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I forgot who I'm talking to. Indazone's Euro-hyping troll.Your statements are ignorant, ridiculous, and absurd. It is really beyond laughable what you are saying here. 75-80 percent od world's best players???????
Let me rephrase... Dirk entered the league early because he was a talented jumpshooting seven footer.
Saying that Manu was unqualified to enter the league in that timeframe had less to do with Ginobili's actual talent level than with the fact that he was perceived as an unproven quan y... He had to win to show them otherwise.
I forgot who I'm talking to. Indazone's Euro-hyping troll.Your statements are ignorant, ridiculous, and absurd. It is really beyond laughable what you are saying here. 75-80 percent od world's best players???????
Bill Bradley won the Euroleague's predecessor, the European Champions Cup, in 1965-66. There was no Euroleague back then. So the previous statement is factually correct.
The Euroleague did not exist in 1965-66.
Of course Indazone does.
Andrew Gaze
Manu > defender, passer, and ball handler
No ski > scorer and rebounder
Manu played fewer minutes on better NBA teams so his PPG average really doesn't capture his more diverse offensive capabilities of driving, drawing fouls, and versatility.
Manu is just a warrior and a winner. While his stats are solid, they don't fully capture what he brings to the team. I think Dirk is a great guy but soft in my book and I'd not rather have had him on the Spurs by any stretch.
Diridas Ginobonis
So? The Grizzlies then were still a of a lot better then they are now.
It was founded in 1957, IIRC.
That wasn't my point... I was throwing back his dismissiveness of an entire franshise [Clippers] by using his exact same words... all the while he sideskirted the implication of his initial comment as I questioned whether or not Olowokandi's draft position was justified...
Bull . The Euroleague and the Champions Cup is the same thing idiot.
You are a real moron.
Euroleague existed starting in 1957 dumb ass. It changed names several times and twice changes who owned it. It is the SAME league idiot.
let us stop insults please.
the draft rank doesn't mean crap when it comes to the capabilities of a player, even from the rear parts of first round and second round can jump out some decent draftees sometimes like Manu and TL, as well as Gilbert Arenas, Michael Redd, Josh Howard, etc... So it's also reasonable that some draftees with high picks are not granted to live up to expectations, sometimes even No.1 draftees may turn out to be craps, Kwame Brown and Yao for examples.
Exactly, Euroleague existed starting in 1957 dumb ass, though I have no idea where the 1957 dumbass is located. I'm just pretty sure KBP never makes any mistake, at least he thinks so.
no his draft position wasn't justified.
La euroleague y el champions cuppa eras la uno idiota, Vd correcto.
Was it called 'Euroleague' in 1965?
Simple question, Yes or No.
Answer the question. Yes or No?
Are you re ed?
Go here:
http://www.euroleague.net/history/50-years/main
click where it says EUROLEAGUE HISTORY THROUGH THE DECADES
LIST OF CHAMPS
· Champions: 1958 to 2008
that will bring you here
http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/11836/180/item
notice where it says European club champions: 1958-2008
Stop embarrasing yourself.
I do not know where some Spurs fans are getting this info that Manu was the only player to win NBA, Euroleague, and Olympics but it is certainly wrong information.
As much as I hate to be on the same side as KBP in an argument, if you're arguing that Bradley's achievement was different because the league was named differently then, you'd be wrong.
The Minneapolis Lakers won their les in the BAA, yet are recognized as former champions by the NBA, which was formed after the BAA and NBL merged. That being the case, given that the league Bradley won his championship in is the same league existing now under a different name, he should indeed be recognized as a former Euroleague champion.
jajaja KBP es idiota que no tamberis mierda de tu quescion. jajajajaja
That's true, but the achievement could be different. Did Bradley won the Erouleague's MVP, Olympics' MVP and came one vote short of beign NBA finals MVP?
I really don't know. Did he won the MVP of any of those tournaments?
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