MMA training with FOX's Jay Glazer.

    Though it might have transformed the "pretty boy" into a "killer," Leinart also could be on track to becoming an "emergency quarterback."

    Leinart reportedly is in a battle with Brian St. Pierre, a guy coach Ken Whisenhunt brought from Pittsburgh, to serve as Kurt Warner's backup.

    "I think they're just pushing me, as they've been doing for a long time now," Leinart said Tuesday, according to the Associated Press. "I've been through a lot the last couple of years and seen a lot of different situations and stuff, so what's another one for the books?"

    Leinart also takes issue with the notion that he's a bust.

    "For me, it's just nonsense," Leinart said. "I've learned you don't pay attention to that stuff. Guys are going to try to create controversy or drama and all that kind of stuff. One little article is not going to put me down. I've been through a lot more than that."

    But it's more than "controversy" or "drama." It's fact.

    Leinart has a career passer rating of 71.7. And, after starting eleven games as a rookie under coach Dennis Green, Leinart has been unable to win the trust of Whisenhunt.

    In 2007, Kurt Warner began making relief-style appearances when the Cardinals would fall behind, with Leinart typically returning only after the spark provided by Warner helped erase any scoreboard deficits. Leinart reportedly said that he wanted the team to "ride or die with me," and then a broken collarbone made Warner the full-time quarterback for the rest of the season.

    And last year Whisenhunt threw Leinart and the rest of the league a curve ball by benching Leinart and elevating Warner, who took the team to the Super Bowl.

    So instead of Leinart trying to knock off Warner in 2009, Leinart finds himself potentially sliding down another notch -- which possibly could get him traded or cut, in our view.

    "To be talking about a compe ion at the second-team quarterback to me just means there's not a whole lot else going on," Leinart said, "because nobody talks about the battles for the second-team running back or the second-team linebacker and there's no difference in my eyes."

    Sorry, Matt. But the gradual disintegration of the career of a top-ten draft pick is always newsworthy. It was one thing to be leapfrogged by a two-time league MVP; this year, the fact that you're in danger of being overcome by a bona fide journeyman slapola merits rubbernecking.
    --PG

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200.../cards.qbs.ap/

    FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. (AP) -- A year ago in training camp, Matt Leinart was trying, and ultimately failing, to keep the Arizona starting quarterback job.

    Now he's in a fight to remain No. 2.

    Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt assured Brian St. Pierre that he'd get a shot at the backup job to Kurt Warner, and he hasn't backed off that pledge in the first week of camp.

    "I think they're just pushing me, as they've been doing for a long time now," Leinart said in an interview on Tuesday. "I've been through a lot the last couple of years and seen a lot of different situations and stuff, so what's another one for the books?"

    Leinart says he's confident in his abilities -- and he laughs off suggestions that this is another sign that his NFL career is a bust.

    "For me, it's just nonsense," he said. "I've learned you don't pay attention to that stuff. Guys are going to try to create controversy or drama and all that kind of stuff. One little article is not going to put me down. I've been through a lot more than that."

    Whisenhunt brushed aside the situation as a non-story.

    "To be talking about a compe ion at the second-team quarterback to me just means there's not a whole lot else going on," he said, "because nobody talks about the battles for the second-team running back or the second-team linebacker and there's no difference in my eyes."

    Except when the name is Leinart, who won the Heisman Trophy and directed USC to two national championships before coming to the Cardinals. A year ago, Leinart and Warner had a tough fight for the job before the veteran was named the starter just after the last preseason game.

    What followed was a Pro Bowl season for Warner and a spectacular run to the Super Bowl, with Leinart watching from the sidelines. The young quarterback never complained, and he isn't complaining now with St. Pierre in the picture.

    "It doesn't bother me at all because I know what I need to do just to continue to have a chance to play and that's all I'm really worried about," he said. "I welcome compe ion, as everyone else should, because it makes you better, I think."

    St. Pierre, undrafted out of Boston College in 2003, has a long relationship with Whisenhunt going back to their days with the Pittsburgh Steelers. St. Pierre became a free agent after last season and was lured by Kansas City after Arizona offensive coordinator Todd Haley became head coach of the Chiefs.

