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    I'm pretty sure it was the Supreme Court that established the precedent of treating corporations as "persons" under the law.
    No, I'm talking about the ruling about whether the NFL counts as ONE business or 32 separate businesses.

    http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/05/26/s...rk-on-nfl-mlb/

    In the NFL ruling, Sotomayor was part of the appeals court panel which reaffirmed the NFL's eligibility rule, which says that players must be out of high school for at least three years before they can be drafted or sign as a free agent.
    Well, the NFL has a case right now against a clothing manufacturer, and they're hoping SCOTUS will look at it and consider the 1 vs 32 ramifications. It could change sports significantly if SCOTUS takes the case.

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    I don't undestand why the senate even confirms a nomination. We elect a President to do a bunch of stuff...including appoint judges to the supreme court.
    However, the anarchist within me cries for Ted Nugent's appointment.

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    I don't undestand why the senate even confirms a nomination. We elect a President to do a bunch of stuff...including appoint judges to the supreme court.
    However, the anarchist within me cries for Ted Nugent's appointment.
    I believe that the Cons ution says the President appoints a judge with the consent/advice of the Senate... any Cons ution buffs feel like looking it up?

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    Sotomayer is a horrid choice
    Who would you have selected?

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    I believe that the Cons ution says the President appoints a judge with the consent/advice of the Senate... any Cons ution buffs feel like looking it up?
    You've got it, Article II.

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    Who would you have selected?
    Didn't say I had a favored choice, just said she was a bad one. If she was the best choice, we're in trouble as a country.

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    Didn't say I had a favored choice, just said she was a bad one. If she was the best choice, we're in trouble as a country.
    How is she any more or less qualified than the nominees who have been selected in the past twenty years? Prodigious and distinguished appellate experience, Yale Law Review, taught at NYU Law and Columbia - I don't know about best choice, but that's such a subjective evaluation. She's more than qualified.

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    How is she any more or less qualified than the nominees who have been selected in the past twenty years? Prodigious and distinguished appellate experience, Yale Law Review, taught at NYU Law and Columbia - I don't know about best choice, but that's such a subjective evaluation. She's more than qualified.
    I don't like the history of her cases that have gone to SCOTUS. She seems to be in the wrong a lot on those.

    On a personal level, I can't stand the way the she writes her opinions, and she has way too many personal comments that are just asinine and stupid.

    I didn't say she wasn't qualified, I said she was a poor choice.

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    I don't like the history of her cases that have gone to SCOTUS. She seems to be in the wrong a lot on those.

    On a personal level, I can't stand the way the she writes her opinions, and she has way too many personal comments that are just asinine and stupid.

    I didn't say she wasn't qualified, I said she was a poor choice.
    Eh, people get reversed. Five cases out of 380 opinions written isn't much of a sample size.

    And having suffered through Con Law recently, I can say she'll join a distinguished tradition of bad writing.

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    Eh, people get reversed. Five cases out of 380 opinions written isn't much of a sample size.
    6 now (4 reversed), and that's only counting the ones she wrote the opinions for. She had a lot more that she was part of the panel for, and while the reversal rate is much lower if you go down to just her being part of the deciding faction, it still feels high to me.

    Of course, I admit I'm biased and could just be rationalizing since everytime I've listen to her say anything, I dislike her more and more on a personal level. I have no problem admitting that.

    And having suffered through Con Law recently, I can say she'll join a distinguished tradition of bad writing.
    Well, that's true. She seems worse than average at that, but with a large panel, hopefully she won't be writing the opinions often, and it's rare that anyone is actually GOOD at it.

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    6 now (4 reversed), and that's only counting the ones she wrote the opinions for. She had a lot more that she was part of the panel for, and while the reversal rate is much lower if you go down to just her being part of the deciding faction, it still feels high to me.

    Of course, I admit I'm biased and could just be rationalizing since everytime I've listen to her say anything, I dislike her more and more on a personal level. I have no problem admitting that.



    Well, that's true. She seems worse than average at that, but with a large panel, hopefully she won't be writing the opinions often, and it's rare that anyone is actually GOOD at it.
    Ah yes, the fireman case, good call, though I (like you, probably biased) think that's more about SCOTUS trends than it is about the case itself. I will be interested to see how she integrates herself with the court, that first year is always very difficult, and she'll be expected to get on board fast.

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    You've got it, Article II.
    Thanks!

