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    American girls own dolls that pee, dolls that suck on a bottle, dolls that burp or sit on a potty -- and all are accepted as appropriate by most adults.

    The women discuss the Spanish doll that simulates breast-feeding.But a new doll that breast-feeds has pitted expert against expert and mom against mom over whether this toy has gone too far. None can seem to agree if the Spanish-made Bebe Gloton doll is natural, useful or disgusting.

    The doll is currently sold only in Spain, though Berjuan, the company that makes the toy, said that it will be marketed in the United States next year. The doll allows children to imitate the act of breast-feeding by using a special halter top that comes with the toy. The halter top is made from a colorful material with two flowers positioned where nipples would be.

    When the mouth of the doll is brought close to a sensor embedded in the flower, the baby makes motions and sounds consistent with suckling.

    Cesar Bernabeu, director of sales and marketing for Berjuan, wrote in an e-mail to ABCNews.com that psychologists and teachers were consulted in the development of the toy, and that it has garnered the approval of the Asociacion Pro-Lacttancia Meterna de Espana, a pro-breast-feeding organization in Spain.

    "We realized that the reaction was so positive with the girls when they were imitating their moms and saw that they react to the doll like it was little sister," read Bernabeu's remarks, translated from Spanish. "Their faces of happiness said it all."

    However, a viral video demonstration on YouTube has been met with remarks that the doll is over-sexualizing young girls, or forcing girls to grow up too quickly, or teaching young girls about a natural part of motherhood.


    The company responded to the concerns in their email. "Breast-feeding is completely natural; it is not something that we have invented ourselves, it is something that is done all around the world," Bernabeu wrote. "There are studies that discuss the benefits of breastfeeding, and there are associations around the world that are ... supporting this."

    But not all mothers agree.

    "I heard people talking about it but, honestly, I thought it was a joke," said Ilina Ewen, a writer for the Deep South Moms and her own blog Dirt and Noise.

    "There are just things that I think kids are too little to understand," she said.

    Ewen worried that if her two boys, ages 4 and 6, saw the toy, they would be confused because neither had been breast-fed.

    Yet Ewen admits she has seen many young girls mimic the behavior after watching their mothers nurse their infant siblings.

    "They don't understand they just see other moms doing that. Let kids use their imagination and play with a doll and not deal with what it can do," Ewen said. "There's no need to turn it into something that's anatomically correct. Not at this age."

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Parenti...8271555&page=1

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    Kind of blows Betsy Wetsy away

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    Good God....I was thinking no big deal these dolls that have been around forever BUT then they show a 4-5 year old breast feeding. That is ing sad.
    Last edited by jack sommerset; 08-07-2009 at 12:52 PM.

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    A friend of a friend mine who I hardly see anymore, wants to know where to get one!

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    They need dolls that actually something close to that weird baby .

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    If only these were around when Michale Jackson was alive!

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    I really don't have any opinion as to whether these dolls are good or bad, but it's interesting to me that Americans, in this day and age, continue to treat breastfeeding as something rather "scandalous". Breastfeeding is one of the most valuable, important things a mother can do for her child, what's the big deal really?

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    I don't get it.

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    What is wrong with them? They think of letting the children grow up fast? They let them see shows that are not for children either!

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    Exactly... oh my goodness! Kids would be pretend breats feeding!.... so?

    It's that most Americans can't separate 'breasts' from 'sex'.

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    I really don't have any opinion as to whether these dolls are good or bad, but it's interesting to me that Americans, in this day and age, continue to treat breastfeeding as something rather "scandalous". Breastfeeding is one of the most valuable, important things a mother can do for her child, what's the big deal really?
    I think at the least it's better than the "American Girl Place" designer dolls they sell in Chicago for hundreds of dollars to upper class moms who think that paying more for a doll somehow endears it to the child.

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    A woman pulls out her and lets a kid suck on it they call it human nature, a beautiful thing.

    A man pulls out his and lets a kid suck on it, it's called a crime?

    ing double standards!!

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    They have dolls that you can bottle-feed. I watched the video, and I don't see what the big deal is. I don't think Ilina Ewen and I would get along very well.

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    I think the doll is creepy, because I think all dolls are creepy, but don't have a problem with the fact that it simulates breastfeeding.

    The only part that I find oddly disconcerting is that the name translates roughly to "Drink Glutton."

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    Whats next Abortion Abby doll?

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    I had 3 kids in diapers at once, 2 boys and one girl. It was a madhouse. No way could I have ever guaranteed total privacy for each one for breastfeeding and diaper changes. They were lucky if they got me all to themselves for at least one feeding per day. So they all saw everything. Subsequently, there were always little kids running around my house with teddy bears and stuffed puppies stuck to their ties---both girls and boys I once even had to unstick a MaxiPad from my son's pants---during his baptism!!

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    Too many women don't even want to go through the hassle (Too many women I know at least) of breast feeding, if this can somehow help encourage these young girls to become women that breast feed, I'm all for it.

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    Too many women don't even want to go through the hassle (Too many women I know at least) of breast feeding, if this can somehow help encourage these young girls to become women that breast feed, I'm all for it.
    I am glad someone else said this. Not a single woman in my family from my grandma on down breast fed. All the non-related women I know didn't do it either, one said it was "nasty." Nourishing your child is nasty?!?! When did we get this perception as a society?

    If/when I have kids, I will be the first to breastfeed and I am sure my family will think I am nuts. My sister got a shot that dries the milk up with her first kid, it's sad that we can do the research necessary to produce an optional drug for something like this and for men to get boners but we can't cure anything worthwhile.

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    American girls own dolls that pee, dolls that suck on a bottle, dolls that burp or sit on a potty -- and all are accepted as appropriate by most adults.