    Whisenhunt didn't want to let St. Pierre get away.

    "I think that one thing that he wanted to know is he would have a chance to compete," Whisenhunt said, "and I think we've shown that, whether it's the quarterback position or any other position, we believe in compe ion. So I feel very good about how he and Matt have both competed."

    St. Pierre said it's the first chance he's been given in his pro career to compete for the No. 2 job.

    "Hopefully it's an open compe ion," he said. "I understand how people perceive it with Matt being the No. 10 pick a couple of years ago. I have a lot probably going against me, but all I want is an honest chance."

    The coaches have been impressed with the growing maturity of Leinart, who at 26 and entering his fourth NFL season seems to have escaped his party-boy image.

    "This game forces you to grow up a lot, no matter what position or what you go through," Leinart said. "You become a man, you become a professional, you learn to act like a professional football player."

    He also points to his 3-year-old son Cole.

    "Becoming a father really made a big difference in my life in the best way possible, as it probably does most parents," he said.

    Leinart says he's more comfortable with the offense than he's ever been. He's making the right reads, and the game is slowing down for him, he said.

    Since Leinart went down with a broken collarbone in Game 5 of the 2007 season, Warner has made 31 straight starts. Leinart played in just four games last season and was on the sidelines throughout the playoffs.

    Last season in New England, longtime backup quarterback Matt Cassel was forced into immediate action when Tom Brady sustained a season-ending knee injury in the Patriots' opening game.

    He led the Patriots to an 11-5 mark and turned that into a lucrative deal with the Kansas City Chiefs.

    "You just have to always be ready. You look at Matt Cassel's situation," Leinart said. "I realize that I'm one play away but you've just got to keep preparing and keep studying and keep learning as much as you can because when that opportunity comes, I want to play at a high level like Kurt plays at."

    Leinart prides himself on his patience but says he is getting anxious.

    "I'm starting to get on edge a little bit," he said. "I just want to get out there. I feel I haven't played in a while, which is true, but like I said, I'll be ready to go."

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    Be careful Paul, johngateswhiteley will be coming after you. Matt was the "best rookie qb ever" per JGW.

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    Thanks Mikey, I've built a moat around the house now and pulled back the draw bridge...BRING IT ON, the cannons are locked and loaded.

    --PG

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    nice.


    Honestly though, I thought Leinart was the best prepared coming out of college and thought he would really be better by now. Oops..then again, I thought Alfredrick Hughes was going to be an all-star.

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    At least Vince made a Pro Bowl

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    lol leinart

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    Who will have a better career? Matt Leinart or Brady Quinn?

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    quinn

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    lol 2006 draft

    reggie bush
    vince young
    veron daivs
    michale huff
    matt lienhart
    brodrick bunkley
    bobby carepenter
    Lawrence maroney
    Manny lawson
    John McCargo
    Marcedes Lewis
    Kelley Jennings

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    I think Quinn too.

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    Bunkley is actually pretty solid. mbarber24 is a moron however.

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    Yeah, USC can't produce NFL Ready QB's. Just look at Carson Palmer.

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    Not calling him a bust yet. People were willing to write off Warner yet he brought them to the Super Bowl last season and almost won the damn thing. My point is the team you are on determines a great deal of ur success you have. Cardinals never seemed to embrace Leinart. Yet he is still there, paying him all that money. Something smells.

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    Be careful Paul, johngateswhiteley will be coming after you. Matt was the "best rookie qb ever" per JGW.
    its pretty simple.

    1) Leinart is behind Kurt Warner...Warner is one of the best QBs in the league

    2) Leinart lost his job when he became injured...he's played about a year

    3) KenW said St. Pierre would get a shot at backup...whats surprising about that...compe ion in the NFL? shoot, thats not fair...wait, or is it

    ...we will see what happens when Leinart gets a shot on another team or Warner gets retired/hurt. only then is it fair to make a judgment...he has basically had his rookie year and thats it...not much of a barometer.

    aside from that...

