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    Lies! They pay him in goat milk.

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    Panagiotis Angelopoulos teaches his daughter Antigone to handle the family's books at their financial offices in Peace and Friendship Stadium (front facade seen below)

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    Y'all are mean.

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    So the "investigation" was on the 1st of July and the complaint by Pargo is on the 4th of August. Doesn't sound like a response to me.

    But thank you for voluntarily admitting that 57% of your top league doesn't pay its players.
    You stupid fool. Pargo was already off the team before this. He was cut from the team before the season even ended for poor playing.

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    You stupid fool. Pargo was already off the team before this. He was cut from the team before the season even ended for poor playing.
    Yes, I know - and the complaint was after this.

    But enough about Pargo. What about the 57% of other Greek A teams who don't pay their players?

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    Yes, I know - and the complaint was after this.

    But enough about Pargo. What about the 57% of other Greek A teams who don't pay their players?
    WTF? You can't read Greek. And you also fail at math.

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    WTF? You can't read Greek. And you also fail at math.
    So are you american or greek-american?

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    So are you american or greek-american?
    KBP doesn't have crap to do with american IMHO.

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    According to the link you provided Panathinaikos, Olympiacos, Maroussi, Panellinios, Kolossos Rodou, and Aris have no debt.

    Trikala and AEL have 2 months unpaid; Kavala and Panionios have 3; AEK 5; PAOK and Egaleo 6; and Olympia Larissa 7 and a half.

    If I'm not mistaken that's 8 out of 14 which have liabilities.

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    According to the link you provided Panathinaikos, Olympiacos, Maroussi, Panellinios, Kolossos Rodou, and Aris have no debt.

    Trikala and AEL have 2 months unpaid; Kavala and Panionios have 3; AEK 5; PAOK and Egaleo 6; and Olympia Larissa 7 and a half.

    If I'm not mistaken that's 8 out of 14 which have liabilities.
    Those are not Greek League teams.

    Also Trikala, Kavala, Panionios, AEK, PAOK have no debts. You are BANNED from the league if you do. Those clubs are all registered in the league, meaning they have paid all debts.

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    Yes, they were A1 Ethniki teams for the 2008-09 season.

    Did you even read the link you provided?

    Can you read Greek?

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    Yes, they were A1 Ethniki teams for the 2008-09 season.

    Did you even read the link you provided?

    Can you read Greek?
    Stop being a jerk.

    There is no ing way in you would have ever found that without being able to read Greek. How ing stupid are you?

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    You ing idiot. Forbes only lists money held in US assets. All their money is held in Swiss assets.


    http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/16/bil...thodology.html

    I couldn't find a fake Greek version for you, but no, it includes all assets, not just money held in US.

    And by Swiss assets, do you mean, like illegal $? Stuff like Nazi money? How would you know they are billionaires if they actually take the step to put it in a Swiss account to ensure secrecy? How would any one know? Why would they call themselves billionaire if the whole point of storing money in Swiss bank is to cut the audit trail?

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    For those who are interested, some information on the 51% owner of Olympiakos:
    http://cryptome.org/kokkalis-rfi.htm

    SOCRATES KOKKALIS: Greece, $1.6 billion, Age: 60. The business: Heads publicly traded Intracom, an electronics- and telecommunications-equipment company big in Greece and the Balkans. An affiliate, Intralot, runs the lottery in Romania and Bulgaria. What's new: Signed a $100 million deal with Lexington, Mass.-based Raytheon to build components for Patriot missiles. Time off: Funds the Socrates Kokkalis Program at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government to study the transition to democracy in the Balkans.
    Seemed like he really WAS a billionaire, in 1999. Too bad the tech industry collapsed.

    Also, check this:

    http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/07...76a_print.html

    A Forbes article from 1999, maybe they included non-US assets back then?

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    http://www.forbes.com/2009/03/16/bil...thodology.html

    I couldn't find a fake Greek version for you, but no, it includes all assets, not just money held in US.

    And by Swiss assets, do you mean, like illegal $? Stuff like Nazi money? How would you know they are billionaires if they actually take the step to put it in a Swiss account to ensure secrecy? How would any one know? Why would they call themselves billionaire if the whole point of storing money in Swiss bank is to cut the audit trail?
    So the New York Times lied?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/sp...l/12owner.html

    Panayiotis and George Angelopoulos are billionaire brothers



    Also again, the third owner Kokkalis is also a billionaire. So STFU.

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    For those who are interested, some information on the 51% owner of Olympiakos:
    http://cryptome.org/kokkalis-rfi.htm



    Seemed like he really WAS a billionaire, in 1999. Too bad the tech industry collapsed.

    Also, check this:

    http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/07...76a_print.html

    A Forbes article from 1999, maybe they included non-US assets back then?
    Who the are you? YOU. You know nothing about this issue and act like you are an authority.

    For your information Angelopouloi brothers own one of the biggest steel companies in Europe. They also own one of the biggest shipping companies in Greece.

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    Do they own Comcast as well?

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    For those who are interested, some information on the 51% owner of Olympiakos:
    http://cryptome.org/kokkalis-rfi.htm



    Seemed like he really WAS a billionaire, in 1999. Too bad the tech industry collapsed.

    Also, check this:

    http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/07...76a_print.html

    A Forbes article from 1999, maybe they included non-US assets back then?
    Hey moron, on the internet it says Kokkalis had 535 million REVENUES in 2005 from his company. And he owns 49% of that income. What the is wrogn with you?


    AEK owners = billionaires
    Maroussi owners = billionaires
    Panathinaikos owners = Giannakouloi family = billionaires

    Panionios owner is not a billionaire but he is in something like 250 million dollars himself. You are obviously a xenophobic, ethnocentric, bigot and a hater of the good as.

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    a hater of the good as.

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    lol @ kbp getting worked up

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    Hey moron, on the internet it says Kokkalis had 535 million REVENUES in 2005 from his company. And he owns 49% of that income. What the is wrogn with you?


    AEK owners = billionaires
    Maroussi owners = billionaires
    Panathinaikos owners = Giannakouloi family = billionaires

    Panionios owner is not a billionaire but he is in something like 250 million dollars himself. You are obviously a xenophobic, ethnocentric, bigot and a hater of the good as.
    Do you understand basic accounting? Revenues mean . Try giving us the COSTS with it or just skip to the end and give us the NET. Also, he would own 49% of the company, not 49% of the NET. The money is still the company's. If the company is doing well and making lots of money (which is what I think you are trying to say) all that indicates is that his share of the company has a higher value and he might get higher dividends. I am not saying your wrong about him being a billionaire, I'm saying for someone claiming to be an authority you get alot of things like this wrong.

    Also for someone who is constantly complaining against bigots (your word), you sure seem bigoted against Americans and the NBA. You also breakout into unnecessary and demeaning (FOR YOU) rants involving needless posts and bad usage of vulgar language. If you want to be respected, stop calling everyone else a liar just because they disagree with you, it makes you look 3 years old. Don't needlessly lash out and attack respected members of the board and demand that they get pinked. All you are doing is acting immature and you will be rightfully mocked for it.

    However, if you are, as some people claim, just an American troll pretending to be Greek, keep on as you have been. If you really are what you claim to be and are willing to share and debate about that in a reasonable manner, I would welcome you as a potentially valuable member of this board. However that type of respect has to be earned, and your actions have stopped that.

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