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    About six months ago I went into my insurance-plan chosen ENT because my sinuses wouldn't unclog. The ENT looked up my nose, said my septum was a little crooked, but not bad and that I should try a nasal steroid. Then he asks, "are you insured?"

    Me: yes

    ENT: Llllllllllets take another look. Well, it's actually fairly crooked. You need a septum re-alignment... and a turbinate reduction. It's outpatient.

    Me: okay, later.

    Needless, I haven't gotten the for-profit surgery yet.

    This is the system we've got. But everything's okay right?

    And before people start complaining about the frivolous nature of this thread- based on the recent posting habits of idiot conservatives, I can only assume that petty anecdotal ing passes for good argumentation around here. Way to lower the bar for rest of us.

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    And before people start complaining about the frivolous nature of this thread- based on the recent posting habits of idiot conservatives, I can only assume that petty anecdotal ing passes for good argumentation around here. Way to lower the bar for rest of us.

    I remember hearing LOL global warming from the conservatives everytime it snowed anywhere this winter, but they have been strangely silent on San Antonio just having the hottest month ever recorded.

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    This is the system we've got. But everything's okay right?
    Well you got to decide what you wanted to do and if you wanted to see a different doctor so yeah it's alright.


    I remember hearing LOL global warming from the conservatives everytime it snowed anywhere this winter, but they have been strangely silent on San Antonio just having the hottest month ever recorded.
    The rest of the conntry that hasn't had a high pressure ridge parked over it is experiencing cooler than normal temps. I'm still LOL at global warming.

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    You really should get a different doctor Bali. Since the practice you're going to is the only one in the country that doesn't ask if you have insurance before you ever see the doctor. Must be something wrong.

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    Well you got to decide what you wanted to do and if you wanted to see a different doctor so yeah it's alright.
    Actually my insurance company chooses which doctors I can see. So I could see another doctor, sure, but I can't choose who that doctor is. In fact Utah's just about only and largest chain of healthcare services also owns my insurance company. But there's no conflict of interest there. Obviously, the private sector isn't out to screw me over in any way.

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    FWIW, I do LOL @ Global Warming...

    But on a somewhat related note, we're going overseas next week, and wife wants to take some tamiflu with her. Doctor agrees and writes prescription for 30 pills. Insurance refuses to pay more than 15. Says we can go back in 4 weeks and get 15 more, despite we're not going to be back then. We explain this to insurance, and they still don't want to pay more than 15...
    So, we're taking what the insurance wants, not what the doctor wants. Kinda got used to it at this point.

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    I remember hearing LOL global warming from the conservatives everytime it snowed anywhere this winter, but they have been strangely silent on San Antonio just having the hottest month ever recorded.
    And furthermore, I haven't seen a new 'global warming is a reality' thread each day that it got up too 100.

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    "we're taking what the insurance wants"

    sure, rationing care, overriding the doctor's authority, for the profit of the insurance company, not for the care for the insured.

    but that's alright with the wrongies, it's how the free market works

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    Actually my insurance company chooses which doctors I can see. So I could see another doctor, sure, but I can't choose who that doctor is. In fact Utah's just about only and largest chain of healthcare services also owns my insurance company. But there's no conflict of interest there. Obviously, the private sector isn't out to screw me over in any way.
    So get a different insurance plan. Maybe get a better plan from a different state...oh wait the government won't allow that.

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    So get a different insurance plan. Maybe get a better plan from a different state...oh wait the government won't allow that.
    My current insurance is not portable. They won't pay for that much better specialist in the state next to mine. I don't think the government asked them to do that...

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    But on a somewhat related note, we're going overseas next week, and wife wants to take some tamiflu with her. Doctor agrees and writes prescription for 30 pills. Insurance refuses to pay more than 15. Says we can go back in 4 weeks and get 15 more, despite we're not going to be back then. We explain this to insurance, and they still don't want to pay more than 15...
    So, we're taking what the insurance wants, not what the doctor wants. Kinda got used to it at this point.
    Man that sucks. I'm sure if the government provided your healthcare you'd get all the preventative tamiflu you wanted for free.

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    I remember hearing LOL global warming from the conservatives everytime it snowed anywhere this winter, but they have been strangely silent on San Antonio just having the hottest month ever recorded.
    It's hot in San Antonio in July and August! My god somebody needs to do something about this. We must stop this climate change! If we don't act now the CO2 might cause the temperature to start going down this fall.

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    Doctors would s ch a zipper on your stomach if each surgery could make a profit for them.

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    It's hot in San Antonio in July and August! My god somebody needs to do something about this. We must stop this climate change! If we don't act now the CO2 might cause the temperature to start going down this fall.
    OMG, it snowed in Portland in the middle of winter. My god, the artic ice and glaciers all over North America melting must be a huge hoax, because it snowed in the middle of winter.

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    OMG, it snowed in Portland in the middle of winter. My god, the artic ice and glaciers all over North America melting must be a huge hoax, because it snowed in the middle of winter.
    OMG! We're all gonna die OMG! We're all gonna die OMG!

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    OMG! We're all gonna die OMG! We're all gonna die OMG!
    You will live as long as you want if you are pious enough a believer of God.

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    Man that sucks. I'm sure if the government provided your healthcare you'd get all the preventative tamiflu you wanted for free.
    Maybe not. But then again, $100 for tamiflu out of pocket is highway robbery.

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    i once thought i had a deviated septum for an entire year, turns out i was just doing a lot of coke

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    My dad used to get a nose bleed every month for years. Doc always thought it was high blood pressure, and medicated accordingly, until he went to see a nose specialist. Quick surgery, and no more bleeding. Moral of the story: always go get a second opinion.

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    Yeah it should be free even though you don't actually need it. Fear should always be alleviated with free stuff. Think of how much your going to spend popping tamiflu all winter long when you get back.

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    Yeah it should be free even though you don't actually need it. Fear should always be alleviated with free stuff. Think of how much your going to spend popping tamiflu all winter long when you get back.
    I don't write prescriptions, the doctor does. For all your ing and moaning about the government telling you what's good or not for you instead of your doctor, I don't see the same outrage towards the private company...

    Who is the hypocrite again?

    And I don't want it free. I'm willing to pay for it if pharma would actually make it affordable like they do pretty much everywhere else in the world, where they don't have a green light to charge whatever they want.

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    I remember hearing LOL global warming from the conservatives everytime it snowed anywhere this winter, but they have been strangely silent on San Antonio just having the hottest month ever recorded.
    Probably because some of us live in other towns and don't spend every waking moment refreshing weather.com for SA's weather, but that's just a guess.

    It's been downright mild up here in Dallas (relative to the last 5-6 summers), but thanks for playing.

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    FWIW, I do LOL @ Global Warming...

    But on a somewhat related note, we're going overseas next week, and wife wants to take some tamiflu with her. Doctor agrees and writes prescription for 30 pills. Insurance refuses to pay more than 15. Says we can go back in 4 weeks and get 15 more, despite we're not going to be back then. We explain this to insurance, and they still don't want to pay more than 15...
    So, we're taking what the insurance wants, not what the doctor wants. Kinda got used to it at this point.
    So you think that will change under Obamacare? Then you'll be getting what some politician's buddy in D.C. wants.

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    I'm willing to pay for it if pharma would actually make it affordable
    5 or 6 bucks a pill isn't affordable for you? Who the is paying for your overseas trip?

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