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    So you think that will change under Obamacare? Then you'll be getting what some politician's buddy in D.C. wants.
    Did I say that? That doesn't mean the current system is not broken.

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    I remember hearing LOL global warming from the conservatives everytime it snowed anywhere this winter, but they have been strangely silent on San Antonio just having the hottest month ever recorded.
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    history has proved what temputures do
    global warmer my foot

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    About six months ago I went into my insurance-plan chosen ENT because my sinuses wouldn't unclog. The ENT looked up my nose, said my septum was a little crooked, but not bad and that I should try a nasal steroid. Then he asks, "are you insured?"

    Me: yes

    ENT: Llllllllllets take another look. Well, it's actually fairly crooked. You need a septum re-alignment... and a turbinate reduction. It's outpatient.

    Me: okay, later.

    Needless, I haven't gotten the for-profit surgery yet.
    And this at ude would be different under a government sponsored insurance plan? Not a chance.

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    5 or 6 bucks a pill isn't affordable for you? Who the is paying for your overseas trip?

    Ever bought a beer at a Spurs game?
    Who cares who pays for the trip? It's actually my parents, but it's besides the point.
    My wife already gets a chunk of her salary taken out so we can pay $25 instead of $100+. And 5 bucks a pill is expensive for a flu pill. There's a reason Roche was forced to relinquish their monopoly on countries like the UK and let other labs make and sell the drug. They didn't even do the R&D on it.

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    My god, the artic ice and glaciers all over North America melting must be a huge hoax
    My God, the artic ice decreased while the antarctic ice increased. Why did mankind do this? Why oh why? God help us!

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    dang that sucks bali

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    Who cares who pays for the trip? It's actually my parents, but it's besides the point.
    Well stop being stupid and ask her parents for a $100 to protect their daughter from the swine flu. Like they're going to say no to that. Jeez.

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    Probably because some of us live in other towns and don't spend every waking moment refreshing weather.com for SA's weather, but that's just a guess.

    It's been downright mild up here in Dallas (relative to the last 5-6 summers), but thanks for playing.
    Get the out of here. The right wingers on this forum point to every snowstorm this country ever has as "proof" there is no such thing global warming, and then they shut the up the second the anecdotal evidence "points" the other way.

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    and then they shut the up the second the anecdotal evidence "points" the other way.
    I haven't shut the up. IT"S ING HOT! It's August in south Texas and it's ing HOT as !

    I say it everyday... it's HOT! Just like I've done every summer since 1976!

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    Well stop being stupid and ask her parents for a $100 to protect their daughter from the swine flu. Like they're going to say no to that. Jeez.
    And they would, but again, besides the point.
    She's already paying an insurance company for that.

    Again, do you let your insurance company tell you what's good for you or your doctor?

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    Get the out of here. The right wingers on this forum point to every snowstorm this country ever has as "proof" there is no such thing global warming, and then they shut the up the second the anecdotal evidence "points" the other way.
    What anecdotal evidence? That it's hot in Texas in the summer? Come on man, you're smarter than that.

    I actually saw the other day on CNN where some dumbass was discussing all the ills facing our nation and said you could tell global warming was hitting us hard due to the drought in the south. Howabout the Dust Bowl days? Was GW ing us then, too?

    Look, you're going to get people ribbing those who are GW nuts about their views. They deserve it. One volcano can go off somewhere in the world and change climates worldwide. happens. It's earth. It's arrogant to assume we can control this planet's climate. It's even more arrogant to advance the notion that ethanol and wind farms can fix all our ills, but that's the basket the Dems and their supporters have put their eggs in when it comes to global warming.

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    LOL, can you imagine another Dust Bowl during these current times.

    The country would go ape ! I seriously believe the people would elect Gore, King Supreme.

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    And they would, but again, besides the point.
    She's already paying an insurance company for that.
    Again, do you let your insurance company tell you what's good for you or your doctor?
    You seem to be missing the point. She's paying insurance to pay for medical treatment. YOU'RE NOT SICK, YOUR WIFE'S NOT SICK! You're just scared you might get sick because you watched too much tv and your insurance company still paid for half of what you wanted.

    And your doctor didn't tell you that you needed to do this. Your wife went and asked him and he said ok and wrote a script. Last time I went to the doctor I asked for 6 different meds that I like to have on hand just in case. Doc gave me scripts for all of them, insurance paid for some of it, I paid the rest. If it's not something dangerous or controlled most doctors will write a script for most any reasonable request.

