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    This an idea floated by a friend of mine who is not a Spurs fan but is a huge NBA guy, lots of knowledge about the cap and the game. He likes to float out proposals he thinks would help both teams. I am as big of a Manu fan as there is but the arguments for this deal piqued my interest.

    "What do you guys think of a Boozer/Ginobili deal? Seems to make some sense for both teams? Both are on expiring deals. San Anton gets some young blood in the mix and a pretty scary front line. Seems like Boozer might thrive there since Duncan and Pop could maybe convince him to play some D. Plus, the Boozer/Parker pick-and-roll would be awesome. Also, Boozer runs the floor better than any of their other big men so that gives them another weapon in the arsenal (the fast break with Parker leading, RJeff running out ahead on the wing, Boozer back-filling the lane, and Mason/Finley trailing to the 3-point line will be scary).

    I dunno, maybe they don't need Boozer since they have Blair and McDyess now. But I see it as more of a smart intermediate-term move for them as well. The Jefferson move has ed up the Spurs future cap space. So the only way for them to add big-money talent now is through trades. If they trade for Boozer now, they will have a huge advantage in their ability to re-sign him next summer. Boozer and Manu will likely be equally productive players this year, and possibly in 2011 as well, but Boozer has a longer shelf life. As they transition into the Duncan-as-role-player/post-Duncan era, I think a Parker-Boozer-Jefferson core would be far more successful than Parker-Ginobili-Jefferson. Plus, since Boozer and Blair are both sorta broke they would likely be a nice complement as the Spurs can give the heavier load to whichever one isn't hurting.

    For Utah, I think it is obvious they would click accept. There are ways to structure the deal so that it offers them more luxury tax relief (for example, send Korver to the Spurs who would likely want another bench wing man that can shoot after getting rid of Ginobili, and send Bonner who would be useless post-Boozer to Detroit who needs a big) but more to the point it would be a straight positional swap. They give up a dude that plays their deepest position for a player of approximately equal value that plays the position where they are weakest. Huge upgrade. Test drive Ginobili for a year and if they like him, they have his Bird rights. If he ends up walking, they've at least saved a little money and given themselves a better shot in 2010."

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    Blair > Boozer

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    Injured Manu > Healthy Boozer

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    no

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    Not a chance in would I do that.

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    I'd swap him for Deron Williams.

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    Not just no, but llll no.

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    Considering we have 7 bigs on the roster already, no.

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    Who are you people?

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    You Bring up an interesting point. However Ginobili brings energy and 4th quarter heroics to the game. Boozer does not. Also Boozer health is just as bad as Ginobili's. I would trade Jefferson for Boozer and Korver, not Manu. Boozer has a sweet High arc jumper and to compliment he has post moves using either hand. Ohh yeah and he'll get rebounds and dunk the ball. Him playing defense is not a problem, Pop has a system just like Sloan has a system. If he can play under Sloan, He can definitely play under Pop.

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    Boozer defense = owned by Oberto

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    Boozer defense = owned by Oberto
    that was 2007, plus he had no playoff/ big game experience.

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    We have lots of potentially good bigs right now, and we DO NOT have many perimeter creators...

    This would imbalance our offense terribly. Boozer would need too many touches to be effective, because he would be taking shots away from Duncan.

    That said, I am concerned about our post play going into the future; not so much that I would jettison our only starter-quality sg.

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    Boozer is severely overrated, as most fantasy basketball allstars are.

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    naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw.

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    baaaahhh humbug!

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    that was 2007, plus he had no playoff/ big game experience.
    Boozer had 6-8 blocks last season. And he was only injured about 25 games IIRC.

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    Give me some time to think about it. *1 sec.* No.

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    I'd say no because Boozer doesn't fill a need. The Spurs have quite a few big men already, so acquiring another one doesn't do them any good. I like Boozer's game, but the Spurs would need a perimeter scorer if they traded Gino away.

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    I would not do it, but from a "talent" standpoint, people need to quit acting like Boozer is some scrub.

    Is he a massive ? Yes. Does he play very poor defense? Yes. But he has talent and has been a ~20/10 guy for a while. Most of the league or GM's would put Manu on the same tier as Boozer value wise when both are healthy. Some may put Boozer much ahead.

    Spurs value Manu for his hustle, heart and intangibles. He is a good guy and easy to root for when he is on your team. But people need to quit flaming the OP like it is some ridiculous idea.

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    Puleassse!

    The fact of the matter is that it IS a ridiculous idea.

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    Not just no, but llll no.

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    In...like sin and no!!!

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    way to join the community

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