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    I believe that the Cons ution says the President appoints a judge with the consent/advice of the Senate... any Cons ution buffs feel like looking it up?
    We've been over this before. Yes, Advice and Consent. Thing is, a filibuster is a senate rule. Using it not to allow a consent vote taken will likely be decided uncons utional if ever tested. Judges deserve an up.down vote, and the filibuster should only be used to extend debate. Not prevent a final vote. Using it to prevent a vote I'm sure is uncons utional.

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    I just wonder how Sotomayor feels about being a pawn of affirmative action? I wonder how it makes her feel that she was only nominated because of her race?

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    Again, who do you think was better qualified, Jacob?

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    The confirmation of Judge Sotomayor gives Roman Catholics 6 of 9 Supreme Court seats.
    That this is no big deal now (except to the LaRouchite rump and white iden y churches) shows how far we've come in one respect. 50 years ago it would've been a much bigger deal.

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    Chumpdumper, I will go with your mom. Who do you think would have been a better choice? You?

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    My mother is dead and she wasn't in the legal profession.

    I never said there was a better choice -- you did when you said she was an affirmative action case.

    So I will ask you again, who would have been a better choice and why?

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    Sotomayer is a horrid choice, but it's not like she wouldn't be confirmed. The Senate is mostly a rubber stamp machine for judges unless there's ethical questions.

    I'm just glad she got voted against a significant amount after all the stink raised by the Republicans. There's little more upsetting to see a group of Senators complain incessantly about a nominee and then find the confirmation vote was 98-1 (or some such).
    She was a perfectly qualified choice. I would have prefered republicans drill her on some of the questionable comments and then voted for her after she gave reasonable answers like she did.

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    Sarah Palin.

    It doesn't take a rocket science to know that this whole thing was a product of affirmative action. If Sotomayor had been an old evil white lady, we wouldn't even be talking about her right now. Are you honestly going to tell me that Sotomayor would have been nominated by Obama if she had been white? Do you not remember Obama saying during his campaign that he wanted a Latino on the Supreme Court? Sotomayor should feel disrespected and taken advantage of but she doesn't because she honestly believes that Obama picked her because she was the best person for the job. Sad but true.

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    Sonia's face counts much more than her race does IMHO, Mic e won't be the ugliest woman around Obama any longer. Although Hillary Clinton is already at the retiring age of most jobs, she still looks much prettier than Sonia, even her pussy does as well.

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    Sonia's face counts much more than her race does IMHO, Mic e won't be the ugliest woman around Obama any longer. Although Hillary Clinton is already at the retiring age of most jobs, she still looks much prettier than Sonia, even her pussy does as well.
    WTF?


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    Sarah Palin.

    It doesn't take a rocket science to know that this whole thing was a product of affirmative action. If Sotomayor had been an old evil white lady, we wouldn't even be talking about her right now. Are you honestly going to tell me that Sotomayor would have been nominated by Obama if she had been white? Do you not remember Obama saying during his campaign that he wanted a Latino on the Supreme Court? Sotomayor should feel disrespected and taken advantage of but she doesn't because she honestly believes that Obama picked her because she was the best person for the job. Sad but true.
    You can't name an adequate alternative choice because you don't know what qualifies someone to serve on the Supreme Court. I'll help you - Granholm, Wood, Kagan. Now go do a little research and see if you can figure out why Sotomayor is very well qualified.

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    Sarah Palin.

    It doesn't take a rocket science to know that this whole thing was a product of affirmative action. If Sotomayor had been an old evil white lady, we wouldn't even be talking about her right now. Are you honestly going to tell me that Sotomayor would have been nominated by Obama if she had been white? Do you not remember Obama saying during his campaign that he wanted a Latino on the Supreme Court? Sotomayor should feel disrespected and taken advantage of but she doesn't because she honestly believes that Obama picked her because she was the best person for the job. Sad but true.
    I'm pretty sure she is smarter than you are and understands the importance of her confirmation. Do you realize that your reasoning is why you guys keep losing elections? Worse, you actually believe what you write. You need to start thinking for yourself.

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    Sarah Palin.

    It doesn't take a rocket science to know that this whole thing was a product of affirmative action. If Sotomayor had been an old evil white lady, we wouldn't even be talking about her right now. Are you honestly going to tell me that Sotomayor would have been nominated by Obama if she had been white? Do you not remember Obama saying during his campaign that he wanted a Latino on the Supreme Court? Sotomayor should feel disrespected and taken advantage of but she doesn't because she honestly believes that Obama picked her because she was the best person for the job. Sad but true.
    So it's not remotely or conceivably possible that she could have been the best choice for the job and coincidentally Hispanic? Or, in other words, that she's Hispanic is facial proof that she's unqualified?

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