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Duncan would've put Wade on locks, I know.
DAF86 said Manu is a sure fire HOFer, when that gives him a 5% chance at getting in.
Duncan would've put Wade on locks, I know.
Says the who thinks James Posey would have been guarding Tim Duncan.
I forgot, Bowen actually would've held Wade. My bad.
Tony Parker would have also killed Jason Williams.
Grant Hill was a question. Paul Pierce was a statement. PP is better than Pippen.Even I'm not that much of a homer
I'm not saying that would have been the matchup, but that is what the Heat used to slow Dirk.
Obviously it would have been a Shaq/Zo/Haslem combo guarding Duncan.
But Duncan would get Shaq into foul trouble and/or make him work on both ends. Something he never had to do guarding Diop and Erika.
You can't deny that replacing Dirk with Duncan on that 2006 team GREATLY improves the Mavs chances of winning vs the Heat. The Mavs have always been one decent post scorer/defender from being a REAL contender.
You're right, cause historically Duncan has always owned Shaq in head to head matchups.
Ouch
DAF86 said Manu is a sure fire HOFer, when that gives him a 5% chance at getting in.
Hmmm Allen Iverson AND LeBron James are listed as a 100%... which is actually more than Pippen at .9994, Isiah at .9995 and Dr. J at .9999
Does that mean I should put AI above Pippen too?Or does Pippen's defense hold him above AI? I'd lean towards the second choice.
You know, looking at Jason Kidd's career, I should probably put him up there too. Six All NBA team choices (5 on 1st team), nine all-defense selections (4 on 1st team) and rookie of the year. The only thing he doesn't have is a ring.
Edit: Hey, he's got a chance... there's some guys from the 50s who got in with less than 10%.... hehhe
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Then why the did you post it in the first place?
Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. What I do know is it wouldn't have made it so the Mavs win in 5 games.
Marion will thrive in Dallas's system. His numbers will be similar to his All Star years in Phoenix (though slightly lower because of the glutton of scorers Dallas has.
You haven't read my whole argument. A Dallas fan said Dirk took a team of "mediocre talent" to the Finals.
I aruged Dirk has always had 2 or more other All Star quality players on his team, and therefore he has never had "mediocre talent" around him.
Dirk has played with 9 different guys who were either recent All Stars or All Stars less than 2 years before joining the Mavs. Marion being the most recent one to join him, who was an All Star in 2007.
I'd disagree and say Pippen was better, even though I like Pierce more on a personal level. Pierce has stepped up his defense these last few years, but he wasn't always a good defender.
If you consider Marion an all star player then you're re ed. Being an all star in a system that inflates stats doesn't make you an all star. An all star level player is a player that doesn't need a certain system to be all star caliber.
Exactly. He'll thrive in a certain system. That doesn't make him an all star level player.
Wtf does being an all star before joining the Mavs have to do with how that player played when he was on the Mavs?
Because Miami had the personnel to slow down a jump shooting 7 footer, the Heat won the series (also thanks to some favorable calls for DWade). Posey and Halsem had the length and foot speed to disrupt Dirk's game without using many double teams.
Slowing down a 7 foot jump shooter is easier than slowing down a dominant bigman. You can double a big, but then you leave the shooters wide open on the rotation, and Dallas had shooters that could have come in handy if Dallas had a post option.
Just saying the X-factor of Posey/Haslem on Dirk would not be a factor if you replace Dirk with Duncan.
The Spurs showed several rounds earlier how easy it is to slow down a 7 foot jump shooter.
Please list the two or more all star level players Dirk has had each season throughout his career.
They are some of the top players still in their prime when they played for the Mavs. It's not like I'm mentioning a 40 year old Kevin Willis who played his last ASG in the 80's...
Most guys that played in ASG's in the last 2-3 years would still be considered TOP players. Stackhoue was still an elit score when he joined the Mavs, same for Antoine Walker. Finley and Nash were Top 25 players when they played for the Mavs too. And on and on...
READ THE DAMN THREAD!!!!
Go back 1 PAGE and you'll see I already did that. Now who's the dumbass?
You're saying 13.9 PPG is an elite scorer, because that's what Stack averaged the season before he got traded to Dallas.
And you know you're losing your argument when you have to list Antoine in Walker as a quality player Dirk had during his career.
The Western Conference coaches tend to disagree with you. SInce they voted him into the ASG in 2007.
But I guess you are a better judge of All Star talent than 15 NBA coaches?
Go back 1 PAGE and you'll see I already did that. Now who's the dumbass?
Please refer to a post number. I don't see any post where you clearly listed the "2 or more" all star players Dirk has had his entire career.
What system was he playing in in 2007?
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