    1) carson palmer (pretty good till he got hurt)

    2) Matt Cassel (good last year, we'll see going forward)

    3) Mark Sanchez (we'll see)

    4) John David Booty (maybe not much we'll see)

    5) Matt Leinart (we'll see)

    finally, considering there are 32 teams in the NFL and close to 250 division 1 and 1aa football schools, with few starting QB jobs available...its great when any player from any school does well. there aren't many great QBs in the league...1 from a school is more than their share. Palmer and Cassel is far more than any schools share. is there any school with more than 3 starting QBs in the NFL? thats where USC is.

    think first...

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    1) carson palmer (good)

    2) Matt Cassel (crap)

    3) Mark Sanchez (crap)

    4) John David Booty (crap)

    5) Matt Leinart (mega crap)

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    its great when any player from any school does well. there aren't many great QBs in the league...1 from a school is more than their share. Palmer and Cassel is far more than any schools share. is there any school with more than 3 starting QBs in the NFL? thats where USC is.
    2 of whom suck balls

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    1) carson palmer (good)

    2) Matt Cassel (crap)

    3) Mark Sanchez (crap)

    4) John David Booty (crap)

    5) Matt Leinart (mega crap)
    you can't say sanchez is crap yet he hasn't done anyting yet

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    We really don't know about Sanchez. I don't think Cassel is anything special. He is a game managing QB.

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    you can't say sanchez is crap yet he hasn't done anyting yet
    your face is crap

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    1) carson palmer (good)

    2) Matt Cassel (crap)

    3) Mark Sanchez (crap)

    4) John David Booty (crap)

    5) Matt Leinart (mega crap)
    1) Cassel is crap? in his first year starting he was great

    2) Sanchez hasn't played yet

    3) i'll give you Booty...he might be poop

    that being said, i bet USC has more starting QBs in the NFL and more QBs on active roster than any other school. thats damn impressive.

    btw, reread my post and understand how great my points were.

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    I feel bad for people who listen to SA radio if he is what you have to hear. If he thinks SC can't produce "NFL ready QB's" then he must not know much.

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    Hey Johngateswhiteley,

    First off, can you really consider Cassel a USC QB? Ya the guy was penciled in there as a bench player but, Cassel spent time at tight end and wide receiver in 2001, and some special teams that year. He started at halfback against California once as well, even making his lone collegiate start at that position. During his four seasons there, Cassel completed 19 of 33 passes for 192 yards, with no touchdowns and one interception. -- BRAVO...BR-AAA-FREAKIN-O

    So can you consider him at tightend and halfback as well...please.

    I'd rather have these guys

    From Boston College...please give a warm welcome to:

    1) Matt Ryan
    2) Matt Hasselbeck

    and ... representing Purdue University

    1) Kyle Orton
    2) Drew Brees

    Do USC QB's get paid, ya they do, but do they perform, that remains to be seen my friend.

    Palmer has done it, I'll give ya that. Cassel and the fairy dust "The Hoody" sprinkled on him won't last in KC. Sanchez is my boy, see I'm a Jets fan, and there's already word that he'll be sitting to start the year because he's not reading defenses fast enough and does more dancing than throwing.

    I will give you this pal, if all three of you U SUCK CALIFORNIA QB's do well, I will come back in here and PIMP you out like no other, but until then, as my first grade teacher use to say to me, "Young man, shut up and sit down!!!"

    --PG

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    1) Cassel is crap? in his first year starting he was great

    2) Sanchez hasn't played yet

    3) i'll give you Booty...he might be poop

    that being said, i bet USC has more starting QBs in the NFL and more QBs on active roster than any other school. thats damn impressive.

    btw, reread my post and understand how great my points were.
    no your points suck as always because you're a moron

    sanchez will suck

    booty sucks

    leinart sucks

    cassel was only good because he was in the best offensive system in football, throwing behind a great line, to guys like moss and welker. and he still put up very average stats. hes going to suck chode in KC, like most usc qbs

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    Kyle Orton shouldn't be mentioned as a good QB.

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