    The women discuss the Spanish doll that simulates breast-feeding.But a new doll that breast-feeds has pitted expert against expert and mom against mom over whether this toy has gone too far. None can seem to agree if the Spanish-made Bebe Gloton doll is natural, useful or disgusting.

    The doll is currently sold only in Spain, though Berjuan, the company that makes the toy, said that it will be marketed in the United States next year. The doll allows children to imitate the act of breast-feeding by using a special halter top that comes with the toy. The halter top is made from a colorful material with two flowers positioned where nipples would be.

    When the mouth of the doll is brought close to a sensor embedded in the flower, the baby makes motions and sounds consistent with suckling.

    Cesar Bernabeu, director of sales and marketing for Berjuan, wrote in an e-mail to ABCNews.com that psychologists and teachers were consulted in the development of the toy, and that it has garnered the approval of the Asociacion Pro-Lacttancia Meterna de Espana, a pro-breast-feeding organization in Spain.

    "We realized that the reaction was so positive with the girls when they were imitating their moms and saw that they react to the doll like it was little sister," read Bernabeu's remarks, translated from Spanish. "Their faces of happiness said it all."

    However, a viral video demonstration on YouTube has been met with remarks that the doll is over-sexualizing young girls, or forcing girls to grow up too quickly, or teaching young girls about a natural part of motherhood.


    The company responded to the concerns in their email. "Breast-feeding is completely natural; it is not something that we have invented ourselves, it is something that is done all around the world," Bernabeu wrote. "There are studies that discuss the benefits of breastfeeding, and there are associations around the world that are ... supporting this."

    But not all mothers agree.

    "I heard people talking about it but, honestly, I thought it was a joke," said Ilina Ewen, a writer for the Deep South Moms and her own blog Dirt and Noise.

    "There are just things that I think kids are too little to understand," she said.

    Ewen worried that if her two boys, ages 4 and 6, saw the toy, they would be confused because neither had been breast-fed.

    Yet Ewen admits she has seen many young girls mimic the behavior after watching their mothers nurse their infant siblings.

    "They don't understand they just see other moms doing that. Let kids use their imagination and play with a doll and not deal with what it can do," Ewen said. "There's no need to turn it into something that's anatomically correct. Not at this age."

    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Parenti...8271555&page=1

    Of course your speechless. Have you ever tried to talk while sucking on a ?

    I have mixed feeling like most here, but this only furthers the conclusion that Europeans are much more liberal on things concerning human sexuality and anatomy. When it arrives here in the states, you can bet a good rack of s that middle/high class America will get their panties in a wad/ fit/ butt hurt, whatever. What would Mexicans say about it? Talking like something George Lopez might say......... "Let her, Let her.......so she could learn right now de chiquita that I aint gonna be buying no formula for her to feed her bebe when she's 14.

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    My niece has started trying to breastfeed her dolls after her little brother was born.

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    Of course your speechless. Have you ever tried to talk while sucking on a ?
    Can't say that I have.

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    I definitely do not think that it is an over-sexualization of young girls. That is such an American at ude, it's so bizarre that we still think of nursing as a shameful, somewhat sexual act (one pregnant friend of mine was told that if she chooses to breastfeed her son that it would be child abuse and she should have her child taken away, because it's too sexual).

    Little girls whose mothers or close relatives breastfeed will hold dolls up to their chests to 'feed' them whether there is a special model of doll or no. I've seen it happen with my friends kids. I think it's great - it's a very natural thing.

    I see over and over on the baby boards (always a hot topic) that women ought to be discreet about breastfeeding or go hide while breastfeeding or cover up, and I just shake my head. I'm not in favor of exhibitionism, but I think that if my child needs to eat, then my child eats. If I'm breastfeeding, that will mean breastfeeding in public - people are welcome not to look if they are terribly offended.

    Another offshoot that is related is extended nursing, which is much more common outside the US. WHO recommends bf'ing until 2 years of age, while most Americans would think that was far too long and a little creepy. I doubt we'll go that long; I'm not sure we'll be able to exclusively breastfeed simply because I'm returning to work so quickly and have no idea how I will produce with a pump.

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    I definitely do not think that it is an over-sexualization of young girls. That is such an American at ude, it's so bizarre that we still think of nursing as a shameful, somewhat sexual act (one pregnant friend of mine was told that if she chooses to breastfeed her son that it would be child abuse and she should have her child taken away, because it's too sexual).

    Little girls whose mothers or close relatives breastfeed will hold dolls up to their chests to 'feed' them whether there is a special model of doll or no. I've seen it happen with my friends kids. I think it's great - it's a very natural thing.

    I see over and over on the baby boards (always a hot topic) that women ought to be discreet about breastfeeding or go hide while breastfeeding or cover up, and I just shake my head. I'm not in favor of exhibitionism, but I think that if my child needs to eat, then my child eats. If I'm breastfeeding, that will mean breastfeeding in public - people are welcome not to look if they are terribly offended.

    Another offshoot that is related is extended nursing, which is much more common outside the US. WHO recommends bf'ing until 2 years of age, while most Americans would think that was far too long and a little creepy. I doubt we'll go that long; I'm not sure we'll be able to exclusively breastfeed simply because I'm returning to work so quickly and have no idea how I will produce with a pump.
    Ya'll girls could slip one out anytime you want to feed your child, it's fine by me. Prerequisites though---> Female has to be hot, and there better be enough milk for everybody.

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    Not a single woman in my family from my grandma on down breast fed. All the non-related women I know didn't do it either, one said it was "nasty." Nourishing your child is nasty?!?! When did we get this perception as a society?
    I breast fed, and I was shocked that my mother-in-law tried to tell me it was better to use a bottle, and my sister-in-law told me it was disgusting and she has 3 kids. Another nice reminder of why I am glad not to be related to those people any more!

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