    I don't let the insurance company or the doctor make my decisions for me.

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    You seem to be missing the point. She's paying insurance to pay for medical treatment. YOU'RE NOT SICK, YOUR WIFE'S NOT SICK! You're just scared you might get sick because you watched too much tv and your insurance company still paid for half of what you wanted.

    And your doctor didn't tell you that you needed to do this. Your wife went and asked him and he said ok and wrote a script. Last time I went to the doctor I asked for 6 different meds that I like to have on hand just in case. Doc gave me scripts for all of them, insurance paid for some of it, I paid the rest. If it's not something dangerous or controlled most doctors will write a script for most any reasonable request.

    I don't let the insurance company or the doctor make my decisions for me.
    It's called preventive care. Should me or my wife or both come back with swine flu, it's going to cost the insurance company a whole lot more than the $60 bucks they saved. It's completely shortsighted on their part. But hey, if that's how they wanna do it, that's just how it's going to be done.

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    It's called preventive care.
    Yeah that's what preventative care is.

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    Yeah that's what preventative care is.
    What do YOU think preventive care is?

    I'm going to a country that declared a sanitary emergency over the swine flu and only resumed sending kids to school last week.

    We'll see. I'm certainly hoping their gamble pays off. I definitely don't wanna get sick nor does my wife. And we obviously will be taking precautions, but there's so much you can do.

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    What anecdotal evidence? That it's hot in Texas in the summer? Come on man, you're smarter than that.

    I actually saw the other day on CNN where some dumbass was discussing all the ills facing our nation and said you could tell global warming was hitting us hard due to the drought in the south. Howabout the Dust Bowl days? Was GW ing us then, too?

    Look, you're going to get people ribbing those who are GW nuts about their views. They deserve it. One volcano can go off somewhere in the world and change climates worldwide. happens. It's earth. It's arrogant to assume we can control this planet's climate. It's even more arrogant to advance the notion that ethanol and wind farms can fix all our ills, but that's the basket the Dems and their supporters have put their eggs in when it comes to global warming.


    Get the out of here Aggie.

    The climate never changed before Bush invented cars.

    Fact.

    PS: It didn't get hot in SA during the summer either.

    Also fact.

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    Biloxi is too hot too.

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    I personally am just glad to know that if we stop driving the climate won't change.

    At least we know there's something we can do about it

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    What do YOU think preventive care is?
    Your right. Giving you a stockpile of a drug you may or may not need that may or may not be effective is good preventative care.

    You're aware that tamiflu resistant H1N1 strains are rapidly becoming the norm right? Better see if your insurance will load you up on Relenza and Rimantidine too. Pesky influenza just won't stop mutating. The government should do something about that, pass a law or something.

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    What anecdotal evidence? That it's hot in Texas in the summer? Come on man, you're smarter than that.
    Hence, giving people crap for using the same kind of anecdotal evidence to completely dismiss global warming over and over (ooh, it snowed in Green Bay during a football game, wow, look at the huge snowstorm to hit Oregon). I figured the sarcasm came off pretty clearly, but maybe I should have written it in blue like timvp intended when he introduced the protocol.

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    Your right. Giving you a stockpile of a drug you may or may not need that may or may not be effective is good preventative care.
    30 pills is a stockpile now? It's a month's dose.

    And now you are basically telling me that you think the insurance co and not the doctor should be determining what will be effective or not... So please, from now on you can refrain from ing about the government telling you what's good for you.

    You're aware that tamiflu resistant H1N1 strains are rapidly becoming the norm right? Better see if your insurance will load you up on Relenza and Rimantidine too. Pesky influenza just won't stop mutating. The government should do something about that, pass a law or something.
    I would rather have something to try that go at it alone. I'm actually hoping there will be H1N1 flu vaccines available when we get there, but it's not a sure thing right now. But if they are, I'll probably get it over there where it's going to be a lot cheaper than getting it here, with or without insurance.

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    I think this thread illustrates one of the reasons why medical costs continue to climb.

    When you buy auto or house insurance you have a deductible, and they don't pay a cent until you are over the deductible. However, with (most?) medical insurance, you have co-pays and freebies from the start, I suppose to encourage preventive medicine and trying to get you to see the doctor before it's too late. However, you get the cases here where patients are encouraged to get expensive treatments, and patients whining once to get doctors to write prescriptions for self-diagnosed conditions, twice when they actually have to pay for it.

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    health care is business, enough said.

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    I know of quotes for treatment of $37K if you don't have insurance, and $137K if you have insurance.

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